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[Cagey]

The good thing about Cena's fans is they don't sh*t on other Superstar's matches or big moments.

I think bean is booked as a WrassleGAF heel, but he comes off as a face to me.

That beings said, Royal Rumble was bullshit.

It's the adult version of Cena, where Cena defines Good and to his young fans, anyone who goes against Cena (no matter alignment) must be Not Good.

 

[kiguel182]

I actually like Daniel Bryan, I just find it irritating how much certain segments of his fanbase don't give a shit about anything other than Bryan and Bryan fantasy-booking.

Yeah, fuck those people that want the wrestlers they like to succeed. Bunch of millennials.

 

[jmdajr]

False. Kofi Kingston (and New Day) always deserve to be booed. Unless they turn into monster heels. Then the roof needs to blow off when they come out.

Did you lose a bet?

 

[Sephzilla]

Cena going over Bryan at WrestleMania 31 would only result in the fans shitting on Brock/Roman even harder.

 

[Perspicacity]

Why? Give me one good reason.

"These fans paid for admission and whether they're booing or cheering, they're still making noise and having a good time and whether y'all love me or hate me what all that matters is that you show that passion."
-John Hussein Cena

 

[Angry Grimace]

I wonder what the people from the 1970s era of Wrestling would think if they were told Wrestling was super popular, but everyone knows its fake and one of the primary draws is the perception of backstage politics.

Yeah, fuck those people that want the wrestlers they like to succeed. Bunch of millennials.

Wrestling is not real. The championship doesn't mean anything.

 

[acrid]

By the way, is it still ok to like Bray Wyatt?

 

[DMczaf]

Why? Give me one good reason.

Because the WWE Universe is allowed to voice their opinion, and that's what's great about the WWE.

 

[jmdajr]

Cena going over Bryan at WrestleMania 31 would only result in the fans shitting on Brock/Roman even harder.

Nope. Not if Brock murders Reigns and wins.

 

[Sephzilla]

I wonder what the people from the 1970s era of Wrestling would think if they were told Wrestling was super popular, but everyone knows its fake and one of the primary draws is the perception of backstage politics.



Wrestling is not real.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people knew it was fake even back then. The only difference between then and now was kayfabe, and the internet.

 

[bean breath]

Yeah, fuck those people that want the wrestlers they like to succeed. Bunch of millennials.

Will booing Kofi Kingston and Big E during the Royal Rumble help Daniel Bryan achieve success?

 

[Jimmy King]

I don't really understand where anyone is coming from here but I sure as hell respect your opinions, love 'em or hate 'em.

 

[Kaladin]

All I want is Daniel Bryan to have that one match that is considered a Wrestlemania classic that I know he can have.

He hasn't had it yet, even after last year.

 

[Vylash]

Because the WWE Universe is allowed to voice their opinion, and that's what's great about the WWE.

they paid their money, they can cheer or boo whoever they like, and as long as i'm out there doing my thing it's cool with me

 

[jmdajr]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people knew it was fake even back then. The only difference between then and now was kayfabe.

We just play along differently now.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

"Like him or not, you have to respect Daniel Bryan"?

Nah, that shit doesn't sound right at all

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Would the Daniel Bryan fans be satiated by him putting on entertaining matches alone? I have my doubts, jmdajr. Something tells me that they want him to have the shiniest gold belt and be the center of attention, too. Which is odd, considering they're driven by the priniciple that the wrestling should matter more than anything.

Heel, you are absolutely right.

 

[Gorillaz]

The good thing about Cena's fans is they don't sh*t on other Superstar's matches or big moments.

I guess you can say Cena fans are more mature then DB fans, friend?

 

[Sephzilla]

All I want is Daniel Bryan to have that one match that is considered a Wrestlemania classic that I know he can have.

He hasn't had it yet, even after last year.

His match against HHH was definitely a classic. What people want is to see Bryan get the proper WrestleMania push that he deserves (aka, the one Roman is getting) where he wins the Rumble, goes on to win the belt at Mania, holds the belt for a nice multi-month reign, and then everything is good. Anyone who thinks Bryan doesn't deserve that is delusional.

 

[kiguel182]

I wonder what the people from the 1970s era of Wrestling would think if they were told Wrestling was super popular, but everyone knows its fake and one of the primary draws is the perception of backstage politics.



Wrestling is not real. The championship doesn't mean anything.

What? Position on the card matters obviously.

Will booing Kofi Kingston and Big E during the Royal Rumble help Daniel Bryan achieve success?

Last year it did.

 

[Data West]

I've had the old Royal Rumble theme stuck nonstop in my head

 

[jmdajr]

I don't really understand where anyone is coming from here but I sure as hell respect your opinions, love 'em or hate 'em.

But who here respects no one's opinions?

 

[DMczaf]

Meltzer pushing for a 20 minute DBry vs Seth-kun match for a WWE title shot at WM31

:*(

 

[bean breath]

"These fans paid for admission and whether they're booing or cheering, they're still making noise and having a good time and whether y'all love me or hate me what all that matters is that you show that passion."
-John Hussein Cena

Because the WWE Universe is allowed to voice their opinion, and that's what's great about the WWE.

Can't argue with that.

 

[Jimmy King]

There are many problems in WWE and everyone is just honing in on the part that annoys them the most without much consideration for the bigger picture. Can't we all just get along for $9.99 a month?

 

[jmdajr]

His match against HHH was definitely a classic. What people want is to see Bryan get the proper WrestleMania push that he deserves (aka, the one Roman is getting) where he wins the Rumble, goes on to win the belt at Mania, holds the belt for a nice multi-month reign, and then everything is good. Anyone who thinks Bryan doesn't deserve that is delusional.

I think even Roman Reigns fans would be satisfied with this.

 

[kiguel182]

I love this idea that not liking something and wanting things makes someone entitled.

In general entitled has lost all his meaning in these boards.

 

[bean breath]

Last year it did.

Everything that happened with Daniel Bryan last year was just to spite CM Punk.

 

[acrid]

Did you lose a bet?

You could say that. =)

 

[Heel]

I'm of the opinion that The Yes Movement doesn't realize that Daniel Bryan being short-changed is a fulcrum to his popularity as a professional wrestler, and the WWE is now driving that by design. By not giving you what you want, you continue to watch. A carny ploy, if you will.

 

[Sephzilla]

Everything that happened with Daniel Bryan last year was just to spite CM Punk.

Everything that happened last year with Daniel Bryan was just because Batista couldn't go 2 minutes in the ring.

 

[jmdajr]

You could say that. =)

I'm sorry

 

[Cagey]

What? Position on the card matters obviously.

It shouldn't matter to the fans, but the (pick the damn label you choose for us/Philly crowd/etc.) fans take a silly interest in the backstage theatrics and fourth-wall breaking meta nonsense that they're convinced it's what they should care about, rather than what happens in storylines or winners and losers. They've redefined what's winning and losing to be how they perceive the WWE to value wrestlers for spots on the card and pushes and whatever.

Do they care about the actual product of pro wrasslin as much? Or do they think that backstage meta shit IS the product?

A little ignorance can be very blissful.

 

[JesseEwiak]

His match against HHH was definitely a classic. What people want is to see Bryan get the proper WrestleMania push that he deserves (aka, the one Roman is getting) where he wins the Rumble, goes on to win the belt at Mania, holds the belt for a nice multi-month reign, and then everything is good. Anyone who thinks Bryan doesn't deserve that is delusional.

He had his chance at that, and blew it by getting injured. Not Vince's fault Bryan wasted a decade killing himself on the indies.

 

[Jimmy King]

Everything that happened with Daniel Bryan last year was just to spite CM Punk.

Let me link you to a Bleacher Report article that says otherwise -- They even have sources straight from WWE.

 

[jmdajr]

It shouldn't matter to the fans, but the (pick the damn label you choose for us/Philly crowd/etc.) fans take a silly interest in the backstage theatrics and fourth-wall breaking meta nonsense that they're convinced it's what they should care about.

A little ignorance can be very blissful.

My coworker is a big WWE fan and knows nothing about backstage politics. I was curious to see his reaction after the Rumble and he was basically like...

"Reigns sure showed Big Show and Kane who's boss!"

 

[kiguel182]

It shouldn't matter to the fans, but the (pick the damn label you choose for us/Philly crowd/etc.) fans take a silly interest in the backstage theatrics and fourth-wall breaking meta nonsense that they're convinced it's what they should care about.

A little ignorance can be very blissful.

Without position on the card what does it matter in wrestling? Flashy moves?

Because there are barely stories right now. A wrestler wins when he moves up the card.

Honestly half the reason I like wrestling is because behind all the scripted stuff the things that happen in the ring have real consequences.

 

[Cagey]

My coworker is a big WWE fan and knows nothing about backstage politics. I was curious to see his reaction after the Rumble and he was basically like...

"Reigns sure showed Big Show and Kane who's boss!"

Man, I bet he has a hell of a lot more fun than any of us do watching wrestling, because to him it's still real: as in, it's still a real television show.

 

[Heel]

It shouldn't matter to the fans, but the (pick the damn label you choose for us/Philly crowd/etc.) fans take a silly interest in the backstage theatrics and fourth-wall breaking meta nonsense that they're convinced it's what they should care about, rather than what happens in storylines or winners and losers. They've redefined what's winning and losing to be how they perceive the WWE to value wrestlers for spots on the card and pushes and whatever.

Do they care about the actual product of pro wrasslin as much? Or do they think that backstage meta shit IS the product?

A little ignorance can be very blissful.

 

[jmdajr]

Man, I bet he has a hell of a lot more fun than any of us do watching wrestling, because to him it's still real: as in, it's still a real television show.

I have no doubt.

 

[Sephzilla]

He had his chance at that, and blew it by getting injured. Not Vince's fault Bryan wasted a decade killing himself on the indies.

By that logic shouldn't Roman's push be stopped because his momentum got stopped by a hernia?

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

He had his chance at that, and blew it by getting injured. Not Vince's fault Bryan wasted a decade killing himself on the indies.

Cause an injury always stops a person's momentum.

*cough*Hunter*cough*
*cough*Austin*cough*
*cough*Cena*cough*

*dies of black lung.

 

[Macho Madness]

It struck me today where WWE and Vince have gone wrong in a lot of ways.

Hardcore fans don't trust Vince to make the right choice for them anymore. So when it becomes obvious that someone is a Vince pick, they have to prove they are worth caring about as much as the people the fans like.

Not that it's always the case but it makes sense to me.

Austin even said it in his podcasts over the past few days. Until you've "paid your dues" to the fans in a sense, it's hard to make it work as a top act.

 

[Angry Grimace]

It shouldn't matter to the fans, but the (pick the damn label you choose for us/Philly crowd/etc.) fans take a silly interest in the backstage theatrics and fourth-wall breaking meta nonsense that they're convinced it's what they should care about, rather than what happens in storylines or winners and losers. They've redefined what's winning and losing to be how they perceive the WWE to value wrestlers for spots on the card and pushes and whatever.

Do they care about the actual product of pro wrasslin as much? Or do they think that backstage meta shit IS the product?

A little ignorance can be very blissful.

Ziggler/Bryan sounds like a pretty fun match, which a lot of people will hate for not being Bryan/Lesnar, despite the fact I can't imagine Bryan/Lesnar would be a better match.

 

[jmdajr]

Awesome

 

[Sephzilla]

Ziggler/Bryan sounds like a pretty fun match, which a lot of people will hate for not being Bryan/Lesnar, despite the fact I can't imagine Bryan/Lesnar would be a better match.

I'd be perfectly okay with Bryan/Ziggler because it would easily be the match of the show.

 

[JesseEwiak]

By that logic shouldn't Roman's push be stopped because his momentum got stopped by a hernia?

Cause an injury always stops a person's momentum.

*cough*Hunter*cough*
*cough*Austin*cough*
*cough*Cena*cough*

*dies of black lung.

None of these guys got injured (along with leaving for weeks due to family issues and getting married) when they first were given the ball. That's what Daniel-stand don't get it.

 

[Jimmy King]

None of these guys got injured (along with leaving for weeks due to family issues and getting married) when they first were given the ball. That's what Daniel-stand don't get it.

But is HBO Go a viable platform?

 

[Sephzilla]

None of these guys got injured (along with leaving for weeks due to family issues and getting married) when they first were given the ball. That's what Daniel-stand don't get it.

Austin got his neck broken when he was given the IC title (for clarification - the IC title still meant a lot back then)

 

[bean breath]

All I'll say is this:

You want Daniel Bryan to have a main event spot on a live show?

Well he's got one. Tonight. He'll be facing Kane in a Casket Match.

Now we'll all see just how good he really is.

Tonight is our Wrestlemania.