I have a feeling that Sony wasn't deluded into thinking whatever the fuck that is was part of a major franchise.Just like the rest of Sony's smaller games.
Horizon 1 sold 30 million, Horizon 2 is at 15 million and counting, the franchise is at 50 million
It costed 500k at most to make, let's be honest.
The Last Guardian was not developed by a Sony first-party studio. Sony Japan was not the lead development team, just a support studio, just like xDev, who have work in a lot of games. Point things this way is really dumb.
you can include helldivers 2 since sony owns the IP but then you will have to include the SOTC Remake, Detroit, Until Dawn, Bloodborne, The Order, etc. BTW, Spiderman only happened because Marvel approached sony for Spiderman game and Sony contracted Insomniac to do it. It is as much a sony first party game as ratchet or killzone was before sony bought out GG.
Eh, no. The Last Guardian had most of the development staff at Japan Studio, GenDesign had 14 people at most.
They didn't publish Nioh, they published Stellar Blade. They funded development on Stellar Blade, they didn't on Nioh.
Personally, Yotei is all they need to show. That IS low...right?Keep expectations really low
Like lower than ever before
You can include everything, lol. This is the right approach. For Sony, Death Stranding 2 is a first-party game, even them not owning the IP. So the same logic can be used for Rise of the Ronin and Helldivers 2 at least. Sony was involved with the development of these games since the beggining. And well, I'm sure Stellar Blade would be a completely different game without Sony involvement, or Lost Soul Aside may never see the light of the day if Sony had not supported since the beginning. So yeah, they have invested in these games, their support studio (xDev) worked on these games, so I really can't see the pratical difference between any of these games or any other made by a Sony studio itself.
All fair points, don't know if I have much to add here.
I honestly think that's overselling it. Let's take a look at the major, big budget productions from each year on that small period:
While price is generally a good indication of this, I wouldn't count of it being the case with Sony's early PS5 games, when they insisted on having that $70 price tag early on; Demon's Souls, RA and Saros are all on the same range as Uncharted: The Lost Legacy in terms of scope and budget.
Fair enough!
I mean, Sucker Punch technically does that, as they have a team dedicated on the MP (not GAAS, btw) component. It even got a standalone release, so I wonder if this could count?
Sure, but Firesprite has always had strength on the VR space, so I wouldn't think it's fair to rule out this one project. Their next game isn't that far off from release, so they have a decent development pipeline.
I do as well!
Checked.
You is considering one specific time frame who support your narrative. lol
I would say it kinda counts, as Japan Studio was a co-developer and Gavin Moore (Puppeteer) directed it.
We are definitely getting older AND Sony summer shows have gotten worse
Yes, the famous "there is no game, minus the games that are there but which don't cause, because"
no, Rise of Ronin, Stellar Blade, Death Stranding, Lost Souls Aside dont count because Sony doesnt own the IP. If they count then Nioh counts. I will give you DS2 since sony funded it completely but the rest of the games are self funded or partially funded by other studios and publishers.
For the fifth time, Sony didn't publish Nioh like they did the other games.
Outside of maybe Rise of the Ronin (which means it's as much of a SIE game as it is a KTG game), Sony funded all those games by the time they published them. "And publishers"
I'm very good at Paint.
Sony owns all those IPs. they simply contracted those studios to work on those IPs. They also owned the Death Stranding IP until they sold to Kojima recently but i counted that one.
It's a narrative, because you ignore the fact that Sony released a lot of games between 2020~2022. Much more than they did between 2013~2015, and without a doubt, with much more quality overall. That explain why they can't release games at the same cadence right now, but overall, compared with last gen, their output (quantity) is basically the same.
They don't own the IP called Spider-Man, so I think we can ignore at least three more games, right? The same regarding Wolverine.
Both are just meaningless marketing monikers which can have whatever content Sony will want to put into them.
