HazySaiyan
Banned
I know, I know, but you know what that company can be like. What's wrong with Mania?
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I know, I know, but you know what that company can be like. What's wrong with Mania?
BoboBrazil
Member
I watched those interviews from last night and Bryan blew away Reigns on the mic. He actually sounds natural and not like a robot. He is being screwed.
It's baffling
HeisenbergLannister
Member
I almost want to see Vince go head first until that brick wall, and watch as Roman is booed as WM goes off the air.
Is Vince stubborn enough to have his "baby" WM be hijacked by the fans?
Is Vince stubborn enough to have his "baby" WM be hijacked by the fans?
Heh.....actually there is one guy who even though he's been on TV for only a few weeks, he's been booked in a way that you'd believe he could stand a chance against Brock Lesnar.
Kevin Owens
I know...I know. But look at how he's booked. He wrecks people. He destroys everyone in his path in a manor similar to Brock. He's being booked as TMF in NXT. The only guy on a WWE show other than Brock Lesnar who is booked as TMF.
If Brock was here for another year, and Owens had time to wrap up in NXT and be brought to the main roster in a similar way, Brock vs Owens would be the shit.
Kevin Owens
I know...I know. But look at how he's booked. He wrecks people. He destroys everyone in his path in a manor similar to Brock. He's being booked as TMF in NXT. The only guy on a WWE show other than Brock Lesnar who is booked as TMF.
If Brock was here for another year, and Owens had time to wrap up in NXT and be brought to the main roster in a similar way, Brock vs Owens would be the shit.
You should start looking for words to express how stupid that would be ASAP because that is SO happening
Rusev wins at Fast Lane
Jern Cerna overcome the odds at Mania and win the big one for America, USA USA USA
More casuals watch Mania right? By a lot? Kinda hard to put on a show when the blabbering on the announce team doesn't match what you are watching/hearing.
He doesn't have the fan base like Cena which means you are guaranteed some cheers.
Personally I think Vince is worried.
Jimmy King
Member
I take it that last night's segment means they're moving full steam ahead with Reigns/Lesnar no matter what. They'll turn Reigns heel before they consider replacing him. Bryan yucking it up on Twitter with Ziggler and taking shots at Reigns (assuming that was him) means he must be desperate.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
He needs more than a win, he needs good follow-up. Tensai beat Cena and look where that went.
Reigns got that Wrestlemania win... too bad Rollins will cash it in the night after. And get it. Reigns will finally get his dynasty reign in Summer Slam!
And I think Rusev beats Cena. For the fact that WWE's brand new superhero is going to be crowned. So why have two superheroes go over on the big event?
And I think Rusev beats Cena. For the fact that WWE's brand new superhero is going to be crowned. So why have two superheroes go over on the big event?
bitesnintendog
Member
WWE could probably benefit by having a show like last nights Raw as a thing on their Network. I think they'd half ass it after the second episode but in a world where they actually care about their programming it would go a long ways in helping people's characters and programs get over.
Undertaker is 49
Sting is 55
This man is 58.
DDP Yoga, but it probably also helps that he wasn't a full time wrestler until he was 35 and only had about a 8 year career as a full time wrestler while Sting and Undertaker both did over 20 years as full time wrestlers.
That's why you don't put them side by side, or face to face, you do it like this:
And make the size difference part of the story.
Vince sees Reigns as the next guy. They wouldn't screw him out of his first title reign. If anything, Rollins is going to fail the cash in.
I know some fans are actually worried that D. Bry can't take the punishment Brock is gonna give him. That he's gonna fuck up his neck. It's not like Cena's neck is in great shape either.
Personally I am not concerned about the believability aspect but some people here see it as a problem.
By that logic Hogan wouldn't look like a threat against Andre though.
David vs Goliath is probably the most common and successful wrestling story.
HazySaiyan
Banned
What are you talking about? Ziggler challenged Bryan to a Wrestlemania match on twitter and Bryan replied to him back that he is in.
I don't think that match will happen though.
The problem isn't Fastlane. It's NXT Takeover. I need to watch that...
You do realise, if Vince ever saw this he'd have Reigns dancing with whatever the equivalent of Barney The Big Fucking Dinosaur in a heartbeat...
Dat rematch clause. But is Brock available?
HazySaiyan
Banned
I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him get a world title shot before the year is out.
FlammableD
Banned
"But we did put the underdog returning from an injury over god dammit!"
This should be an IC title match. Have them steal the show.
I think this is partially a function of Brock being amazing and partially a function of them booking only like one or two guys to actually matter. Essentially, if you weren't wrestling on WWE PPV cards in 2006, you suck. That's a terrible place to be, especially considering all the talent the WWE has right now. No one that Brock hasn't already beaten has the credibility to beat him.
This is a problem they've had for awhile, and it's why people were upset about Twice in a Lifetime, despite it being "good for business". There's been this cutoff point for talent since Cena became the guy, where no one that wasn't around then has been able to move into a main event slot for an extended period of time. Now that they've had Brock beat Cena, HHH, and Taker to send a message about how dominant he is, they have literally no one that's believable to put up against a man who is probably either the 1st or 2nd most legitimate athlete that has ever worked for the company. The only exception in my eyes is Orton, who is also now part time.
Probably not. I believe they used up his last PPV date that wasn't the Rumble and Mania on that horrible Night of Champions match against Cena.
The irony there is that Bryan not being "credible" would be perfect for the story of the underdog going against the beast. It wouldn't be a problem.
And, as I said before, he also has tons of accomplishments already so when he won (after getting the shit kicked out of him) it wouldn't look out of place.
Might I suggest to you a thesaurus fine sir?
FlammableD
Banned
He was in the ad for Fast Lane, not that that means anything.
UberTag
Member
Why would there be rewrites? Why should someone be fired?
This is what they've had planned forever.
They WANT Reigns to be hated. Because Cena is hated. And Reigns is the new Cena.
Except he can't work nearly as good a match as Cena. Perhaps... in time... he will.
But none of that matters now. The most legit wrestler they've had (probably ever) is about to get fed to him.
Here's what I've learned so far
• Freebirds were surprisingly over as faces
• Steve Simpson is pretty good. I'm surprised he didn't go further. He's got a thick as fuck accent though.
• Chris Adams. I don't get it. I don't get why people talk so highly of him.
• Kerry's not bad on commentary after a while. 'Son of a gun! Son of a gun!'
• Matt Borne's promos are pretty rough pre-Doink
• Ted Arcidi is still alive. And pretty good.
• Rick Rude was booked stronk. Held two of their titles at once.
• I like Skip Young
• I like Al Perez too
• Andre is so over everywhere, but he's so over in Texas. He gets huge reactions to everything he does in WCCW.
• The Spoiler is sweet
• Percy Pringle's face is still creepy
• Love Bill Mercer
• Freebirds were surprisingly over as faces
• Steve Simpson is pretty good. I'm surprised he didn't go further. He's got a thick as fuck accent though.
• Chris Adams. I don't get it. I don't get why people talk so highly of him.
• Kerry's not bad on commentary after a while. 'Son of a gun! Son of a gun!'
• Matt Borne's promos are pretty rough pre-Doink
• Ted Arcidi is still alive. And pretty good.
• Rick Rude was booked stronk. Held two of their titles at once.
• I like Skip Young
• I like Al Perez too
• Andre is so over everywhere, but he's so over in Texas. He gets huge reactions to everything he does in WCCW.
• The Spoiler is sweet
• Percy Pringle's face is still creepy
• Love Bill Mercer
Jimmy King
Member
In retrospect, once they got news of Bryan's return they should have called off the triple threat (which was amazing, no doubt) and had the Bryan/Lesnar match. Cena could've entered the Rumble, been eliminated last by Reigns and that probably would have at least muffled any negativity towards him.
*I should say that's if they were dead set on Reigns, which they shouldn't be in the first place, but I'm trying to meet them half-way here.
*I should say that's if they were dead set on Reigns, which they shouldn't be in the first place, but I'm trying to meet them half-way here.
Eh, I'm not that high on Ziggler. I feel he's ingenuine. Like a debuting blue chipper Rocky Maivia. Even Rock said himself he wasn't genuine when he started out and was thankful he was given 30 seconds of promo time to bring out his genuine self. Ziggler has been that on that loop for a while, I think.
Ziggler and Bryan could have a good match at Mania, who knows. Personally, I'd rather see Bryan finally get a win against Bray Wyatt after a hard fought match up. He could then start on his road to the World title again or something.
Ziggler and Bryan could have a good match at Mania, who knows. Personally, I'd rather see Bryan finally get a win against Bray Wyatt after a hard fought match up. He could then start on his road to the World title again or something.
UberTag
Member
That's the absolute last thing Vince McMahon wants.
Host Samurai
Member
So Bryan can job again?
And Brock doesn't seem to give any fucks. I don't see him as a guy that won't put someone over. Stone Cold, HHH, HBK, Bret or any of the old school guys would probbaly have been NOPE.
Could be wrong.
Jimmy King
Member
what
So the brand split idea is pretty much dead I'm guessing.
There was an idea that Smackdown would be Bryan's show, but it probably should be Reigns' show since it's easier to hide his flaws on a taped show.
So people can get the match they actually want to see and it hopefully pacifies the crowd at Mania a little bit?
Let's face it, the only way they would have given us Brock vs Bryan at Mania is if Brock agreed to stay another year. At which point they would have had Brock beat Bryan anyway.
There was an idea that Smackdown would be Bryan's show, but it probably should be Reigns' show since it's easier to hide his flaws on a taped show.
So people can get the match they actually want to see and it hopefully pacifies the crowd at Mania a little bit?
Let's face it, the only way they would have given us Brock vs Bryan at Mania is if Brock agreed to stay another year. At which point they would have had Brock beat Bryan anyway.
Brand split has been dead for years and I don't think anyone really misses it
it was a mess at the end but the first couple of years were pretty great, because Heyman was in charge of Smackdown and it was the best show
Kacho
Gold Member
Yep. I hated the brand split. I'm down for Smackdown being elevated though. I would be more inclined to watch it every week if wasn't so obviously the B show for lesser talent.