RubberLuffy
Banned
JoJo was always villain of the week, only Parts 1 and 2 were short enough you never noticed.
Also Hamon/Ripple sucks and I'm glad it's dead.
Also Hamon/Ripple sucks and I'm glad it's dead.
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable OT What a Beautiful Duwang
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Ivan A Nguyen
Member
Thank you for the response. I'm going to call them by their real names when I watch the show, but at least I now know for sure that I am not mistranslating what i'm hearing.
Booooo this man
I would love if every later part would have one or two hamon users(and vampires, mummies, gods of fitness and whatnot). Caesar was able to manipulate bubbles and light reflection through it so a technique based system can make it less monotonous. Also I don't dislike master-apprentice relationships, and this would be a mean for them to return.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
hamon is mystical kung fu shit and stands are awesome with infinite possibility
Not saying one thing is better than the other, my point was that coming from a perspective where I literally knew nothing about this show, it was really random how hamon was harped on for the first two parts and then *poof* gone. Whatever, I don't really care, the show is still sweet
RubberLuffy
Banned
Araki was right to drop Ripple and vampires. Even he agreed that he'd reached the limit of writing interesting stuff with Ripple. By the end of Part 2 it had pretty much just become a "whatever I need at the moment" power.
JadedWriter
Member
Araki was probably running out of colors of the rainbow for Ripple/Hamon/Sendo techniques.
I will always argue that the lack of continuing Ripple as an extension of the stand is bullshit. As Joseph shows using both of his powers, combining them can have their uses and having crazy ass stands with interesting Ripple applications would have made for even more interesting fights.
Araki should have just said hamon and vampires were the byproducts of some unseen stands and tie everything up in a nice bow. Of course, that bow would be undone with the creation of the spin but still.
I liked Part 2 but I'm glad that Jojo discovered itself with Stands. Stands, to me, are the series and allow endless storytelling potential. Since their powers are often abstract Araki can create whatever ludicrous ability, and convenient weakness, without having to justify it with the universe's internal logic. Hamon was basically Hokuto Shinken from Fist of the North Star where its utility was stretched and stretched until it became implausible. If Araki wanted to create a fight where Disney characters came to life to fight and he was stuck with hamon, he'd have to write a convoluted explanation how the hamon created the illusion of malevolent Disney characters.
I liked Part 2 but I'm glad that Jojo discovered itself with Stands. Stands, to me, are the series and allow endless storytelling potential. Since their powers are often abstract Araki can create whatever ludicrous ability, and convenient weakness, without having to justify it with the universe's internal logic. Hamon was basically Hokuto Shinken from Fist of the North Star where its utility was stretched and stretched until it became implausible. If Araki wanted to create a fight where Disney characters came to life to fight and he was stuck with hamon, he'd have to write a convoluted explanation how the hamon created the illusion of malevolent Disney characters.
Afaik all he needs to do now is draw it mid air which is what he has been doing.
oh, fair enough
I do believe they only show him doing it a few times, I think near the end he does just shout "HEAVEN'S DOOR" and that's that. It guess it was supposed to be implied that he drew it between frames of the manga though.
SolarKnight
Member
Rohan probably just draws so fast you don't see his movements.
...I am only half joking here.
...I am only half joking here.
SoulUnison
Banned
This is how Rohan summons Heaven's Door, now that he's "used to it."
He basically traces the basic outline in the air and the Stand appears from that point.
He basically traces the basic outline in the air and the Stand appears from that point.
Araki did that! He retconned hamon and vampirism into manifestations of stand energy in an extra side chapter.
there's also a fan theory that the Pillar Men "modes" were stands
Sibersk Esto
Banned
At some point the ripple became unsustainable as a storytelling device.
With the Pillar Men defeated, you've basically eliminated the No. 1 thing the ripple had any use against. And you can't really combine both the ripple and stands, because even the most basic of stands renders the ripple hilariously ineffectual.
Plus, if you're going to move towards more modern settings, with lower key scenarios such as Part 4, then I'm sorry but an ancient martial arts style with training arcs really has no place as a part of the narrative.
So yeah, RIP ripple/hamon.
With the Pillar Men defeated, you've basically eliminated the No. 1 thing the ripple had any use against. And you can't really combine both the ripple and stands, because even the most basic of stands renders the ripple hilariously ineffectual.
Plus, if you're going to move towards more modern settings, with lower key scenarios such as Part 4, then I'm sorry but an ancient martial arts style with training arcs really has no place as a part of the narrative.
So yeah, RIP ripple/hamon.
Yeah, I remember reading that some bonus chapter in a SBR volume talking about how hamon and the stone mask were the same kind of 「energy」 or something but I don't know if I'd call that exactly the same. But yes, that chapter felt like him trying to make everything more cohesive in his universe.
Arrowgigantic
Member
What about a really awesome dude wearing a suit made of frogs?
The chapter I'm referring to wasn't really a chapter, just a few pages of text with pictures where Araki talked about concepts in his series and how they related. It wasn't part of the narrative at all. It's as much a spoiler as those author blurbs on the cover are spoilers.
I'm sure it'll never appear in the anime in any form.
Part 7 delivers exactly what you're looking for. Can't elaborate for obvious reasons.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Killer Queen
Banned
That last shot lmao
The last shot. I just can't imagine what context there could possibly be for that. Just, what.
Ofc they would end the PV at that scene.
The scene in earnest is one of the most awkward fuck things I've ever seen in manga. People are hyped for the AWKWARDNESS ALONE... no joke. It's great.
Straizo became the head of the hamon monastery, right? Didn't he kill everybody before beginning his plans to become a vampire?
So Joseph is literally the last person alive who knows hamon.
Killer Queen
Banned
"Would you like to see the full extent of my stands power? Killer Queen really is quite the expansive standu"
Lisa Lisa is still alive, no?
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
This episode is for you, DTL!
if she was still alive, she would be way over 100 by Part 4.
it's so odd how she's never mentioned again after Part 2.
Joseph mentions her when he reveals to Jotaro the Joestars' feud with DIO and the birthmarks
And whenever he uppercuts people, he says her name.
No wait, that's just Heritage for the Future.
She's alive as of Part 3.
Specifically, the manga mentioned that Joseph talked to Lisa Lisa about the Joestar birthmark after finding about Dio's resurrection. So she was alive during SDC or died shortly before it began.
Jotaro mentions at the beginning that Joseph got shredded by Holly and Suzi for having an illegitimate child, and I can't imagine Lisa Lisa not taking that chance either, so she's probably dead by DiU.
Jotaro mentions at the beginning that Joseph got shredded by Holly and Suzi for having an illegitimate child, and I can't imagine Lisa Lisa not taking that chance either, so she's probably dead by DiU.
Salty Rice
Member
Yes we are finally here. That last bit is really awkward but its gonna lead to the best.
6 more episodes left! The finale so close.
JadedWriter
Member
WHAT.THE.FUCK!!!
I never understood you. You're in the manga OT but you haven't read Jojo....
Is Angriest Pat right? Is one really immune to Jojo spoilers due to how visceral your reaction will be once you actually experience what's been talked about? Because this scene indeed has been talked about in that thread.
JadedWriter
Member
I'm in that thread cause you guys are so fun. It's one thing to read a synopsis of Jojo and just a flat out completely different thing to see it unfold before your eyes. I knew about Shigechi's death beforehand but was still disturbed heavily by it. I also pretty much just stop reading certain posts midway so I don't absorb or get spoiled by entire things. I know of that scene, but I don't know the exact context, climax and weight of that scene. I'm now reading Jojo, just not at too fast of a pace. Might finish volume 5 of Phantom Blood today at least.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Holy fuck, that was probably the best PV yet. It looks like they're nailing the Cheap Trick fight.
The Kira scenes, lmaooooo
LucidMomentum
Member
I never eat Arby's but man their new PR is hilarious.
I'm up to the part where they're fighting the guy with two right hands in the desert. Definitely has picked up. I'm waiting for more character development from Jotaro because so far the sword guys has had the most growth
I got to say though, Ceasar's death was some of the best anime I've ever seen. They did a great job.
I got to say though, Ceasar's death was some of the best anime I've ever seen. They did a great job.
AlimNassor
Banned
So far the DiU adaption has been godly. A few hit or miss episodes but, overall amazing.
slightconfuse
Banned
That's interesting but not surprising. Do stands just give you abs?
RubberLuffy
Banned
It's a good adaptation of strong source material