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John Kerry calls terrorism a "nuisance"...

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Socreges

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http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10284.shtml
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dpatton/2004/dp_1011.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4543714,00.html

"We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance… I know we're never going to end prostitution,” Kerry told Times interviewer Matt Bai. “We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life."
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.
 

goodcow

Member
drudgereport:
POLL: BRITONS FEAR SPIDERS MORE THAN TERRORISTS

http://www.local6.com/news/3800509/detail.html
LONDON -- Spiders are more scary than terrorists -- at least according to a survey of a thousand Britons released Monday.

Household creepy crawlies frighten Britons more than terrorist attacks, or even death, the survey found.

Terrorism only came second on the list of respondents' top ten fears, according to the survey conducted by RSGB Omnibus for Universal Pictures UK Ltd. The survey was based on telephone interviews of 1,000 aged 16 to 55 across Britain on Sept. 22-26.

Another crawling phobia -- snakes -- was ranked third, followed by a fear of heights. Death came in a surprising fifth place as the nation's greatest fear.

"It's not surprising that terrorist attacks came only second to creepy crawlies," said psychologist Donna Dawson, hired by Universal Pictures to comment the survey. "This is because fear of small creatures that scuttle about on four or more legs is a much more ancient, primordial fear, going straight back to caveman days."

A visit to the dentist came in sixth place, followed by needles and injections, and fear of public speaking -- whether professionally or at family events. Fear of debt came in ninth position, beating concerns over flying.

Also listed, other fears such as criminality, failure, ghosts, or even the fear of the future, did not make the top ten list of things that frighten Britons most.

Aileen Coulson, a spokeswoman for Universal Pictures, which commissioned the survey to coincide with the DVD release of Van Helsing, a horror movie featuring Hugh Jackman and Kate Beckinsale, said the findings would provide "some great ammunition for Halloween," adding a prank spider was sure to "put the 'willies' up a friend, colleague or family member."
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Socreges said:
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10284.shtml
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dpatton/2004/dp_1011.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4543714,00.html


Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.

Sarcasm, right? Because it doesn't exactly take a 5th grade reading level to see what he's talking about.
 

Tritroid

Member
Socreges said:
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10284.shtml
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dpatton/2004/dp_1011.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4543714,00.html


Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.
I totally agree.

Of course, Liberal-Age will disagree and slam you to hell for going against "the person who isn't Bush".
 

GLoK

Member
WELL SAID! With the increasing amount of foiled attacks that would have devastated homeland America, I can't imagine how you as a country would get by with a softer leader!





............retarded
 

KingGondo

Banned
I agree 100%. Kerry's views just won't cut it. He has to quit showing the world how weak he is on terror, how much he loves bin Laden, and how flip-floppy he is. USA! USA! USA! How can he expect to win when he gives quotes that are so easily mangled and inappropriately taken out of context?

*turns on Toby Keith*
 
I agree entirely with Kerry. It should not consume the media or the general public. Everyone needs to shut up about terrorism and let the government and military do what they think is best.

I trust Kerry to handle it more appropriately than Bush. We need to act multilaterally, we need a government that won't lie and distort facts for personal gain, and we need to stop being frightened into a vote. If Bush is re-elected, we won't hear the end of terrorism for a looooong time.
 
Kerry called terrorism a "nuisance", George W. Bush invaded a country and sent american troops to die based on lies and misinformation...
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Socreges

Banned
Tritroid said:
I totally agree.

Of course, Liberal-Age will disagree and slam you to hell for going against "the person who isn't Bush".
That's OK, Tritroid. I can handle it. I am strong. Just like George W. Bush.

Liberal-Age (very clever, btw) can try and shut us up and force the most liberal senator, one John Kerry, down our throats, but we don't have to take it. No, we do not have to take it. We are not going to take it. Anymore.
 

Razoric

Banned
Socreges said:
That's OK, Tritroid. I can handle it. I am strong. Just like George W. Bush.

Liberal-Age (very clever, btw) can try and shut us up and force the most liberal senator, one John Kerry, down our throats, but we don't have to take it. No, we do not have to take it. We are not going to take it. Anymore.

Dude I'm borderline republican and even I admit that Bush is a tool.

He fucked up going to Iraq.
He fucked up with his stance on Stem Cell research.
He fucked up our reputation around the globe (more so than it already is).
He can't speak worth a shit (one of the most IMPORTANT parts of being a fucking world leader, you have to be able to talk to your people)

Ugh...
 

Tool

Banned
Razoric said:
Dude I'm borderline republican and even I admit that Bush is a tool.

He fucked up going to Iraq.
He fucked up with his stance on Stem Cell research.
He fucked up our reputation around the globe (more so than it already is).
He can't speak worth a shit (one of the most IMPORTANT parts of being a fucking world leader, you have to be able to talk to your people)

Ugh...



Sometimes being a "tool" isn't bad. :)
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
xsarien said:
Sarcasm, right? Because it doesn't exactly take a 5th grade reading level to see what he's talking about.
No shit. I don't know what kind of low-level reading comprehension skills it takes to see that Kerry didn't say that terrorism right now is a "nuisance", but not everyone in this thread has it.

I mean seriously, the best conversatives can do is to put this kind of imbecilic spin on the things Kerry says?

Socreges: "John Kerry calls terrorism a 'nuisance'..."
Kerry: "We have to get back to the place we were(note for gramatically impaired: past-tense), where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance…"

Nice try, ass hat.
 

Leon

Junior Member
Socreges said:
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.


I think you didn't dissect the quote enough though. I believe that what Kerry means is that we should consider terrorism as a privilege, and I truly believe he enjoys terrorism and would gladly go bowling with terrorists. That's what I get from the quote anyway. Matter of fact, if you look even more closely, he says that terrorism is exactly like prostitution, in that it provides sexual pleasure when you really need it. It says it right there.
 

Ristamar

Member
Eh, I don't think he called it a nuisance. He said it needs to be returned to (read as "reduced") to a nuisance.

Let's try an analogy:

Influenza 200 years ago = real threat :: Influenze in modern times = mostly a nuisance

Terrorism today = real threat :: Terrorism in the projected future after cracking down, increasing security, establishing strong global ties and allies, etc = mostly a nuisance

I guess doctors in years past were criticized for working toward better medicine in the hopes of reducing the flu to being mostly a nuisance? "This doctor said the flu was a nuisance, what fucking tool! It's going to be killing billions of people for millenia to come!"
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
rs7k said:
I don't get why all the Bushies in America insist that he's so great on terrorism issues.... I mean, what can you base this on? His administration is the one who ignored the hijacking warnings prior to 9/11, This is a good read: http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=37892
Oww....the sound of a million conservatives simultanesouly bringing their hands to their ears and chanting "alalalalalalalala" is deafening.
 

Ristamar

Member
Leon said:
Matter of fact, if you look even more closely, he says that terrorism is exactly like prostitution, in that it provides sexual pleasure when you really need it. It says it right there.

Osama gives good head.
 

AntoneM

Member
Socreges said:
That's OK, Tritroid. I can handle it. I am strong. Just like George W. Bush.

Liberal-Age (very clever, btw) can try and shut us up and force the most liberal senator, one John Kerry, down our throats, but we don't have to take it. No, we do not have to take it. We are not going to take it. Anymore.

conversely I'm sick and tired of you conservatives shoving Bush and company down my throat and I'm not going to take it... anymore!

First, what's so great about striving to keep things the way they are, or, if things change, wanting it to be one big sweeping change rather than incimental change that builds on itself and adapts to social change rather than society adapting to it, damned historicist conservatives. Don't you know that it's exactly what Plato wanted and that's what lead him to believe that a militaristic theological aristocracy was the ideal form of government? Ignorant bush-loving fascists.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Jesus.. Bush and his cronies come right out and say that Saddam has links with Al Queda, and now the spinsters are claiming they never said it.

Kerry is basically saying we can never stop terrorism, but we can scale it back to a level where it is not a real everyday threat and he is suddenly soft on terror.

Jesus Christ I wish they would hook you guys up and monitor your brain activity, I want to know what exactly doesnt work right.
 

Socreges

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max_cool said:
First, what's so great about striving to keep things the way they are, or, if things change, wanting it to be one big sweeping change rather than incimental change that builds on itself and adapts to social change rather than society adapting to it, damned historicist conservatives. Don't you know that it's exactly what Plato wanted and that's what lead him to believe that a militaristic theological aristocracy was the ideal form of government? Ignorant bush-loving fascists.
And I suppose you think John Hippy-Loving Kerry would keep you safe at night? The man who thinks we have to pass a Global Test if we wish to protect ourselves, The Land of the Free, when we are in immediate danger? Saddam Hussein was imminently about to attack us. If John Kerry had his way, we would still be pleading with Euro-trash to let us secure the homeland!
 

Xenon

Member
Press: John Kerry what is your stance on terrorism?

Kerry(licks finger and holds it up in the air): Well let me tell you.....
 
Socreges said:
And I suppose you think John Hippy-Loving Kerry would keep you safe at night? The man who thinks we have to pass a Global Test if we wish to protect ourselves, The Land of the Free, when we are in immediate danger? Saddam Hussein was imminently about to attack us. If John Kerry had his way, we would still be pleading with Euro-trash to let us secure the homeland!

He's spinnin' he's spinnin'!

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StoOgE said:
Kerry is basically saying we can never stop terrorism, but we can scale it back to a level where it is not a real everyday threat and he is suddenly soft on terror.
I don't get why it never seems to matter if Bush says the exact same things that they pounce on Kerry for.

I'm also shocked that some of the regulars here aren't able to better spot a bait when they see one.
^^^ Unless they're practicing some kind of counter-bait baiting? HOW DEEP DOES THE RABBIT-HOLE GO?
 

Socreges

Banned
I'm beginning to think that no matter how thick I continue to lay it on, people will buy into it again and again. I guess having people like Cooter, Tritroid, Makura, etc preceding me that feel little differently makes it hard for everyone to distinguish between outrageous sarcasm and deluded sincerity.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Socreges is obviously trying to piss you guys off.

You can't see that?

EDIT:

Oh yippee! Another fantastic tag.
 

Dilbert

Member
Socreges said:
I'm beginning to think that no matter how thick I continue to lay it on, people will buy into it again and again. I guess having people like Cooter, Tritroid, Makura, etc preceding me that feel little differently makes it hard for everyone to distinguish between outrageous sarcasm and deluded sincerity.
Exactly what makes you think that we NEED your "outrageous sarcasm?"
 

Razoric

Banned
Socreges said:
I'm beginning to think that no matter how thick I continue to lay it on, people will buy into it again and again. I guess having people like Cooter, Tritroid, Makura, etc preceding me that feel little differently makes it hard for everyone to distinguish between outrageous sarcasm and deluded sincerity.

Shit you got me. :lol
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I knew it all along! We sure tricked'em good, didn't we Socreges! *high fives*
 
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God, I am so f*cking sick of this. I cannot wait until these elections are over... at least then the tune will change to "how could America re-elect Bush?" which, while not exactly a more palatable song compared to the ones being sung en masse now, will at least be a change of pace.
 

NWO

Member
Socreges said:
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.

"Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from [Osama bin Laden]. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him." -President Bush, March 2002

And America isn't going to be safe under the man who let 9/11 happen and then DID NOTHING to the guy who made it happen.

Amazing how you people get slapped in the face by Bin Laden WHILE BUSH IS ON DUTY PROTECTING YOU and then you HAIL HIM AS PROTECTOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE ONLY GUY THAT CAN KEEP YOU SAFE. Ask those thousands of people that died on 9/11 if Bush is good against terrorists and is good at protecting Americans.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Spike Spiegel said:
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God, I am so f*cking sick of this. I cannot wait until these elections are over... at least then the tune will change to "how could America re-elect Bush?"

I find your optimism...quaint.
 

Socreges

Banned
-jinx- said:
Exactly what makes you think that we NEED your "outrageous sarcasm?"
Need? No, never said that. I just wanted to bring to light in an amusing way (to me, at least) how Republicans have taken such a clearly innocent remark and spun it wildly to their advantage.
 

Chipopo

Banned
Hahahaha...Socreges tries to pull this stunt at least once every 2 months, and at this point I can't blame him. It always snags 2 or 3 people.
 
Sigh, nothing but your typical Republican spin. I really don't see how these comments can be seen as Kerry being weak on terrorism. He has said many times he will not ignore terrorism, and continue fighting, holy fuck I feel dirty saying this, the "War on Terrorism™." What is exactly bad about reducing terrorism to the point where it isn't on a constant rise, and it isn't the major focus of our worries as a nation? I agree with Kerry. I want to return to a time when terrorism didn't overshadow issues that affect our everyday life. Healthcare, education, and the economy. You know, the issues the Republicans have ignored while pissing away the last 4 years in office. If we have to accomplish that by force, and beefing up our homeland security (something Bush hasn't done shit about, but takes pretend credit for)... So be it.



rs7k said:
I don't get why all the Bushies in America insist that he's so great on terrorism issues.... I mean, what can you base this on? His administration is the one who ignored the hijacking warnings prior to 9/11, This is a good read: http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=37892

Not only did he ignore the warnings of 9/11... Since then our airport secuirty and border security are still trash. Our major cities are still lacking the funding needed to fight biological terrorist attacks, while Middle of Nowehere, Wyoming can afford this "luxury." Homeland security at this point seems to be nothing more than a "warning system" to keep Americans and their votes in check through fear. Bin Laden is still running free, while all of our resources have been sucked into bullying Iraq. Yet we continue to ignore countries that are a far larger U.S. threat, and continue to fund/harbor terrorist to a much higher degree than Iraq ever has. Bush is definitely strong on terrorism and homeland security!!!!1
 

Diablos

Member
Dear Bush administration/supporters/mindless sheep:

Please learn how to read. The quote says:

"We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance… I know we're never going to end prostitution,” Kerry told Times interviewer Matt Bai. “We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life."

That quote does not translate to "terrorism isn't a big deal," it means "we need to crack down on terrorism until it's as harmless as gum on the bottom of my shoe."

You know, the conservatives aren't as confident as I once thought. Maybe they won't win this election. Because this tactic is very, very desperate; not to mention it's going to be SO EASY for Kerry to set the record straight on Wednesday, and oh, by the way, rub in the fact that Bush said the closest thing to what he accuses Kerry of doing - stating that "I don't think we can defeat it," "it" being terrorism.

What a fucking fool. Seriously.
 
Socreges said:
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10284.shtml
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dpatton/2004/dp_1011.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4543714,00.html


Frankly, I'm sick and tired of John Kerry's pre-9/11 view of the world. He's simply not strong on terror. American would not be safe under his flip-floppy and "compassionate" leadership.

Perhaps you'd like Kerry more if he called terrorists "folks" and said "We can never defeat terrorism."
 

Socreges

Banned
ravingloon said:
Perhaps you'd like Kerry more if he called terrorists "folks" and said "We can never defeat terrorism."
Speaking of which, Kerry only just now released an ad spot attacking Bush for that comment, weeks after. If Kerry had said likewise, you can be sure that the Bush camp would have needed hours to use it effectively.

It would be interesting to see an advert with Cheney attacking Kerry for using the word "compassion", then followed with Bush saying the exact same thing a day later.

The "campaign trail" is really quite amazing. Even in Canada, I've had more than enough. Not to say that the last few weeks won't be interesting, whether for candor or farce.
 
The word-wringing and complete distortion of context by the original poster and his lackeys here are pretty amazing. Whatever happened to looking for the meaning inside of the existing, obvious context of a message? The people in this thread are looking at the words and generating the context which best serves their agenda.

I see this stuff *all the time* from the right-wing. It's pervasive, from the ground-pounding GOP hacks, to their punditry, all the way up to their leadership players. It's like they won't be happy until misinformation and distortion becomes fact by sheer force of will.

It's disgusting. The American people are smarter than that, and certainly the people on this board are more intelligent than that. If we're really going to improve the civic awareness in this country-a goal that, at some level, all Americans embrace-we need to move away from tit-for-tat distorting and elevate our level of discourse. This kind of deception is more dangerous, in the long run, to our democracy and our way of life than any terrorist could ever be.

Just my two cents.
 

border

Member
You people couldn't tell that this was merely a joke troll?

And yet they continue to call Socreges stupid =)
 
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