To make a recount prohibitive.
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Jill Stein Launches Fundraising Effort To Ask For A Recount In 3 States
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To make a recount prohibitive.
Calamari41
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Guys, seriously, don't get your hopes up.
Vote flips during recounts number in the hundreds, not the tens of thousands.
The famous Al Franken recount only resulted in a change of 400 or so votes, and that involved one of the election officials remembering that she had boxes of ballots in the trunk of her car.
Vote flips during recounts number in the hundreds, not the tens of thousands.
The famous Al Franken recount only resulted in a change of 400 or so votes, and that involved one of the election officials remembering that she had boxes of ballots in the trunk of her car.
shenmue iii man
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Well, looks like a Wisconsin recount is happening. How does this actually work for her? What kind of process is it. I wonder if there is still a chance people are getting bamboozled out of their money.
It's officially over $1.1 million now.
I guess that means a Wisconsin recount is going to happen.
Anyway at the very least it'll be interesting to see Trump's reaction. We'll probably at least get a twitter rant out of this. *gets popcorn ready*
Smiles and Cries
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agreed, worth it
Darryl M R
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Smiles and Cries
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So what does that mean again? I have a right to voice my opinion which is that people donating to this are pouring their money into a conspiracy theory fueled romp. Worse even still is that it's Jill freaking stein.
I am being me. Watching people fool themselves into thinking this actually has a shot is tough to watch. There is a 0.0000000000000000000000001% chance this changes anything. I'll voice my opinion as such
You keep touting the climate thing as if that's a belief of mine. It doesn't play here though, because I don't believe in that. If you saw people pouring money into seeing if it was a hoax, for whatever motivation, wouldn't you say something?
This "prediction" became worthless once actual votes were being tallied.
CNN: "Trump is now leading in all of the states that he needs to win the election."
Prediction model: "Trump has a 80% chance to win now."
No shit
Smiles and Cries
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CNN is going to talk about her raising 1M next 
Read what I typed please! I never said otherwise.
Battersea Power Station
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I'm out of the loop, but why are they not going after Florida? Isn't that the on with mathematical anomalies or something?
Any number of people?
The Chosen One
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Well it looks like Wisconsin is getting a nice $1.1 million gift basket for the holidays. :lol
They're going for the states that typically vote Democrat yet voted Republican this election.
EDIT: Florida goes back and forth.
It'll almost definitely cost them more than that to do the recount, so it's like the gift you don't want.
Smiles and Cries
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how close was Wisconsin? Trump up what 28,000?
Darryl M R
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Is this not through a government agency? If so, then it would be in a specific department. If that department relies on one person for this and that person is out what will happen?
I'm speaking from experience with working with the government.
To ignore that this is Thanksgiving week would be stupid. Thus my original question. Can this be negated by someone just not being there?
Yeah, it ain't changing. This just wastes some people's time.
It doesn't matter if the person that's out handles it, it matters that hte office that receives it is open and receives it. Friday isn't typically a government holiday so some office will likely be open. The deadline can't be friday if an office isn't open to receive it, the deadline would move to the next business day.
yeah. really with 90k votes between all states (michigan being the closest), there would need to be rampant tampering going on at a major level for the three states to flip. stuff that would be obvious. so it's pretty much a big ol nothing.
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
"A lawyer with Stein's campaign told the state she would be formally requesting a recount by Friday's deadline, said Michael Haas, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission. The commission took the notification seriously enough to tell municipal clerks to estimate their costs."
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...11/23/recount-clock-ticking-clinton/94337850/
"A lawyer with Stein's campaign told the state she would be formally requesting a recount by Friday's deadline, said Michael Haas, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission. The commission took the notification seriously enough to tell municipal clerks to estimate their costs."
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...11/23/recount-clock-ticking-clinton/94337850/
Calamari41
41 > 38
That is so many votes it's not even funny. They would have to "find" trucks full of uncounted ballots to swing that. It's not like the first count was done by carelessly eyeballing fists full of ballots, after all. The certification process has *some* integrity.
You're not voicing an opinion, you're bludgeonning people with it add-nauseum. People got your opinion from your vey first post, you're prety much vested in making them change their mind and not contribute by associating them with "conspiracy theorists".
But hey, keep voicing it if you feel better about yourself doing it
At the very least it'll put the conspiracy theories to rest. We won't have another Gore/Bush situation.
Smiles and Cries
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so if this recounts happens can we revisit this 27,257 is what I found google
edit:
Donald Trump 1,409,467
Hillary Clinton 1,382,210
Gary Johnson 106,442
Jill Stein 30,980 WTF did I just do? LMAO
Darrell Castle (Constitution) 12,179
Monica Moorehead (Workers World) 1,781
Rocky de La Fuente (Independent) 1,561
Total: 2,944,620
Total two party: 2,719,677
Total third party: 205,204 (about 7%)
BlastProcessing
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You just summed up Ms. Stein quite nicely, I think.
Not as much as election night did.
that's the outcome i'm hoping for. i want people to know what they're up against instead of thinking it was a conspiracy.
Aaron Strife
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The computer people who were pushing Clinton to do this targeted WI, PA, and MI based on what they perceived as irregularities.
I don't think anything comes of this tbh
Ain't that the truth. Although, think of this as a free subsidy for Scott Walker's state. He's loving it.
Calamari41
41 > 38
If a recount shows that states were off by 28,000-60,000 votes (whatever the current totals are), there would be an absolute crisis and several high profile recounts in every single state that was within 100,000 or so votes. The loser wouldn't accept the result, and rightfully so, for months.
Not only that but we'd have to overhaul the entire election system in this country.
I said it's foolish and it is. How is this not a conspiracy territory? This recount is being touted by a conspiracy theorist first off (the wifi and vaccines are killing our children!). And the actual recount is being held because of some devious Russian hacker mystery man, despite that already being essentially debunked.
Edit- it also is giving tons of people false hope.
The same thing would have happened, people would take home a paycheck and spend it on something.
Smiles and Cries
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If everyone who voted for Stein voted Clinton in WI sheeesh I should have checked those numbers, that is depressing
Did you expect something else from Stein?
The twitter comments right now are as hilarious as usual.
The Chosen One
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I'll laugh if the recount increases Trump's lead.
Reagan's BR
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What a waste of money.
The election is over; it was decided. The electoral college exists for a reason; at times it has benefited both parties. California isn't leaving the union. Faithless electors would only further divide the country and go against the integrity of our system. For better or worse Trump is the 45th president.
Time to focus on what happens next not what has already happened.
The election is over; it was decided. The electoral college exists for a reason; at times it has benefited both parties. California isn't leaving the union. Faithless electors would only further divide the country and go against the integrity of our system. For better or worse Trump is the 45th president.
Time to focus on what happens next not what has already happened.
BlastProcessing
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And no one would trust anyone to do that overhaul. Fucking mess doesn't begin to describe it.
Tired of fucking saying this but
MICHIGAN DOES NOT HAVE ANY ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES.
Stop lumping Michigan in there, that is not changing. Really it defeats his entire argument, Clinton needs all 3, but in Michigan it isn't even possible for it to be hacked.
Smiles and Cries
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So how long will this recount take? Months?
balladofwindfishes
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This has nothing to do with anything you just wrote. Who was even discussing faithless electors in a thread about Jill Stein's crazy recounts?
He's covering all the bases for what the people are hoping for, but isn't gonna happen.
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