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[Jez Corden Article] Inside the risky strategy that will define Xbox's next decade

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GulfCoastZilla

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Astray said:
If an Xbox-shaped controller with PS5 haptics and features comes out, I'd buy it day 1 no matter who makes it.

Just.. don't make the buttons clicky.. My god the Xbox series controller buttons are noisy as fuck when you're playing.
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I just want / need the thumb stick placement. It’s no exaggeration that I do much better in FPS games with a Xbox controller than a duel sense.
 
Darkness_Arises

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GulfCoastZilla said:
Make a Xbox controller on PS and just print money. It would make more than Hellblade 2 did.
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Why would I use a shitty 3rd party controller, when the dualsense is the most feature rich controller on the market? The only lacking area for the dualsense is reliability and last time I checked the Xbox controller didn't have hall effect sticks. Even if it had those, I am not giving up on the advanced haptics, triggers, gyro and speaker for just hall effect sticks. It is not a great tradeoff. I have more than enough usb c chargers all around my house so battery life is not a concern.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

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Darkness_Arises said:
Why would I use a shitty 3rd party controller, when the dualsense is the most feature rich controller on the market? The only lacking area for the dualsense is reliability and last time I checked the Xbox controller didn't have hall effect sticks. Even if it had those, I am not giving up on the advanced haptics, triggers, gyro and speaker for just hall effect sticks. It is not a great tradeoff. I have more than enough usb c chargers all around my house so battery life is not a concern.
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Some of us just prefer the Xbox controller, myself included
 
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Darkness_Arises said:
Why would I use a shitty 3rd party controller, when the dualsense is the most feature rich controller on the market? The only lacking area for the dualsense is reliability and last time I checked the Xbox controller didn't have hall effect sticks. Even if it had those, I am not giving up on the advanced haptics, triggers, gyro and speaker for just hall effect sticks. It is not a great tradeoff. I have more than enough usb c chargers all around my house so battery life is not a concern.
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There's a reason Nintendo copied the placement of the Xbox analog sticks for the Switch pro controller.
 
Darkness_Arises

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Some of us just prefer the Xbox controller, myself included
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While that may be true and it might do decent numbers, I am not sure how it is going to print money. As in enough money to entice MS to expend the R&D effort for this. Also, some games like this year's GOTY Astrobot will either not work or be a substantially inferior experience with it.
 
HeisenbergFX4

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Bernoulli said:
aren't you bothered by the noise the sticks make?
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Not really.

Bothers me more that I have massive bear paws for hands and when I rest the pads of my thumbs on the PS sticks the tips of my thumbs tend to bump into each other.

I have tried repositioning my thumbs better but so many years of Xbox controller being my go to its just not natural

All the extra feature on the dual sense I just shut off 90% of the time so that’s no advantage

Then when it comes to the pro style controllers I prefer the 4 paddles on the elite vs the 2 on the back of the DS Edge

So for me personally its really not even close which controller I prefer
 
Heisenberg007

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Astray said:
I'm reading the article and it's honestly all over the place lol.

It's like he's having to physically huff copium every few sentences so he can continue writing lmao.
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Exactly. Just finished it, and it was hilarious.

Jez doesn't understand what's happening, or at least he can't accept it, and hence playing on both sides of the pitch. The entire premise of his article is "what if ..." lol.
 
Humdinger

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Heisenberg007 said:
The entire premise of his article is "what if ..." lol.
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Yeah, no kidding. After rehashing history at great length, this is how he wraps up:


But what if they pull it off?

What if all Xbox games had Xbox Play Anywhere? What if all Xbox games were cloud-capable on any device at any time? What if I could benefit from Xbox ecosystem features even when I was running an Xbox game from PlayStation, Steam OS, or Nintendo Switch 2? What if I didn't need to jump through weird hoops to play with friends on other platforms? What if my cloud saves were truly universal and platform-agnostic? What if indie devs supported the Xbox store on PC, and by extension console, as aggressively as they do Steam? Xbox's upcoming slate of games, regardless of platform, is stronger than it has ever been. What if the Xbox OS was extended onto my Windows PC, giving developers building games in the Xbox ecosystem a vastly bigger platform than Xbox could offer on its own hardware endpoints? What if Xbox console hardware could benefit by pure virtue of being adjacent to a more gaming optimized Windows?

I would love to see Xbox consoles find a future as part of a wider, broader, device-agnostic ecosystem. I'm not sure Microsoft has been able to make a compelling nor confident pitch for that so far, to customers or developers. It's evident in the fact Microsoft seemed to misunderstand how difficult it would be to build and deliver a mobile gaming store for Android. It's evident in the fact very few PC devs organically support Xbox on PC. It's evident in the fact many vocal Xbox fans don't feel confident in Xbox's future.

... But what if they pull it off?
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What if unicorns were made of candy? I don't know, Jez. This is an analysis? I thought analyses were supposed to arrive at conclusions.
 
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What if all Xbox games had Xbox Play Anywhere? What if all Xbox games were cloud-capable on any device at any time? What if I could benefit from Xbox ecosystem features even when I was running an Xbox game from PlayStation, Steam OS, or Nintendo Switch 2? What if I didn't need to jump through weird hoops to play with friends on other platforms? What if my cloud saves were truly universal and platform-agnostic? What if indie devs supported the Xbox store on PC, and by extension console, as aggressively as they do Steam? Xbox's upcoming slate of games, regardless of platform, is stronger than it has ever been. What if the Xbox OS was extended onto my Windows PC, giving developers building games in the Xbox ecosystem a vastly bigger platform than Xbox could offer on its own hardware endpoints? What if Xbox console hardware could benefit by pure virtue of being adjacent to a more gaming optimized Windows?
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Absolutely none of this will happen.

Microsoft will move to mostly being a games publisher/developer while having token PC-based hardware available. It'll sell at mediocre levels until they decide to finally end its suffering.
 
TVexperto

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Dude pulls so much shit out of his ass its incredible how are people still listening to him making up shit as he goes?
 
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m14 said:
There's a reason Nintendo copied the placement of the Xbox analog sticks for the Switch pro controller.
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And they shouldn’t have, the WiiU Pro controller placement was perfect. I’ll never understand people who prefer asymmetrical layouts. Must’ve loved N64 controllers too…barf!
 
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Given how often Microsoft corrects its strategy and statements, I would assume a decade of months rather than years.
 
balls of snow

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Some of us just prefer the Xbox controller, myself included
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Yep its the mainstay controller for steam since 360 days. I know it will just work 99% of the time for any controller support game on the store.
That said Dualsense has the better features this gen and fits the whole next gen experience of the ps5.
 
HeisenbergFX4

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balls of snow said:
Yep its the mainstay controller for steam since 360 days. I know it will just work 99% of the time for any controller support game on the store.
That said Dualsense has the better features this gen and fits the whole next gen experience of the ps5.
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DS is by far the superior controller

My current favorite daily driver is an 8Bitdo $29 special :)
 
Gamer_By_Proxy

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imo MS is just prolonging going 3rd party with a subscription service and shutting down their digital store.
It's too expensive to keep people's digital libraries forever, especially when they are not selling hardware well and Steam is dominating PC.
People that have $100s-1000s of money invested in xbox digital games are gonna be so pissed when that day comes.
 
TheGodfather07

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HYDE said:
And they shouldn’t have, the WiiU Pro controller placement was perfect. I’ll never understand people who prefer asymmetrical layouts. Must’ve loved N64 controllers too…barf!
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For me the sticks make no difference. I can go back and forth no problem. Its the rest where the xbox controller is just bad. The buttons are so clicky and loud it feels like some toy controller. Dpad is also a clicky piece of crap and I despise the shoulder buttons aswell! Even the rumble feels cheap. I bought a mayflash adapter just so I didn't have to use the xbox controller on my series x.
 
Astray

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
DS is by far the superior controller

My current favorite daily driver is an 8Bitdo $29 special :)
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Can attest to 8BitDo controllers being excellent. Currently use this for my PC (only works wired with Xbox, don't buy it for that):

8BitDo Ultimate 3-mode Controller for Xbox | 8BitDo

Designed to play cross platform. Officially licensed by Xbox. Compatible with Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Windows, Apple, and Android.
www.8bitdo.com www.8bitdo.com
 
ShadyAcshuns

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People have lost faith in the Xbox brand, and justifiably so. Why get an Xbox when PlayStation can do everything it can do, and more? They need to become strictly a software company.
 
GymWolf

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Sooner said:
Why would I take a major step-back from the only next-gen feeling controller to use that clicky, cheap-feeling controller with the bubble-buttons and has none of the new features of the DualSense?
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Not everyone gives a fuck about controller gimmicks and they would gladly play with a different stick position.
 
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Astray said:
If an Xbox-shaped controller with PS5 haptics and features comes out, I'd buy it day 1 no matter who makes it.

Just.. don't make the buttons clicky.. My god the Xbox series controller buttons are noisy as fuck when you're playing.
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Same, I'm waiting for any third party to do this... hall effect sticks and we're golden, I'll pay whatever they ask.
 
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ProtoByte said:
He's right to be worried. In less than 10 years, the only thread to his current career is probably going to be cut.
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Windows Central started as Windows Mobile Experts which became Windows Phone Central to then Windows Central. They can pivot again to Microsoft Central
 
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