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[Koozek]

Sadly, Rape of Nanking, Unit 731 and general Japanese war crime denial is more prevalent than people who don't live there would think. From what I know, that kind of stuff is rarely, if ever, covered in Japanese schools.

The Dragon Quest composer is one of those deniers, which shocked me when I learned of it years ago Back when I still naively thought that people who make beautiful art couldn't be terrible persons.

 

[Apathy]

"I'm going to say something really anti Semitic, but if you interpret that as me being anti Semitic, sorry"

 

[Captain Tuttle]

A lot of American schools are no different when it comes to teaching about our own atrocities, both in war times and otherwise. I spent the majority of my school years in the Southern US, where the Civil War is taught as a war fought over states' rights, Booker T. Washington is hailed as a hero while W.E.B. Dubois is looked at skeptically, and Jim Crow, black incarceration, the Japanese Internment Camps and many other issues are basically glossed over. Not excusing Japan, but that's how these sentiments are fostered in the US, so I'm sure it's similar in Japan as well. This CEO is obviously a dick, and denying Japanese atrocities in WWII is reprehensible, but we've got a president who says the same sort of shit and millions who voted for him.

Then make a thread about America, this one's about Japan

 

[GoutPatrol]

Many people would be surprised on the reputation of Jewish people in Asia. I have had several people learn that I am Jewish and regale me with tales about how Jews control all the banks and the media...and consider it a good thing. It just shows how smart they all are!

 

[Sage00]

Here we go with another another Japan thread.

Addressing the usual suspect replies here, not idiots like Motoya or Sugiyama: Look, here's the actual reality. As far as countries who deny war crimes, support extreme views and so on go, Japan is pretty much the bottom of the list.

Why? People don't give a shit. They don't know and they don't care. It's literally nothing to do with them.

The root cause of this is after WW2 US needed a confident ally in Asia, so unlike Germany which everyone wanted to weaken (you are very bad, remember you are bad and can't be trusted, you killed millions of innocents, you can't trust yourself to be strong again), Japan had to be confident and powerful quickly (the war was bad but it was just some bad leaders, the soldiers fought honourably, the emperor was misled, you must rebuild, your friend the US will help).

As a direct result of literally years of this propaganda the general population is completely disconnected from these issues. As far as they're concerned the Meiji era is succeeded by 1946.

Compare and contrast to a few countries.

South Korea on Japan: Children literally draw burning Japanese flags in school. The president's residence has a live video feed of some stupid rock in the middle of the ocean with no residents playing 24/7. They go around building statues outside every Japanese embassy of war time (forced and unforced) prostitutes who became the first ever in history to receive a settlement and apology. People are fucking hysterical about Japan in videos.

Japan on South Korea: Can't wait for Toho Shinki to finish military service so I can go see them live in Tokyo Dome.

China on Japan: They deny the Nanking Massacre which killed over 10x the population of that entire region of China at that time (don't mind this). Way more than any western historian agrees it is, they're just brainwashed by Japanese propaganda. Sushi actually comes from China, you know. Let's burn all Toyota and Honda cars belonging to Chinese traitors.

Japan on China: Please keep coming to Ginza and buying stuff. The air pollution over there seems bad though you guys.

America on Japan: Can't believe how they whitewash their history. By the way the nuclear bomb was totally necessary, actually. A land invasion would've probably killed way more so in a way we were helping them. What? We killed way more innocent civilians with firebombing runs in Tokyo than any nuclear weapon? Women and children literally burned to death in the streets? And why did we drop another nuke? Err.. Next question. Fake news.

Japan on America: Can't believe you guys actually elected Trump. Can I still have my honeymoon in Hawaii?

Is being brainwashed into some 'patriotic' jingoistic machine really better than malaise? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

[ccbfan]

Past Japanese attrocity defense force is probably the worst defense force on GAF.

They're literally defending the country's effort to ignore the raping, killing and experimenting millions of people and try to erase it from their history.

Its laughable that poeple defend that its one person when the country itself in education and media ignores these atrocities.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Here we go with another another Japan thread.

Addressing the usual suspect replies here, not idiots like Motoya or Sugiyama: Look, here's the actual reality. As far as countries who deny war crimes, support extreme views and so on go, Japan is pretty much the bottom of the list.

Why? People don't give a shit. They don't know and they don't care. It's literally nothing to do with them.

The root cause of this is after WW2 US needed a confident ally in Asia, so unlike Germany which everyone wanted to weaken (you are very bad, remember you are bad and can't be trusted, you killed millions of innocents, you can't trust yourself to be strong again), Japan had to be confident and powerful quickly (the war was bad but it was just some bad leaders, the soldiers fought honourably, the emperor was misled, you must rebuild, your friend the US will help).

As a direct result of literally years of this propaganda the general population is completely disconnected from these issues. As far as they're concerned the Meiji era is succeeded by 1946.

Compare and contrast to a few countries.

South Korea on Japan: Children literally draw burning Japanese flags in school. The president's residence has a live video feed of some stupid rock in the middle of the ocean with no residents playing 24/7. They go around building statues outside every Japanese embassy of war time (forced and unforced) prostitutes who became the first ever in history to receive a settlement and apology. People are fucking hysterical about Japan in videos.

Japan on South Korea: Can't wait for Toho Shinki to finish military service so I can go see them live in Tokyo Dome.

China on Japan: They deny the Nanking Massacre which killed over 10x the population of that entire region of China at that time (don't mind this). Way more than any western historian agrees it is, they're just brainwashed by Japanese propaganda. Sushi actually comes from China, you know. Let's burn all Toyota and Honda cars belonging to Chinese traitors.

Japan on China: Please keep coming to Ginza and buying stuff. The air pollution over there seems bad though you guys.

America on Japan: Can't believe how they whitewash their history. By the way the nuclear bomb was totally necessary, actually. A land invasion would've probably killed way more so in a way we were helping them. What? We killed way more innocent civilians with firebombing runs in Tokyo than any nuclear weapon? Women and children literally burned to death in the streets? And why did we drop another nuke? Err.. Next question. Fake news.

Japan on America: Can't believe you guys actually elected Trump. Can I still have my honeymoon in Hawaii?

Is being brainwashed into some 'patriotic' jingoistic machine really better than malaise? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Im not sure what this whataboutism post tries to prove?
Im German so I know what shit my ancestors did and its important to be reminded of that, especially in times like now where anti-semitism seems to become a "meme".

No, there exist leftists in Japan.

I remember Miyazaki got in an argument with some japanese novelist, because he (the novelist) denied the war crimes. Afaik Miyazaki is someone who pushes for the truth to be told.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/21/miya-j21.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1296325/miyazakis-newest-film-soars-despite-criticism

 

[Sage00]

Im not sure what this whataboutism post tries to prove?

Im German so I know what shit my ancestors did and its important to be reminded of that, especially in times like now where anti-semitism seems to become a "meme".

And here comes the one that actually annoys me the most. Germany with its holier-than-thou we hath repented facade while literally holding entire countries like Greece to ransom in conditions eerily similar to those that caused the rise of Hitler in Germany in the first place. Then wondering why Europe is one the march to fascism once again..

It's not whataboutism, it's pointing out the hypocrisy in that there isn't a nation on earth with the exception of Germany (which only does so because it was forced to for so long it became second nature) that HIGHLIGHTS the terrible things it did in history. (And let's not forget at this point Japan did a lot of terrible things - murdering civilians in China with bayonets, performing inhumane stuff-of-nightmares experiments on POWs, executing enemies who surrendered, an industrial strength abduction of women for prostitution, and so on).

The point is there isn't a nation on Earth that would actively promote that they did these things, and if Germany weren't forced to I doubt they would either.

 

[Hitlersaurus Christ]

That's exactly how many conversations go down. "You (meaning all of the Western world) dropped bombs on us. That's fucked up. We're now the victims and blameless". Remarkable how the generations line works for them, yet Japanese media constantly asks people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki "HOW can America apologise better?"

I mean, my experience with younger people is less "we're blameless" and more "neither one of us is blameless," but I understand that's not necessarily the norm.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

This is not an apology..LMAO assholes.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

And here comes the one that actually annoys me the most. Germany with its holier-than-thou we hath repented facade while literally holding entire countries like Greece to ransom in conditions eerily similar to those that caused the rise of Hitler in Germany in the first place. Then wondering why Europe is one the march to fascism once again..

Its not similar at all. Greece is still not in the same situation that the Weimar Republic ever was.
But thats another topic.

You still havent replied to the whataboutism post. What does it have to do with anything other than "But look at the other countries. They also did bad things.

 

[Reset]

It's complicated. I'm 37. We learned that we dropped the bombs, and their awful effects. But we were also told that "it was the only way to end the war"

So we are, or were, sugar coating stuff. And this was New York.

I do worry about what kind of history is taught in the kind of districts that include Creationism.

Uh they teach about the camps even in middle school, you need to know it for the state exams. And the Regents also covers it, so you're taught it again in high school in New York. So I guess things have changed.

 

[Sunster]

Jewish people never get a break. How do they have all these haters in every corner of the globe for like thousands and thousands of years???

 

[Sage00]

Its not similar at all. Greece is still not in the same situation that the Weimar Republic ever was.
But thats another topic.

You still havent replied to the whataboutism post. What does it have to do with anything other than "But look at the other countries. They also did bad things.

Sorry I was editing my post above. It's there now.

 

[Dio]

Here we go with another another Japan thread.

Addressing the usual suspect replies here, not idiots like Motoya or Sugiyama: Look, here's the actual reality. As far as countries who deny war crimes, support extreme views and so on go, Japan is pretty much the bottom of the list.

Why? People don't give a shit. They don't know and they don't care. It's literally nothing to do with them.

The root cause of this is after WW2 US needed a confident ally in Asia, so unlike Germany which everyone wanted to weaken (you are very bad, remember you are bad and can't be trusted, you killed millions of innocents, you can't trust yourself to be strong again), Japan had to be confident and powerful quickly (the war was bad but it was just some bad leaders, the soldiers fought honourably, the emperor was misled, you must rebuild, your friend the US will help).

As a direct result of literally years of this propaganda the general population is completely disconnected from these issues. As far as they're concerned the Meiji era is succeeded by 1946.

This is kind of outdated. The internet is raising radical and nationalist people in Japan, more than there were before. 2ch/2chan have let this fester, just like our very own 4chan

https://news.vice.com/article/japans-internet-nationalists-really-hate-koreans

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/10/...anese-women-showing-nationalistic-tendencies/

https://www.theglobalist.com/japan-shinzo-abe-nationalism-germany/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/nippon-kaigi-and-the-rise-of-nationalism-in-japan/6994560

Obviously, these people are a small minority, but fanatical Trump supporters are also a small minority (but grew larger during the election.)

Even some of the random Japanese media I've been consuming recently has turned out to be nationalist and Japan #1 spun work; for example, GATE. Glorification of the JSDF and all that.

 

[BajiBoxer]

It's complicated. I'm 37. We learned that we dropped the bombs, and their awful effects. But we were also told that "it was the only way to end the war"

So we are, or were, sugar coating stuff. And this was New York.

I do worry about what kind of history is taught in the kind of districts that include Creationism.

Same age, and our classes were similiar, though I recall how necesary it was was open for debate. My teachers mostly didn't teach from the required textbook, so no idea what it said.

Not sure how it's done in the countries mentioned, but it's worth mentioning that there is a lot of variation in U.S. schools because of how much has been controlled at the state and local level. For example, when my mom was in school she learned about the civil war as "The War of Northern Agression" until her family moved to a northern state.

 

[maxcriden]

Dude it is super awful. Just picture having a conversation with someone like that. I get one person per week on my train ride into Tokyo bringing that stuff up... It boggles my mind but then I remember the schools do not teach about the bad stuff Japan did during that time.

Ah, I didn't realize that wasn't taught in Japanese schools. I find that problematic. Thanks for sharing this, though. I didn't know such attitudes were still so prevalent there. I'm sure that is very uncomfortable to hear, sorry you have to experience that.

 

[Sage00]

This is kind of outdated. The internet is raising radical and nationalist people in Japan, more than there were before. 2ch/2chan have let this fester, just like our very own 4chan

https://news.vice.com/article/japans-internet-nationalists-really-hate-koreans

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/10/...anese-women-showing-nationalistic-tendencies/

https://www.theglobalist.com/japan-shinzo-abe-nationalism-germany/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/nippon-kaigi-and-the-rise-of-nationalism-in-japan/6994560

Obviously, these people are a small minority, but fanatical Trump supporters are also a small minority (but grew larger during the election.)

Even some of the random Japanese media I've been consuming recently has turned out to be nationalist and Japan #1 spun work; for example, GATE. Glorification of the JSDF and all that.

And some of the other media will be critical of the Japan #1 approach. Example: the highest grossing live action movie in Japan last year - Shin Godzilla - which's entire story is based on how the current state of Japan is terrible, the beaurocratic leaders who long for the past military glory are useless, and they can only get better by handing over to a new generation who have new ideas and prefer to use science than military power.

But doesn't it feel completely ridiculous to be going back and forth using examples of media and right wing websites like this? Is there a country in the world you can't do this for?

Dude it is super awful. Just picture having a conversation with someone like that. I get one person per week on my train ride into Tokyo bringing that stuff up… It boggles my mind but then I remember the schools do not teach about the bad stuff Japan did during that time.

Forgot to reply to this one earlier. Err.. you speak to random people on your train ride into Tokyo about Japan's imperial past every week? Actually, hold on.. you speak to random people on the train? In Tokyo? Regularly? Gonna need to see the receipts.. or I hope you take the train at different times every week or people are going to start avoiding the carriage with the crazy foreigner.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

Past Japanese attrocity defense force is probably the worst defense force on GAF.

They're literally defending the country's effort to ignore the raping, killing and experimenting millions of people and try to erase it from their history.

Its laughable that poeple defend that its one person when the country itself in education and media ignores these atrocities.

Yo I went to school in Japan, and we learned about various war atrocities.

We didn't go into super detail, like women getting raped and stabbed in their vaginas, but we were taught about the Nanking Massacre happening and shit.

The thing about History class in Japan, at least at the school I went to, is that we didn't go into much detail about anything because history class literally went from like the dawn of civilization to the 1990s. The most detail we went into was with the atomic bombings, where he had to watch a short documentary.

We learned important historical moments in sequence. They emphasised events and dates more than the details behind it, which is shitty, but it's because of the testing system over there. Students generally just cram and learn dates, names, and events for their high school entrance exams.

People are making it sound like war atrocities are completely erased from text books, which is false.

 

[Dio]

And some of the other media will be critical of the Japan #1 approach. Example: the highest grossing live action movie in Japan last year - Shin Godzilla - which's entire story is based on how the current state of Japan is terrible, the beaurocratic leaders who long for the past military glory are useless, and they can only get better by handing over to a new generation who have new ideas and prefer to use science than military power.

Well, Anno's always been a bit of an incendiary guy. Either way, maybe I'm not THAT intimately familiar with the Chinese/Korean/Japanese side of the internet, but I am familiar enough with it to know that on the internet, tensions have been driven very high.

For example, on the Japanese side, there's adding -nida to your sentences to indicate that you're talking like a dirty Korean. They even have an emoticon for it: <&#65344;&#8704;´>

Nida &#8211; A cat based on Korean stereotypes created by some xenophobic Japanese. He either talks about Japanese war crimes, or stirs up trouble. Often ends sentences in ”nida". His favorite drink is apology juice, in reference in the apology's Koreans demand for the suffering the Japanese did in during the occupation of Korea in World War II.

All of this stuff is post-2000, obviously.

People are making it sound like war atrocities are completely erased from text books, which is false.

You're right, but it is a point of controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_history_textbook_controversies

 

[Valkerionseven]

Even some of the random Japanese media I've been consuming recently has turned out to be nationalist and Japan #1 spun work; for example, GATE. Glorification of the JSDF and all that.

Been watching GATE as well, and while its a pretty damn good anime, your right it is pretty cock jerky for the JSDF and Japan government in general. Also the satire of the various nation leaders, is crazy too. I love watching their "peaceful politics" and being like... 'hmmm ok Japan -eyeroll-' Once again, good show though, but like most Japanese things in anime that could or do deal with a heavy topic, they avoid going too deep to not ruffle feathers/make a larger point.

Here we go with another another Japan thread.
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Funny post, because its pretty damn accurate in general.



Also I would remind people to not merge the public's general ignorance to the past with the idea that its a collective purposeful attempt to whitewash/deny it all together. Blame the government/education committees not the normal people on the street for this kind of thing.

 

[Ratrat]

Past Japanese attrocity defense force is probably the worst defense force on GAF.

They're literally defending the country's effort to ignore the raping, killing and experimenting millions of people and try to erase it from their history.

Its laughable that poeple defend that its one person when the country itself in education and media ignores these atrocities.

This is not true.
Yes, Japanese text books are laughable. But these stories are on tv and newspapers all the fucking time.

 

[4Tran]

Sadly, this guy's views aren't all that far from the Japanese government's. For anyone who's worried by how bad American politics has become, you can be (somewhat) assured that Japan's is probably worse.

Yup, the cultural denial of The Rape of Nanking (imo) is Japan's grossest aspect, in an otherwise really reformed society =

It's almost as bad that people often think that a lot of people seem to sum up all of Japan's World War II atrocities with Nanking. While it's the single most brutal one, there were similar incidents throughout Japanese occupied territory from the 1930s to the end of the war. And it's not even just Unit 731; most of the atrocities were committed by regular rank and file Japanese soldiers.

It's also important to note that most Japanese war criminals escaped prosecution after the war because MacArthur decided to let them go. This includes basically all of Unit 731 too.

Been watching GATE as well, and while its a pretty damn good anime, your right it is pretty cock jerky for the JSDF and Japan government in general. Also the satire of the various nation leaders, is crazy too. I love watching their "peaceful politics" and being like... 'hmmm ok Japan -eyeroll-' Once again, good show though, but like most Japanese things in anime that could or do deal with a heavy topic, they avoid going too deep to not ruffle feathers/make a larger point.

A lot of the people working on manga and anime have strong fascistic tendencies. And these tendencies aren't just allowed by the government; they're promoted at the highest office.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

You're right, but it is a point of controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_history_textbook_controversies

Right. It's just frustrating when people say they don't teach it at all, when I was literally in Japan being taught the events that people are saying were erased.

From that wiki link:

Despite the efforts of the nationalist textbook reformers, by the late 1990s the most common Japanese schoolbooks contained references to, for instance, the Nanking Massacre, Unit 731, and the comfort women of World War II,[2] all historical issues which have faced challenges from ultranationalists in the past.[3] The most recent of the controversial textbooks, the New History Textbook, published in 2000, was shunned by nearly all of Japan's school districts.

Like I mentioned earlier, the stuff we learned was super condensed and didn't go into much detail (this was with everything, not just the war), but that's more of a problem with how the Japanese education system is set up as a whole IMO.

 

[Rest]

So, that response was "We're not sorry we're anti-Semitic, we're sorry you're aware we're anti-Semitic. Please forget that we hate Jews, unless you too hate Jews, then please stay at our hotels."

That's what I got, did I miss anything?

 

[Blablurn]

The hotel should apologize to the Chinese people.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

And here comes the one that actually annoys me the most. Germany with its holier-than-thou we hath repented facade while literally holding entire countries like Greece to ransom in conditions eerily similar to those that caused the rise of Hitler in Germany in the first place. Then wondering why Europe is one the march to fascism once again..

It's not whataboutism, it's pointing out the hypocrisy in that there isn't a nation on earth with the exception of Germany (which only does so because it was forced to for so long it became second nature) that HIGHLIGHTS the terrible things it did in history. (And let's not forget at this point Japan did a lot of terrible things - murdering civilians in China with bayonets, performing inhumane stuff-of-nightmares experiments on POWs, executing enemies who surrendered, an industrial strength abduction of women for prostitution, and so on).

The point is there isn't a nation on Earth that would actively promote that they did these things, and if Germany weren't forced to I doubt they would either.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/23/magazine/facing-up-to-germany-s-past.html?pagewanted=all

Your opinion is 100% awful.

Fuck outta here.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Yeah, we learned all that stuff too. What American school DOESN'T go over our historical flaws? If I was to just toss out a baseless accusation, maybe schools in highly conservative counties and rural areas, though that's just being blown out my ass. Not sure where it was where the history was being taught that slaves were referred to as "migrant workers". Texas?

Given how Russia is now, I wouldn't put it against Putin's regime to erase all the stains of the USSR's past crimes.

Maybe a few of those linguistic shuffles like you mentioned, but even my rural white school in Mississippi went over Vietnam, the internment camps, the Civil War (extensively given the state), etc...

US revisionism tends to revolve around "we should interpret this historical bad thing in a way that makes it seem like the right choice at the time" instead of Japan's "no that historical bad thing just never happened."

 

[travisbickle]

Toshio Motoya is CEO of APA Group, which calls itself Japan’s largest hotel chain, and has drawn China criticism for writing a book denying the 1937 Nanjing massacre happened and placing copies in hundreds of APA hotel rooms.

So is this unverifiable or something? Or like an alternative fact?

 

[Frozenprince]

Pretty much. You want to talk about a country with a lopsided enthusiasm gap between the left and the right.

Though the Japanese left is basically one 70-year story of disarray and impotence.

It's a miracle if they get a 20% election turnout for voting.

Political apathy is a very real, very pervasive issue in Japan, but nobody wants to talk about it.

 

[darkistheway]

It's getting to be where you can't even swing a dead cat without hitting a fascist.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

So is this unverifiable or something? Or like an alternative fact?

Just a guess, but it could depend on the metric. Largest by number of hotels, largest by revenue, largest by public saturation, etc...

 

[FF Seraphim]

Forgot to reply to this one earlier. Err.. you speak to random people on your train ride into Tokyo about Japan's imperial past every week? Actually, hold on.. you speak to random people on the train? In Tokyo? Regularly? Gonna need to see the receipts.. or I hope you take the train at different times every week or people are going to start avoiding the carriage with the crazy foreigner.

Do people not try to talk to you on the train or something? I get it frequently in Yokohama and Tokyo... of course I also get people asking if they can touch my chest or arms while on the train... so I am sure my experiences in Japan is much different than others.

 

[Joni]

EDIT: And of course, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm pretty sure most American schools cover it.

It only counts if it is taught as being a bad thing.

 

[Ratrat]

So is this unverifiable or something? Or like an alternative fact?

Quick google search says 4th.&#12288;Number of hotels.

 

[Jackpot]

Here we go with another another Japan thread.

Addressing the usual suspect replies here, not idiots like Motoya or Sugiyama: Look, here's the actual reality. As far as countries who deny war crimes, support extreme views and so on go, Japan is pretty much the bottom of the list.
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Is being brainwashed into some 'patriotic' jingoistic machine really better than malaise? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

And here comes the one that actually annoys me the most. Germany with its holier-than-thou we hath repented facade while literally holding entire countries like Greece to ransom in conditions eerily similar to those that caused the rise of Hitler in Germany in the first place. Then wondering why Europe is one the march to fascism once again..

 

[Matt]

It only counts if it is taught as being a bad thing.

It's not taught as if it was a good thing. Which is about the most historically accurate way it could be taught.

 

[ahoyhoy]

The bible has got to be the biggest hit piece ever.

Cause "The Jewish Boogeyman" all boils down to they killed jesus

I never understood this. The fact that he was killed and was resurrected is what puts him over the top and helped "redeem mankind", right?

Shouldn't they celebrate it?

 

[slit]

You think American and Russian schools own up to their war crimes from that war?

Pretty much only Germans do, and probably even there there is some level of hiding the truth

Yes, actually the American public school system does address it. Maybe not shouting it from the rooftops but it's not denied.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Huh? What the hell Japan.

Think about what you're posting for longer than 2 seconds, thanks. This individual does not represent over 100 million people. That's absolutely fucking absurd.

That's like seeing Trump get elected and instantly assuming he represents every American. Bah, these comments just really irritate me, sorry haha.

 

[Dehnus]

Holy shit, these guys don't even hide it. The 10% of people in Japan that still long for the days of The Empire are sad as fuck and hopefully will get punched in the face a good bit in their lives.

Don't go to this hotel, please, guys.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/japan-...emarks/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

So his apology was the default "Sorry, I'm not sorry."?

 

[walking fiend]

Sadly, Rape of Nanking, Unit 731 and general Japanese war crime denial is more prevalent than people who don't live there would think. From what I know, that kind of stuff is rarely, if ever, covered properly in Japanese schools.

Did you know that US gave immunity to researchers/commanders at Unit 731 in exchange for the information they had collected?

 

[adversesolutions]

Walked by my local APA Hotel today in Kamata and saw maybe 50 people in a semi-full bar enjoying drinks and schmoozing into the Friday night. More needs to be done to destroy this chain.

 

[messiaen]

You think American and Russian schools own up to their war crimes from that war?

Pretty much only Germans do, and probably even there there is some level of hiding the truth

Donald? Is that you?

Actually American war crimes during the Indian wars, civil war, somewhat WWII, and Vietnam were certainly covered in my public school's curriculum.

Yeah, we even talked about bias in textbooks and looked at British textbooks covering the American revolution, etc.

 

[Slayven]

I never understood this. The fact that he was killed and was resurrected is what puts him over the top and helped "redeem mankind", right?

Shouldn't they celebrate it?

Bigotry runs on a logic that doesn't even obey it's own rule let alone reason. I call it Martha Logic

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

Japan on South Korea: Can't wait for Toho Shinki to finish military service so I can go see them live in Tokyo Dome.

Japan on China: Please keep coming to Ginza and buying stuff. The air pollution over there seems bad though you guys.

Japan on America: Can't believe you guys actually elected Trump. Can I still have my honeymoon in Hawaii?

Is being brainwashed into some 'patriotic' jingoistic machine really better than malaise? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

These are ridiculous oversimplifications and you're acting just as bad as the people you're criticizing.

Just as not everyone in Japan is against Korea, China, and America, not everyone is for them either. Korean pop groups is popular but right wingers also March through Shin-Okubo telling Korean people to leave Japan. Plenty of Japanese people will grudgingly take money from Chinese tourists but will complain endlessly about their manners. People protest American military bases and soldiers. If it's bad for people to oversimplify in a negative manner it's bad for you to do so in a positive manner. There's always more nuance to be discussed.