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January Wrasslin' |OT2| Stop watching this garbage and get HBO Go
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avengers23
Banned
That's a lot of matches over 4 shows (7/20 in Sapporo, 8/14, 8/15, and 8/16 at Sumo Hall).
Wade Keller during his podcast with Stone Cold mentioned that he talked to people close to Reigns and they said he's acting like he's already been given the keys to the kingdom and he doesn't have to worry about anything.
This really feels like Orton all over again.
New day has been setting up for a heel turn.
The fans getting tired of it only helps.
First they mention in their opening blurb that they stay positive because if they don't then the angry side gets out, and then people get hurt.
Now the non Kofi and Big E guy has been cheapshotting outside of the ring.
It will progress. The question is will it be all three or will they do the whole cliche he is bad, the others do not agree and then either Kofi or Big E turn on the other and go with him.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I wonder how many guys on the roster would benefit from a strongly booked junior/cruiser-weight division.
¡HarlequinPanic!
Member
I'm hoping it doesn't make the singles card too narrow. I guess we'll see what they come up with.
Either way, KES gonna mop up all these scrubs and reclaim what's rightfully theirs.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
That would still be a really good spot for him now, especially since they need fresh heels. It would also put a younger, homegrown guy into the upper mid card and show that NXT works.
Jimmy King
Member
Haha I hope he gets all that he deserves.
Orton was pushed because Lesnar left in the way that he did.
And at least Orton had a heel gimmick of killing fan favorites. Orton's issues had more to do with him being an extreme jerk. Reigns at least stood with Rollins and Ambrose to prevent the Shield from breaking up in a way that would have killed their careers.
This Reigns interview man. He knew what was going to happen in Philly. It really sounds like the people running the company are just so out of touch.
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sam-roberts-wrestling-podcast/e/36776291?autoplay=true
If you guys haven't listened to Austin's Rumble review
http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show-Clean
It's an interesting listen, Austin also draws the parallels to Reigns and Rocky Maivia. They talk about the Rumble in-depth, how poorly booked it was, and the post-show interview where you can tell Austin lost a lot of faith in Reigns for that promo.
http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show-Clean
It's an interesting listen, Austin also draws the parallels to Reigns and Rocky Maivia. They talk about the Rumble in-depth, how poorly booked it was, and the post-show interview where you can tell Austin lost a lot of faith in Reigns for that promo.
Big E should be given some mic time and freedom to just be his silly self. He is a funny dude and they should capitalize on that.
He said that? What an ass. Makes it hard to want to see him succeed. And sure, he might get rich, but not on my money.
He said that? What an ass. Makes it hard to want to see him succeed. And sure, he might get rich, but not on my money.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
gonna give it a listen later
Jimmy King
Member
Balee dat.
¡HarlequinPanic!;149521004 said:
Well I said a long while back Reigns didn't seem like the next Cena, he seemed like the next Orton. Expected to be the face of the company, the perfect look and girls like him, but lacking a piece of the puzzle and ultimately a disappointment to WWE even if he is still a success, just below the number one spot he was expect to reach.
I think this is why it's a terrible idea to pick a young inexperienced guy solely for his look and family name, and tell him he's automatically the future of the company and give him the megapush. Orton got a bighead out of it, Reigns may be the same way.
If nothing else, Cena does appear to be a good guy, far more than a guy in his position would be expected to be.
Well, I wanted to like the guy. Not so sure anymore if that's how he really is.
avengers23
Banned
Then go home and be a family man instead of shitting up the program.
If I had a dollar for every time I've read "WWE should push the cruiserweights" and/or "turn Eugene heel," I'd have enough to fund at least a full year's subscription to both NJPW World and the WWE Network.
StevieWhite
Member
Did he actually say that? unless my memory fails me, that's twisting his sentiments a bit.
I don't hate Cena as much as most fans, probably because I just started to watch WWE again in 2012 after 6 years of stopping. So I'm not tried of him, but man how many times does Orton need to carry his ass in a match. O yeah I don't know how much Gaf loves CM Punk of not but I don't and I think he's a self-centered douchbag TBH
Yeah I heard it yesterday, it's good. Both of them are pretty much spot on with the criticism of Reigns, the Rumble and Vince. Keller answers a question of whether this backlash will be good for Reigns as there would never have been a Rock without Rocky Maivia, by saying that Rocky Maivia didn't main event Wrestlemania and win the WWF title.
Never mind that that's the Rock, not everyone is going to have his hidden charisma.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
His interview with HHH is gonna be something, alright.
I don't think any Punk fans would disagree.
Dick Justice
Banned
Had no idea that Vince wanted to push Big E, while Haitch wanted Reigns instead.
Reigns hears voices in his head, they council him, they understand, they talk to him.
sf2fanatic
Member
Half
Also on a side note. You think having the rumble in a different town Rome gets all them boos?
Now that Stro isn't around to counteract what I say I do have to admit that I like Mark Madden's heel commentary most of the time. It's only awful when Mike Tenay was also in the booth because those two fought like Heel Cole and King after Cole interfered in the title match.
British Monsoon
Member
They haven't announced the full G1 tour yet, but it'll be more than 4 shows - Sapporo is the opener, so they'll have 28 days to fit in the shows they need. Also, with more wrestlers and more blocks, it'll probably work out so each guy gets more than one day off from the tour.
<Vince> All Roman Reigns main evented PPVs will now be in Corpus Christi, Texas!
Rocky Maivia was really rough. The blandest baby face ever. Reigns destroys him already from the presentation side of things.
Vince is the reason that Big Slow and Kane are still in your face week after week, and Mark Henry would be too if Vince had his way if Henry did not get injured every time he left his feet.
Shield were pretty much over day 1 really. This is like the opposite.
British Monsoon
Member
I hear good things about Inspire Pro, going to check them out in the sale. Is that the AAW Tyler Black compilation? I'd probably skip it, the ROH produced one is a lot better. Some other promotions worth checking out; AAW, AIW, Battlewar, Beyond, ICW, SMASH, wXw
In the context of the interview; he's talking about how he has to feed his family (since they were at poverty levels before he went into WWE), and I am perfectly fine with wrestlers using their leverage against Vince (CM Punk, Lesnar, etc) considering how hard Vince has screwed wrestlers for decades...but this shift is waaaay too sudden. I smell epic heel turn. If he had superman punched Rock at the end of the RR - he would have become the #1 heel in the company in that single instance.
Big E is one of the most underutilized wrestlers in terms of personality. Him and AJ actually made an awesome duo; with AJ's legit wackiness and Big E's complete lack of shame & zen-like approach - out of the ring stuff was pretty awesome.
I have to think they're intending for nuclear heat for Reigns - they need a major heel pronto, and faces challenging a heel champ is a much easier storyline to pull for the next year due to the number of top tier faces vs top tier heels.
WM 32 will be face Bryan vs heel Reigns for the belt, I think.
They would fuck it up like any title. I've mentioned this before but if you defend a belt for a certain time you should be able to trade it in for a PPV title shot. You have to give up the belt and a tournament it created to decide the next one who holds the belt.
This way an hour 2 match on Raw could have championship implications.
Plus you make it so it doesn't seem like a stretch that a guy like Tyson Kidd could face Brock Lesnar.
BoboBrazil
Member
They can fuck off for making the cast women.
Maybe in the Shield, sure, all three members were cool, even when the Shield was face. But now he's dropping Looney Tunes promos and Cena-like "You have the right to boo me or cheer me" lines.
They've mucked it up fast.
In fact the only main eventer I can think of from the last twenty years who might even contend with The Rock for worst first phase of their career would probably be Lionheart Hockey Loving Face Chris Jericho in WCW. He had nothing going on so much so that they gave him Teddy Long as a manager.
Fans HATED Rocky being forced upon them. Even worse Rock didn't even have a good look back then. Meanwhile the Shield had that NWO mystique and Reigns has looked good since day one. It took the Rock forever to get over while Reigns was over from day one. The backlash probably won't be as high. Then again, the Rock could actually wrestle and had the benefit of some really strong programs for the second, organic push. Reigns needs those Shamrock and HHH type feuds but I don't think he can get them as a face.
That's what I'm saying is Rocky Maivia is nowhere close to what The Rock was. He started with no character/'im a good guy!' and did a complete 180. Roman Reigns already has his 'cool guy' character and look. Even if they change it up, I can't imagine it being that much different. He'll still probably wear mostly black and still wear some kind of shirt to cover his flab. And it's not working. I do think the Luger comparison is more apt, but as much as I hate Luger, Luger at least had some great singles matches under his belt before his big push. And he had a really stand-out look for 1993 WWF.
It's crazy to see how in 90s they developed so quick. I watch the Rumble and Austin come out as the "Ringmaster". Then next year he is Stone Cold I'm like WTF
lovely ladies
Member
They can't turn him heel and sell shirts like this
This is what happens when a marketing department and a boardroom pushes a guy.
Isn't the ability to cut a promo and carry a match kinda important for a heel though? Like Reigns got over by wrestling in short bursts for the Shield but he looks pretty terrible when he's used up his 3 moves.
Fixed that a bit.They can't sell shirts like this
This is what happens when a marketing department and a boardroom pushes a guy.