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Jimmy Kimmel calls out deceptive Republicans over Graham-Cassidy Obamacare repeal
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I'm slightly optimistic that Kimmel will get through to people most of the late night folk can't, largely because he generally has no interest in this. Bee, Colbert, Meyers, The Daily Show, Last Week Tonight all do a good job of digging in on the problems, but they've been going in for a very long time now and people are used to ignoring them and thinking of them as Hollywood Elite.
Kimmel's angle is incredibly strong because he's been up-front the whole time that his specific personal experience is motivating him. Instead of appealing to broader ideas of right and wrong, he's specifically tying it to the complications following his son's birth. It's not about broader ideals, it's a protective father realizing exactly how vital health care can be. Cassidy screwed up by going on Kimmel's show and creating the Jimmy Kimmel rule, because it legitimized Kimmel and makes it harder to completely sideline him now.
Basically I'm hoping Kimmel will be effective where the rest of late-night can't be, because for him it's intensely personal and not a part of an overall agenda/politics in general.
It's hilarious how Cassidy created the Jimmy Kimmel Rule, and then tried to mock and delegitimize Jimmy Kimmel's take on how his bill adheres to the Jimmy Kimmel Rule.
Good job, idiot.
Damn. Thats great.
Have your family members call. You can as well, they may just ask for a zip code, and actual constituents carry more weight.
I've told a couple, but the majority of my US relatives voted for Trump =/
Baron_Calamity
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I asked mine to not only vote against but to each across the aisle to their GOP colleagues and appeal to their sense of right and wrong
PHOENIXZERO
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You're forgetting not allowing women to decide what's best for themselves when it comes to health care and reproductive rights, and turning it all into a "crusade" about saving babies they really don't give a shit about. The party has built itself around being "pro-life" since the mid-late 70s and it's that which has been a huge factor in the evangelicals that make up around a third of our population.
I think been at least 40 years at this point but partisan shit started to really go off the rails around 20 years ago until the total derailment in the last eight, but yeah.
This is beyond politics / voting lines. If this bill passes people will die regardless of who they voted for.
btw, here is the full interview with Bill Cassidy with Chris Cuomo on CNN
https://youtu.be/tL4D45PTeFw
They would never call.
https://youtu.be/tL4D45PTeFw
It's tricky. We sort of agreed to avoid politics among our family. Most of them are super republican, constantly sharing mean Hillary memes, joking about "where is global warming already, it's cold today!", and supporting the police over BLM.
They would never call.
Baron_Calamity
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Kilmeade is an idiot. You don't get better from Tetrology of Fallot. Its a medical condition that requires life long monitoring and treatment.
Surprise, surprise. That's what they've been doing today.
What a slimeball, couldn't even respond without bringing up "low ratings".
Randolph Freelander
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"We haven't seen this many come out against a bill
"
since Cosby
Lmaooo. I'm half way thru but Jimmy went in.
Edit:
Oh god his Trumps not qualified point it didn't matter is so true.
BoogieWoogie
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Trump firing Meatloaf...holy fuck how far we've fallen.
This is instantly what I thought of. He was channeling Howard Stern. He totally learned that from his time with Howard.
Randolph Freelander
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His name is Robert Paulsen.
That doesn't sound like avoiding politics to me.
Saint Gregory
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I find it incredibly sad that Jimmy even has to go on this crusade for all of our behalves but I applaud him for doing so.
It's amazing how absolutely full of shit Republicans are on these issues. You would think that everything that's happened so far during Trump's tenure would make them take a step back and reconsider if continuing to have faith in their own judgement is a good idea but nope, not yet.
I guess self-reflection is the first thing that goes out the window when you vote for someone like Donald Trump to be president though.
It's amazing how absolutely full of shit Republicans are on these issues. You would think that everything that's happened so far during Trump's tenure would make them take a step back and reconsider if continuing to have faith in their own judgement is a good idea but nope, not yet.
I guess self-reflection is the first thing that goes out the window when you vote for someone like Donald Trump to be president though.
MegaManTrigger
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Jimmy continuing to roast everyone
NullPointer
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No punches pulled and concrete calls to action each time.
Good job Jimmy.
Good job Jimmy.
Randolph Freelander
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Stephen Colbert‏ @StephenAtHome 1 hour ago
Please @JimmyKimmel - stay out of politics. Leave the important stuff to reality TV stars with a knack for bankrupting casinos.
Please @JimmyKimmel - stay out of politics. Leave the important stuff to reality TV stars with a knack for bankrupting casinos.
That's what his family voted for.
Nobody knows.
hodayathink
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They basically need to keep everyone that voted Yes last time and flip McCain. And Cassidy is a friend of McCain's, so Repubs are thinking that plus the fact that they have given this bill more time out in public is enough to flip him. Generally speaking, I think they're right, but until we get closer to them putting it up for a vote we won't know for sure.
Graham is McCain's friend. And they've given this bill less time in the spotlight. Most people weren't talking about this bill at all until Jimmy Kimmel starting talking about it.
dr3upmushroom
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Never seen his show before, but I actually like how he does his monologue without much clapping in between sentences, but why does it sound like he only has 12 people in attendance?
Baron_Calamity
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They need 50 yes votes. Right now they have 2 solid No votes. Sens. Rand Paul, Ky., and Susan Collins, Maine. Lisa Murkowski Alaska is likely a no vote as well despite the attempts to buy her off. So right now, the only way the bill will pass is a tie with VP breaking the vote.
That said, John McCain isn't likely to vote for it either.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has indicated he won't bring it to the floor for a vote without a guaranteed win.
Logically it should fail. Everyone in the industry is against it. GOP Governors are coming out against. I'll be honest. I'm afraid. The current government in Washington is hell bent on doing evil. Once the ACA gone, I probably only have 1 or two years to live. Not long enough to wait out a reverse.
hodayathink
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I knew I should have looked up the friend thing. And they wrote and announced the last bill within a day or two of it being voted on. The Graham-Cassidy bill has been around in some form or fashion since around that vote, and has been a finalized thing for them to publicly debate and vote on at least since they came back from recess, I believe.
Rand Paul was supposed to be a solid no last time, and then he wasn't. So was Heller up until the last minute, for that matter. I think, right now, we can count on Murkowski and Collins as no votes, and we have to hope that either Paul finds his spine or McCain keeps his.
I mean most people who weren't politicians or political junkies didn't talk about this bill because they really thought it was over after the "skinny repeal" effort went down. Kimmel brought this issue back into the spotlight.
They had to buy him off with the promise of a clean repeal vote last time, and that crashed and burned hard enough that it won't work twice. He might well fold for some other reason this time around, but so far he's been sticking to his awful, far-right guns well enough to earn an angry Trump tweet.
AntraxSuicide
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To be perfectly frank, Paul was probably just angling to get an "I voted for a clean repeal" vote on his record to back up his Ayn Rand schtick. That was never going to pass, and he knew that, but he still wanted it on record. Now that he has that, the GOP will need another bribe to get his vote back.
hodayathink
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But that wasn't McCain's beef (that it wasn't in the spotlight). His beef was basically that they unveiled the bill the day it was supposed to be voted on, allowing no input at all from Dems, and on top of that Paul Ryan basically said that if the Senate passed it, he was going to force it through the House immediately so that Trump could sign it. For as much as Obamacare ended up being along party lines in its final vote, it was out there for a long time for Republicans to debate and discuss.
I think we're having two different conversations. I was focusing on the lack of public response to this bill until Kimmel started going in on it.
I'm aware of what McCain's beef is. And this new bill was done in a similar manner to the last one. Hell, they're not even waiting for a proper CBO score before voting on it (never mind the lack of any proper hearings.) Of course his buddy's name is on the new bill...
Whether McCain holds to what he said were his reasons last time is anybody's guess at this point.
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