Japanese couple analyze Assassin's Creed Shadows historical accuracy
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killatopak
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Watched this yesterday. It's very nitpicky but some of those are just downright disrespectful if you're knowledgeable about Japanese culture. Some are just plain agriculture and seasonal knowledge that it's baffling Ubisoft got them wrong.
Like they've made so many AC games before so why get basic stuff wrong now of all times.
Like they've made so many AC games before so why get basic stuff wrong now of all times.
Johnny Holiday
Banned
I can't recall a game where I was bothered by its historical correctness.
steve_o_3000
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The soundtrack is banging.
Yes, the leads at Sucker Punch were honored as permanent official ambassadors of the island of Tsushima.
Kacho
Member
True. It's just a case of little things adding up to make it unauthentic. I personally wouldn't notice anything if it wasn't pointed out. Still interesting though and more bad PR for the game before launch.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Well, yeah. One game was obviously made due to the devs' love and passion for a Japanese setting and Japanese history. The other game was made because they've been asked repeatedly for years and want to get it out of the way.
StereoVsn
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I thought Unity and Syndicate were pretty well done in those aspects.
Odyssey also had a very well realized setting, but not sure about historical accuracy there. They didn't seem to have completely wrong architecture at least.
killatopak
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Chinese subs for Japan? Lmao
How can you get that wrong?! You're literally making a game about them.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I could have sworn they taught us how the Pope tried to kick Ezio's ass in Sunday School.
Japan is very particular about its culture, hence why it still has one.
Kurotri
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From what I know, AC games have never been very historically accurate, they always bend certain things for gameplay needs. But overall, they used to be generally accurate enough as much as they could. This aspect has gotten worse over the years though and has reached a completely new low with Shadows. It's sad to see, especially with the Japan setting.
DeepEnigma
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There was when Odyssey hit and the recon they did when they, at the time, tried passing it off as historically accurate down to an in-game museum, only to backtrack and use the "depiction" labels going forward.
Skifi28
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I can understand the Japanese being pissed off in this case, but the west seems even more so.
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Kacho
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DeepEnigma
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Progressive and moral lady viking lords who only rape and pillage monasteries that deserve it for being Christian. Embarrassing, but we definitely haven't hit rock bottom yet!
Where was the outrage for all the other AC games regarding historical accuracy ? (actually in France there was some heated debate about how they represented the Revolution but still).
Have Americans ever complained because MGS, a japanese production, was historically inaccurate lmao ?
All this seems pretty pathetic
Have Americans ever complained because MGS, a japanese production, was historically inaccurate lmao ?
All this seems pretty pathetic
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
That was so baffling to me. I'm pretty sure I went on huge killing sprees in Odyssey. I also pillaged far more loot in Odyssey!
Even if you don't play the lady, some characters still refer to you as a woman. Apparently that's the canon option.
Honestly, I think Valhalla's one of the worst games I've ever played, and it makes me want to never touch the series again.
GymWolf
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The worse thing is that valhlla sold more than any other ac game so ubisoft REALLY didn't learned the lesson here...
kikii
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The music video is referencing a controversy where Ubisoft released an AC Shadows video for the Japanese market with hardcoded Chinese subtitles.hmmm ??? for me it has english subs oO
Bernardougf
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Hope they make an assassins creed uganda or congo and put a white lead together with several african history mistakes... pretty sure "bothering" will be a huge understatement for the reaction of the western mainstream media.
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kikii
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ohh i missunderstood then my badThe music video is referencing a controversy where Ubisoft released an AC Shadows video for the Japanese market with hardcoded Chinese subtitles.
Omnipunctual Godot
Member
I'm equally concerned about doors to nowhere, floating doors, etc. It looks like the environments were designed by AI.
Imtjnotu
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SJW's never sleep.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I'm sure the Egypt one was praised for its museum mode that highlighted real object, unless I dreamt that
killatopak
Member
It's about Ubi making Chinese subs for the Japanese audience at least according to the music video I quoted. Not the actual video itself with the banger music.hmmm ??? for me it has english subs oO
E: im stoopid ^^
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Bernardougf
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Can you imagine a white lead killing black people in assasins creed africa ? LoL... the guy that piches that in Ubi is banned from the industry in the next day ... and people want to question japanese trying to call attention for their culture disrespect.
Icymanipulator
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I enjoyed the historical tour mode in Odyssey, but man this is just embarrassing.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
I've seen a lot of complaints about certain buildings/architecture not being accurate at all. I got uplay+ to play Outlaws but Im not going to play Shadows either way, I mean look at Valhalla. It received so much bloat content over the 4 years that anyone who played it at launch basically played the alpha state of the game and Shadows will be in the exact same spot.
Reading Japanese novels can be eye-opening. You get insight into all the things Japanese people are silently judging each other about under the veil of politeness. Must be stressful to know everyone else is scrutinizing you with those same thoughts, hence the culture of perfectionism.
It's freeing to be an American and not worry so much about such things in day to day life.
GymWolf
Member
Don't they have like the highest amount of young suicides over there because of the constant pressure?
Yeah, too much pressure all around. Similarly in South Korea. There was a famous case where a North Korean girl escaped to SK, was initially relieved to escape her oppressors but later committed suicide because of the stressful and ultra-competitive SK school environment. That really says something about the conditions young people are under.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
I lived and worked in Japan for 10 years and they are always judging on how someone looks. If I got 6 hours of sleep instead of 8 and had slightly darker circles under my eyes, I could count on at least 5 blunt comments from coworkers about how I had "kuma" eyes that day (bear eyes, i.e. dark circles around eyes).
There's definitely more pressure to present visually as your best every day. What's funny is when I would fly back to the U.S. for Christmas or whatnot, the first thing I'd notice when hitting SFO airport was that everyone looked like slobs.
kikii
Member
yaa i didnt remember what they were singing in that video cause i have bad memory but i did remember that they were mocking ubi
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Bullying is a massive issue in Japan and SK, probably more than anywhere in the world.
Fess
Member
Everybody living in the nordic countries cringed and did a facepalm when they realized that they gave the male viking in AC Valhalla a woman's name. Would've taken the dev team about 3 seconds of research to get that right, like ask anybody living there:
- Can a man be called Eivor?
- No.
- Okay thanks!
But it just wasn't as big of a deal online because it's a tiny market. Japan is a bigger market, Ubisoft will still succeed to rape their culture and history by calling it fiction but it's going to get noisier this time.
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