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January Wrasslin' |OT2| Stop watching this garbage and get HBO Go
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One of the biggest Reigns problems is that he doesn't have a story.
Winning the Rumble isn't, in and out of itself, a story. Reigns had no story coming in the Rumble and now the only thing he has is "I want to be champion" and that, just that, isn't really enough.
Reings looks cool and has potential but he is being hot shoted to the main event of Mania and there's no way around that. It's not even his fault, they are just handling him really poorly.
Winning the Rumble isn't, in and out of itself, a story. Reigns had no story coming in the Rumble and now the only thing he has is "I want to be champion" and that, just that, isn't really enough.
Reings looks cool and has potential but he is being hot shoted to the main event of Mania and there's no way around that. It's not even his fault, they are just handling him really poorly.
Batista's build was really great. They really should've just copied it with Reigns and now things would be making a ton more sense. Especially since Reigns would be with the authority so he would have a reason to be at odds with Lesnar.
The Elite
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Quality list.
I was talking with my friend about this yesterday. They've created no narrative arc for why we would want to cheer for Reigns going into the Rumble or into Mania to fight for the championship. The reason so many people wanted Bryan to win is that he just happened to have an interesting narrative setup due to his circumstances. He was champ. He was on top of the world. Then he lost it all due to an injury. It's natural to want to see him succeed and recapture the glory he had one year ago. The David vs. Goliath story only helps things.
Reigns really has nothing. If Rollins had won the championship, there would be something to work with at least. The last shot could have been Rollins coming out and staring down new Rumble winner Reigns. That would have been... something.
UberTag
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If you're suggesting he should look into color commentary, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Dick Justice
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I still remember that one promo between HHH, Orton and someone else (probably Batista) where they said "Roman Reigns" every third or fourth word. Like they were trying as hard as possible to drive this name into the skulls of everyone watching. He'll probably just end up being another Sheamus or Del Rio, pushed way too fast without being given the chance to actually work on his skills and getting over organically. Shit, just look at what they did to Ryback.
Ryback, Big Show and William Regal on commentary, with Vince placed in a straitjacket and kept as far away from the headset as possible. Let's do this shit.
I've said it before, I've never liked Reigns, right back to FCW days. So that part does nothing for me. I liked the Shield, I never liked Reigns himself, and I always saw exactly where they were going with him. I was bored of his "LOLSPEARIWIN" by the start of 2013.
Ambrose was the guy to go with. There's no excuse there, he could talk, he could wrestle, he's tall, he has a great look, he's not a troublemaker, he's very, very different from Cena. Yet he was booked to be a loser for no reason of his. If that doesn't tell you they already made up their mind based on some dumbass view of "well he looks like this so he should be a star" and their performance isn't taken into account, nothing will.
I'd be okay with the story simply being Reigns won the Rumble so now he's about to fight Lesnar. Because I'm 100% cool with storylines that are simply two people who want to be the best. The real problem isn't that Roman doesn't have a story, it's that he doesn't have a character.
Dick Justice
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Who's "we"? Ambrose and Rollins were always the standouts of The Shield for me, there were some moments were I enjoyed Reigns' work, and that was mainly during matches that were already awesome to begin with, like the EC match against the Wyatts. Personally I wasn't a fan of how they were already blatantly trying to place the spotlight squarely on Reigns.
What chances has he had outside the ADR/Ziggler feud that resulted up in ending too early due to Jack Swagger being careless with a ladder? He was never properly pushed ahead of anything midcard, aside from a rare B-PPV where he could look good, but they follow it up with absolutely nothing.
Using the excuses of social media and going to comedy shows is lame. They never want to push him above anywhere they originally had. But certain guys get way more opportunities, whether due to a certain higher up liking him or his name. Note: a proper reason to de-push is someone like Swagger; remember when he won the EC match above guys like Kane, Orton, Henry, Bryan, and Jericho, but eventually lost to ADR at 'Mania because he was arrested prior to it. Not some frivolously stuff like social media.
UberTag
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I'll actually disagree with that last point.
He DOES have a character.
His character is that he's the next John Cena and he was born into this role because he's related to a bunch of other Samoans.
And you can bet that Heyman will do his damnedest to develop that into even more of a story heading into their Mania match even if it's one he has to tell entirely himself.
The benefit with Paul is that he'll be given the freedom and flexibility to do just that while Roman is effectively only trusted to regurgitate terrible lines Vince writes for him.
But Cena actually has some defining characteristics. Roman really doesn't.
If I went to twitter to complain about my place in the company I work for, and all of my co-workers and bosses had access to this, I'd fully expect to be treated differently by my bosses and some of my co-workers. It's the same principle.
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Sounds like Suguira is a lock!!
Only thing I noticed was his harmless jabs at Cena and Miz, the characters they play. Nothing is personal, which is where it would be if you did so in a normal workplace. It is just a lame excuse to say "See? This is why he's never pushed!". We have seen guys getting arrested, having terrible backstage attitude problems, caught with weed, etc. and their run continues.
They want him right where he's always been. Just like Reigns is heading to Cena 2.0 despite there being no rhyme or reason other than just because.
Masquerader
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I agree entirely, but I love how Cena will be mainly looked back upon fondly due to how awful Reigns is.
Exactly. At least there would be a story. A reason for us to care. Currently there isn't. And I'm sure they'll create something but it doesn't feel natural at all. And trying to make the Authority "hate him" is just a lazy way to fit a narrative there.
They didn't chose Reigns because they have a good story to tell, an interesting idea in mind or because he was chosen be fans. They picked him because he looks good and that's a big reason why it's hard to buy any of it.
Yeah, I remember those times. How they focused on Reigns during the Shield feud when he had done nothing the other two hadn't done. But of course "Reigns, Reigns, Reigns". Just way too forced.
StevieWhite
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On behalf of Philadelphia, we decline your apology. I don't think you are sorry at all.
StevieWhite
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Roman is on the Sam Roberts podcast this week. It definitely reinforces the presumption that they should just let him be himself.
Marvel
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STF part was good, rest I didn't find funny.
FlammableD
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Is 10,000 normally the OT cutoff? I never pay attention
No. Double it, it's 20,000 posts.
EDIT: Since we're close to Feb, who wants to create the REAL Feb thread in a few days?
Marvel
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Sam better not judge him as only wrestlers may judge Roman. And all wrestlers love Roman Reigns.
Hey, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, at least they're actually doing something interesting, instead of just a generic reboot a la Total Recall and Robocop.
Besides, I loved Bridesmaids, so this might actually be pretty funny.
I'm one of those people who thinks I don't really have an accent but then I catch myself dropping "ya-know" instead of "you know" and "yah" instead of "yeah" occasionally (from Wisconsin).
I just think the movie is going to fall apart without the original cast. Murray/Akroyd/Ramis/Hudson carried that movie.
I just think the movie is going to fall apart without the original cast. Murray/Akroyd/Ramis/Hudson carried that movie.
"The company's gonna do what they wanna do, the fans are gonna do what they wanna do, and at the end of the day... hopefully I'm just a guy getting rich."
They ain't ready for Dickbag Roman Reigns.
lovely ladies
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If the movie's good, it'll be successful. I don't think the older movies will affect it that much, willing to bet a lot of kids haven't even seen it and think of it as some old geezer shit.
That's not dickbag, I respect that. I'd love that kind of attitude.
Just need Regal on colour pointing out to us that the winner of the fight gets a larger share of the purse.
So let's say Brock does a dream match tour after Wrestlemania where he faces one guy a month for five months? Who would you guys choose to have him face?
I'd go with:
Randy Orton
Cesaro
Daniel Bryan
Rusev
Bray Wyatt
I'm going to cheat my own list and add Ambrose and Harper as honorable mentions.
I'd go with:
Randy Orton
Cesaro
Daniel Bryan
Rusev
Bray Wyatt
I'm going to cheat my own list and add Ambrose and Harper as honorable mentions.
Arrowgigantic
Member
A few of my younger cousins saw Ghostbusters for the first time sometime last summer and loved it. Outside of one or two flimsy special effects, the original Ghostbusters holds up to the test of time pretty well. It doesn't rely on too many things that would date it or anything.
its a fake saliva capsule, ya mark