I posted it earlier today, don't mess with me i'll fight you
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January Wrasslin' |OT2| Stop watching this garbage and get HBO Go
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I posted it earlier today, don't mess with me i'll fight you
Big E has a ton of potential and already has a lot of charisma but he's dreadfully boring between these four ropes. I watched just about all of his matches from his IC reign and by the end I could call every spot before it happened. Hopefully ND hurries up and turns and he can add some heel moves to his arsenal.
The Breeze avatars are from the Avatar Rumble. They certainly pretty up the thread don't they.
I think Bryan looks stupid, but I think the solution would be:
1) Staying face? Shave clean (or trim that bitch significantly), continue with this psuedo-Samurai hair thing.
2) Turn heel? Shave head (or trim etc.), continue with crazy hobo beard.
Second one strays into the Wyatt Family lane but it works though.
I really love Bray Wyatt's look. I don't think I've ever talked about it. Like the entrance attire with the fedora and hawaiin shirt is whatever but the sleeveless shirt with the sweats/different colored pants? Put that together with the tattoos and the beard, and I think he pulls it off way better than I ever would have thought he would.
The 'bloody' tattoo really helps.
The 'bloody' tattoo really helps.
Roland_Gunner
Member
My first show was roughly that same time. Dad took me to see a WCCW house show. It was awesome to see a couple of the von Erichs live. Ultimate Warrior also worked as the Dingo Warrior so I was amazed when he turned up in WWE a year or two later. Was always a big fan of his as a kid because of that.
Jimmy King
Member
I love his look too, which is why I wish he'd shut the fuck up. He really doesn't need to say much at all since his entrance/look speaks for him.
Jericho told a story in his book about Big Show being irate that Khlai stole his chest slap move done in the corner of the ring.
"that's my fucking spot!" They literally got into a fight.
He seemed pretty ok hijacking D. Bray's gimmick though. To be fair probbaly didn't have a choice.
bitesnintendog
Member
While I watched a lot of wrestling on tv for years, I didn't start attending shows until 2004 or so. It was a Smackdown taping after Wrestlemania 20. Featured JBL kicking out illegals at the border, John Cena vs one of the Bashams, Chavo vs Jackie for the cruiser weight title, the Undertaker vs the FBI, and Rey and RVD vs the Dudley Boys.
I went to 2 other WWE TV tapings after that but besides a 30 minute Rey vs Eddie match I felt they were pretty underwhelming.
He had some good matches with Rusev. A lot of that is probably due to Rusev, but Big E can have good matches with the right opponents. He has a good mix of power and speed so if he could get some confidence and some longer matches he could probably have a good showcase.
But I like his voice too. And his lariats.
I like Bray a lot. I wish he had better feud material. I'd have much rather seen Dutty write an Ambrose/Bray feud.
Dude stole Kaz Hayashi's move anyways
blackaroni
Member
Agreed. He doesn't have much to steal from, so let him have his move.
Now I wish he would just go away. Forever.
Kiever Sher
Member
Classic Observer tidbit
This fed had so many great ideas, wonder why they never took Vince out.
This fed had so many great ideas, wonder why they never took Vince out.
Arrowgigantic
Member
But I just posted it now, that means I'm the new champ.
TimeEffect
Member
He's already fucked this up by appearing to do advertisements for the Network, video game, Make a Wish...
The only one who still has the best presence is Luke Harper, but they squander him by not giving the guy anything.
It's so frustrating seeing so many good talents age and get old while WWE has no clue what to do with them
I'd much rather Bray turn pseudo face to take down the authority for Rumble, while Harper gets to take on Undertaker. I can't see Bray and Undertaker working as good as Harper and Taker.
anybody know from what game is the music in the intro?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
People don't even shush for the big show corner chop anymore
Jimmy King
Member
Oh, for sure. Even when he speaks though, I think less is more. But in an era with so few capable people on the mic I think he's probably asked to do more than he should.
Because he's a heel now. They only did it when he was face.
>Show looks like a stupid jackass.
Even Nash and Sid had corner spots similar to this. He needs to retire.
So last month?
I don't think that there's been anything official for upcoming PPVs, but at least they have the show on AXS now w/ english commentary! If you enjoy WK9, which you probably will, be sure to check it out.
Jimmy King
Member
That's WWE in 2015 though. Something works? Run it into the ground.
Bray should have been the one to take the Streak last year. Would have done wonders.
Yeah, Bray vs Taker is one year too late. Brock vs Taker should have never happened.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
fixed
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
From where I sit I don't see any reason why Show would even want to retire. He too big to be required to do particularly dangerous spots and they keep letting be involved in the main storyline.
It's the same reason Kane is still around. Being reasonably reliable and well-liked helps a lot in keeping you employed.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
I've reached my moment of acceptance with Roman now. What's done is done and I hope all the success for him. Better to wish the best for someone than failure. So let's give Roman a chance here so we can have TWO new fresh stars instead of just one in Bryan.
Jimmy King
Member
way to give in to terrorism
blackaroni
Member
Nope. Bryan doesn't need any of that shit.
funkystudent
Member
So... how soon do you think before WWE goes full PR mode and pushes a sympathy Make a Wish kid story with Roman to the mainstream media?
Before or after Fast Lane?
Before or after Fast Lane?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If they want him to get over they need to work on his wrestling, not his mic skills. Rollins got over with a bunch of people who tuned in just for RR and he didn't even say a word the entire time other than in a stupid commercial for the iPad game. In the end, all wrestling storylines are shitty soap opera, particularly if you divorce them from the performance art.
First PPV was Wrestlemania 2.
First live event was a house show , NWA with The Road Warriors and Midnight Express, Rock and Roll Express and the Fantastics. Nikita Koloff against someone. Boogie Woogie man Jimmy Valient and the Cuban Assassin.
Main event was a cage match with Kevin Sullivan against..I want to say Dusty.
but is Big Show even reliable or well liked? he's still lazy and dangerous and by all accounts he's also a fucking prick
Masquerader
Member
Bray's quite astonishing to watch live. Gives me a 'It's still real to me, dammit!' moment with how frighteningly realistic and painful his moves seem. It doesn't come across as well on TV. Ah, well. At least he's already good in basically every aspect. I sure hope he gets the chance to refine everythung with experience, rather than WWE ruining it before it gets REALLY good.
One thing I always liked about WCW, and it kind of went away in the Russo years despite it being his goal to do it even better, and I give him credit for trying.
Everybody had a spot. Everybody felt like they got enough tv time, enough heat, it felt very, very organized. This is the cruiserweight title, here is the champion, here are the contenders. You didn't see rankings, but you could watch Nitro and kind of figure it out. I was like 8 years old and could figure out, 'Ok, Rey has the title. Psicosis and Ultimo Dragon have been winning a good bit in tag matches and non-cruiserweight matches. They're probably the next contenders.' Not 'ok this guy is getting pushed he's getting a title shot' using kayfabe and thinking about it like it was a sport.
And you had the mentality, 'ok TV champion is below US champion. These are the TV guys, sometimes you can move up to US and if you win a lot and do well, you might do the WCW title.' The TV champion still felt like a big deal because he was still a champion. And like the IC title of yore, you knew it meant there was a chance to have them move on to do greater things. Everyone felt bracketed. You had a nice shot of what your goal was for your favorite guy to be THE champion. Maybe TV title was one title too many, but WCW had such a huge roster that they probably needed that. And it was nice because some of the cruiserweight guys were believeable when it came to a lower tier 'heavyweight' title like the TV. A guy like Finaly could be TV champion, and you wouldn't have any trouble believing it, and it would raise his status. Raven being US champion made Raven look like a big deal because it was a title that guys like DDP and Goldberg wanted or had. 'The rub' if you weel.
WWE went back to Golden Era booking of 'ok main title is champion(usually the same guy who you put on all the posters a la Hogan or Cena) and villain of the week.' But Golden Era had the strongest 'midcard' booking EVER. And it always meant you were just a step or two away from Hogan. WWE doesn't do that. I don't even know who the midcard champion 'brackets' are now. And Attitude Era had the strong main event scene, but everything below it was a complete clusterfuck.
Everybody had a spot. Everybody felt like they got enough tv time, enough heat, it felt very, very organized. This is the cruiserweight title, here is the champion, here are the contenders. You didn't see rankings, but you could watch Nitro and kind of figure it out. I was like 8 years old and could figure out, 'Ok, Rey has the title. Psicosis and Ultimo Dragon have been winning a good bit in tag matches and non-cruiserweight matches. They're probably the next contenders.' Not 'ok this guy is getting pushed he's getting a title shot' using kayfabe and thinking about it like it was a sport.
And you had the mentality, 'ok TV champion is below US champion. These are the TV guys, sometimes you can move up to US and if you win a lot and do well, you might do the WCW title.' The TV champion still felt like a big deal because he was still a champion. And like the IC title of yore, you knew it meant there was a chance to have them move on to do greater things. Everyone felt bracketed. You had a nice shot of what your goal was for your favorite guy to be THE champion. Maybe TV title was one title too many, but WCW had such a huge roster that they probably needed that. And it was nice because some of the cruiserweight guys were believeable when it came to a lower tier 'heavyweight' title like the TV. A guy like Finaly could be TV champion, and you wouldn't have any trouble believing it, and it would raise his status. Raven being US champion made Raven look like a big deal because it was a title that guys like DDP and Goldberg wanted or had. 'The rub' if you weel.
WWE went back to Golden Era booking of 'ok main title is champion(usually the same guy who you put on all the posters a la Hogan or Cena) and villain of the week.' But Golden Era had the strongest 'midcard' booking EVER. And it always meant you were just a step or two away from Hogan. WWE doesn't do that. I don't even know who the midcard champion 'brackets' are now. And Attitude Era had the strong main event scene, but everything below it was a complete clusterfuck.
I never understand the complaints about Bray doing events and signings. He's not the Undertaker. He's a fucking cult leader. He wants to appear human, he wants people to come to his signings, he wants 'fans' because 'fans' are more followers. It's ingenius and it's the perfect gimmick to work with Cena because they can, and have, play thee angle that Bray is brainwashing the fans. It's the only gimmick that has ever made Cena being booed make sense.
Probably before assuming the crowd lays it on him Thursday
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Before. I want Big Show to chokeslam a fake cancer patient through the ring, equipment flying everywhere.
Marvel
could never
Yup his moveset is nice, his suplex throw is cool too. There was this great 'Taker like spot he did in FCW I think where he got chopped in the chest, threw his head back and laughed then just straight up booted the guy in the face. Was awesome.
More of that "I'm dead, so what ya got?" shit in his matches please.
¡HarlequinPanic!
Member
more bray is best for business. dean feud was pretty great, want to see him having more singles feuds without the family.