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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable OT What a Beautiful Duwang
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Mr. Smiley
Member
I've figured his opinions haven't changed all that much since he hasn't updated his favorites in like 20 years.
JadedWriter
Member
But that's because Kira is a great character. Watching him be a fucking oddball is quite fun, even when it's tied to a little bit of egocentric sadism Araki still finds a way to have fun with it. Kira and Dio are fun, way better than the Pillar Men for example.
#1 is Josuke, which is like the most unexpected choice
JadedWriter
Member
That's cause it's way better than SDC.
Glass Rebel
Member
Why? He's the best JoJo.
He's the besto though.
LucidMomentum
Member
I work in a retail and they are playing a radio station that I swear played I Want You, Killer Queen, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond in a row.
C'mon guys, it's not even Friday.I want to call in and ask for Roundabout now heh
Someone has to be a JoJo's fan.
Do it.
JadedWriter
Member
Don't forget to request Elephant Talk by King Crimson.I work in a retail and they are playing a radio station that I swear played I Want You, Killer Queen, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond in a row.
C'mon guys, it's not even Friday.
lmao you don't need to tell me twice
Josuke is fucking godlike
It's just weird that an oddball like Araki would like such a straightforward and upright character. My best guess is that unlike Jotaro he's a lot more "fun" and has no shortage of amazing moments
Josuke and Kira are also my #1 and #2 respectively so clearly Araki has good taste. And Josuke is the best Jojo, he's like a mix of Jotaro and Joseph.
"We don't have the radio edit for that song and it's too long. Sorry."
Nah man, that's BS.
Atom Heart Mother
Banned
I work in a retail and they are playing a radio station that I swear played I Want You, Killer Queen, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond in a row.
C'mon guys, it's not even Friday.
a retail store that played ALL of Shine On You Crazy Diamond? holy shit
because Josuke is alot more flexible to write. You can make him cocky, friendly, heroic, etc. Jotaro is just 'cool' and 'hard'.
MillionStabs
Banned
I wasn't aware radio stations put a time limit on listening to MUSICAL PERFECTION
It was a shortened version.
Those 3 songs in a row, it can't be a coincidence.I work in a retail and they are playing a radio station that I swear played I Want You, Killer Queen, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond in a row.
C'mon guys, it's not even Friday.
Ask them.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
For some reason, I feel like I barely know the characters from Part 4. Compared to 3, which was my least favorite part, I feel like I understood and empathized with Polnareff and mourned Kayouin whereas I can't say the same for Koichi and Okuyasu. Maybe because Part 4 doesn't feel as EXTREME as the parts before it (and this isn't necessarily a bad thing). Or maybe it's because this is the first part where I'm watching the episodes week by week instead of binging. It feels like I've watched A LOT, but the inter-character teambuilding was de-emphasized. Is this indeed the case or am I just crazy?
PS Why haven't I seen Okuyasu in a real fight yet?
PS Why haven't I seen Okuyasu in a real fight yet?
NeonZ
Member
I think the main issue with Part 4 is that a lot of character building seems to become irrelevant after it's done - like the situation with Okuyasu's father or the show just forgetting the reason Joseph went to that city in the first place. The cast then is left in a mostly "neutral" position for the next Stand encounter. The previous parts seemed to reference established character motivation and backstory much more even if just to heighten the drama.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Yeah! That might be it. There did seem to be a lot of plot points that just went nowhere re: Okuyasu's family, Koichi's new hairstyle, etc.
chrisPjelly
Member
It's probably because every character in SC had reaaally simple motivations that were ALL relevant and resolved in the final fight. Every Crusader, with the exception of Iggy, just wanted to get rid of Dio, and hence the linear build up to the final fight resonated with each character;s emotional background. DiU is a slice of life anime with every character having very different motivations and development that are only relevant for their respective arcs. The setting doesn't necessitate team coordination, and the open ended "dropped plot" aspects only serve to build Morioh's character as a town. Even regarding the presence of Kira, we still see our main cast living their daily lives and even dicking around with one another (ahem Rohan's house burning). It's not for everyone, but what you feel is lacking in DiU is what I feel is extremely unique to this part.
JadedWriter
Member
Part 4 is mostly a slice of life anime with varying degrees of weird stando bullshito thrown in. I actually prefer this more than SDC because it just seems more fun. Not every encounter is some life or death struggle where you have to decimate your foe. I'd be pissed if Yukako ended up getting Ora'd to fucking death after one episode. You see how she's actually quite nice, though her temper is a bit explosive. People like Kira are fleshed out and you even see him start to care about Shinobu, he's still a smug fuckwad, but he's a pleasure to see on screen. I personally feel the character beats and moments are way more fleshed out in DiU than they are in SDC, but it seems like DiU isn't for everybody. Shit's right up my damn alley though. I honestly don't want it to end. Morioh is a character in and of itself. It seems like an ordinary town till you start peeling back the layers and discover all the fucking Stepford Wives weirdness hiding in the underbelly.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I feel like the odd one because I don't like Joseph as much as everyone else seems to, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy him.
Why wouldn't you request Frame by Frame?
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
SDC is definitely standard shounen fare, but hey these things are standard for a reason I suppose. I don't necessarily find it bad, just a little jarring because it's so different. But different is good, and it's one of the major selling points of Jojo. Chalk it up to me not being a fan of the slice of life genre at all.
I see a lot of people claim that Morioh is a character on its own. Can you explain what you mean? I mean, I understand the claim, but I just don't see it. I don't feel like the town has an atmosphere, culture, or personality. The show's been mostly about a handful of wacky people situated in a location that couldn't be more generic if it tried.
I honestly would love to have double the episodes to watch.
JadedWriter
Member
Both are badass, I just love the quirky intro and guitar riff on Elephant Talk and I think it's Fripp just taking the piss when it comes to song writing. One could also request Neurotica.
You know that filler people like to bitch about? That's the show displaying the quirky characters of Morioh. That's the stuff most shows would keep hidden. You had a hair salon that that altered the looks of people on a whim to make them better looking, a restaurant that healed people through stand enhanced food, some dude that gets turned into a book and donated to a library. Whenever they get a new landmark through a stand battle is Morioh as a town growing and evolving, the place changes throughout DiU and it must be getting done in such an understated way that a lot of people can't notice it. And that's just what they've shown you, imagine what other weird bullshit is in Morioh.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Is it Friday yet?
Can someone make it Friday already?
Can someone make it Friday already?
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Except the town is not changing because nothing seems to have any lasting consequence. Take the restaurant (one of my favorite eps). You never hear about it again. Morioh would have character if you could see that the restaurant permanently affected people's daily lives. You never get to see this. The same applies to the salon except it was briefly revisited for a plot point. By virtue of dropping every plot thread, the town is absolutely NOT evolving. The town is static, but filled with people with crazy powers, 90% of which are caused by the antagonists and are considered named characters anyway.
I get what you're trying to say. Episodes like Janken Boy wouldn't have existed in a more standard shounen. But that's not the town getting its own development. That's just that the next villain of the week is not really a villain threatening the world, but just some random brat (which is fine).
I think I can agree with some of this. I definitely loved the small-town horror vibe from the earliest episodes. That's the main reason why I felt that DIU had the strongest opening to date. But it does feel like that potential was never fully realized and the town never really develops further.
Yeah, that's what JadedWriter means. The daily lives of people in Morioh doesn't change, because it's not supposed to change. People with crazy powers are part of Morioh, they're not people who will change Morioh, they're just part of Morioh.
There's only one character that has actually changed the town as a whole, and that's Kira. DiU is the battle to decide whether Morioh's daily life, its "soul", will be destroyed by Kira, or whether Josuke and the gang can repair the damage he's done.
Now yeah I get if you don't like that, but it's what makes DiU great for me
There's only one character that has actually changed the town as a whole, and that's Kira. DiU is the battle to decide whether Morioh's daily life, its "soul", will be destroyed by Kira, or whether Josuke and the gang can repair the damage he's done.
Now yeah I get if you don't like that, but it's what makes DiU great for me
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
But they're not really. Isn't it only a very recent phenomenon caused by the arrow?
This I get. If you were to tell me that Morioh's character is being a dreary, generic town and Kira threatens to uproot everything, that's something I can get on board with.
And I hope I'm not giving the impression that I dislike DIU. I love it. I just like being critical about it as well
.Lumination
'enry 'ollins
I don't remember that, but I'll take your word for it! So then the town resolving Cheap Trick deserves some credit. In that case, I wish there was more of that!
JadedWriter
Member
Morioh strikes me as a town that's been weird as fuck since the word go. Stands or no stands. Yuya for example would still be the same exact person with or without stand powers and the same can be said about Yukako and Koichi. Yukako isn't some crazy ass stand user, she's a high school girl with body image issues that just so happens to have stand powers. DiU is about the character subtlety.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
But this describes most high schoolers.
JadedWriter
Member
But most of the cast in DiU really doesn't seem to have massive body image problems though, it's really just Yukako and Yukako is legit attractive as well, she's just got too much of a personality disorder, but she seems pretty cool when she's not going off the handle. Yeah she's a high school cliche a bit, but she's still got enough of a personality to make her a character I actually like.
Yukako was partly written in contrast to female characters at the time as well. The Cinderella episode, in particular, I think was partly inspired by the need to draw female characters in specific and perfect ways.
MillionStabs
Banned
Well ya know, there is this stand in part X....
The Right Deal
Banned
The utter despair of this episode being juxtaposed with the name of next weeks episode made me smile, very excited for the finale.
JadedWriter
Member
But Yukako is fine just the way she is. She really didn't need to go to the Cinderella parlor to get attractive. Then again that's probably the point you're making. I actually felt quite bad for her especially when her face was disappearing. Too bad she's just never in the damn show anymore.
Surely this is a joke.
This is Jojo. At this point there might as well be a stand that can change the past, and I wouldn't bat an eye lol
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
I like Yukako. But to say that's she's some incredibly deep character with tons of subtle layers is hyperbolic imo. I feel the same way when people gush over the town's character. But less so after this conversation.
Shmuppers
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JadedWriter
Member
I'm not saying she's deep, I just like her. Yukako doesn't get enough time to get deep, but I like her character enough to want to see her some more.I like Yukako. But to say that's she's some incredibly deep character with tons of subtle layers is hyperbolic imo. I feel the same way when people gush over the town's character. But less so after this conversation.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
There's totally a stand in part 11 whose sole ability is to hide the existence of Half-Life 3 by the way.
Wake up, non-stand using sheeple!
Wake up, non-stand using sheeple!
Jojo is hard to spoil because you can never tell if something is a joke or real.
Like if I told you there is a stand that can make the user a magical girl, or a stand that does nothing but tells bad jokes, am I spoiling a future plot points, or talking random bullshit?
Like if I told you there is a stand that can make the user a magical girl, or a stand that does nothing but tells bad jokes, am I spoiling a future plot points, or talking random bullshit?
LucidMomentum
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JadedWriter
Member
Where the heck did Joseph even find the clothes for this? Did he mug some woman, raid a panty draw or something?You tell me:
