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I marathoned Stardust Crusaders so it didn't drag for me. Didn't have to wait week by week. That's prolly why I like it the most so far.
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable OT What a Beautiful Duwang
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I marathoned Stardust Crusaders so it didn't drag for me. Didn't have to wait week by week. That's prolly why I like it the most so far.
That's kind of why a lot of people like Diamond is Unbreakable though. It's like the Seinfeld of punch anime. It's more interested in having interesting encounters than it is having an ever escalating cast if sickos and badasses that leads to a final boss.
That's not to say they aren't in there though. It just has more to say than showing off how cool its fighters are.Look at this dumb rock? How about some Italian food. Weird baby yo. Etc.
This has been much better than Part 3 so far, and I actually really enjoyed that part. We just got a nice bonding episode between Josuke and Joseph. Stuff like this episode is something we got very little of in the previous parts. Part 4 just seems a lot more personal to me, and I like that.
NippleViking
Banned
Yep. Part 4's so nice. Less grandiose than prior parts, but that makes it just that bit more intimate, and hence engaging, in my eyes.
Look forward to waking up every Saturday for my 20 minutes of comfy Jojo Slice-of-life.
Most recent episode made me sad. It's all a bit tragic watching Joseph so senile.
Look forward to waking up every Saturday for my 20 minutes of comfy Jojo Slice-of-life.
Most recent episode made me sad. It's all a bit tragic watching Joseph so senile.
That's Koichi narrating in the manga, it makes perfect sense for him to say that.
I guess I don't care about the end goal. Like, sure, we knew Dio was the end goal for all of Stardust Crusaders, but Dio still seemed utterly irrelevant for the entire middle section of the story between the first and last few episodes. In a way it's worse, because the show is taunting you with the promise of Dio - who you already know to be a cool villain from part one - but blueballs you for nigh on fifty episodes with way less compelling fights against fodder enemies that exist for the sake of being fodder. I also don't think the characters were all that interesting. Kakyoin and Avdol bring almost nothing to the table, for instance, which really hurts the story because it's hard to be all that invested in them when they die. And so many of the fights, especially in the first half, are just so boring.
So far, the cast of Diamond is Unbreakable is much more funny and enjoyable to be around than the stoic hardasses of SC, and while the fights are fodder, sure, they're done in much more interesting and enjoyable ways. Rather than "here's some fodder enemy that doesn't matter just to kill time between now and Dio", it's "here's some crazy girl who's way too obsessed with Koichi with a crazy hair Stand!" and "here's some Italian chef that Josuke thinks is suspicious but actually he's just making great food that heals his patrons!" It gives the enemies nice characterizations and tells these more personal, smaller stories.
tl;dr, it's about the journey, not the destination, and DiU makes the journey way more enjoyable than SC ever did.
JadedWriter
Member
I loved how even though he's senile he still knows that when some weird bullshit is going on that can't be logically explained it's a fucking stand at work.
"Yo Josuke shit ain't right, it's an enemy stand."
"Shut up you old fool."
The star is just a birthmark. Every Joestar has it. Dio had it in Stardust Crusaders because he took Jonathan's body.
Jigolo
Member
oh yeah, that's right. he put his head on Johnathon's body.
Maybe by the end of the series this will be apparent but so far the urgency in SC helped a lot, and I thought the stands in SC, while not as unique as DiU so far, were plenty fun and made more enjoyable by having to figure out how their stands worked.
Watching SC back to back probably slanted my appreciation of it though.
Not bad for a filler episode. Good thing this show keeps things funny no matter what. 
Without breaks?
Without breaks?
Not bad for a filler episode. Good thing this show keeps things funny no matter what.
Without breaks?
No breaks.
Stardust Crusaders is pretty much Lord Of The Rings with The Fellowship Of Jotaro's Mom setting out on a journey to defeat evil. Diamond Is Unbreakable is pretty much Twin Peaks x Seinfeld with the daily silly adventures of Josuke & the gang going on while there's an ominous mystery looming over the town. Comparing them is like comparing apple and oranges!
I think the reason DIU is hyped up majorly by manga readers is because it puts a lot more emphasis on character than the adventure. Whoever is the big baddie is going to have a ton more depth than Dio ever had.
I think the reason DIU is hyped up majorly by manga readers is because it puts a lot more emphasis on character than the adventure. Whoever is the big baddie is going to have a ton more depth than Dio ever had.
NeonZ
Member
I keep waiting for him to reveal it's all a practical joke
I don't know, based on this newest episode, it clearly seems like his situation was at least exaggerated before. Maybe he was acting or just depressed, but this episode shows him running without the cane, noticing the invisible baby, having no problems hearing Josuke, and even being smarter than Josuke at the end in order to find the baby. Really, Joseph was worse than this in some Part 3 episodes.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Joseph is just in a more proactive environment now. It's no wonder he got all vegetable like after 10 years of sitting around doing nothing. Guy just needs some motivation.
yeah he doesn't even look that old I mean it's only been a few years since stardust. I still think it's all a joke so Josuke will feel sorry for his old pop who is actually a cool geezer !!!!
It's living up to the hype for me, the main crew is pretty varied, they all seem to experience some growth every now and then, Josuke especially is shown to be much deeper than you'd expect thanks to his interactions with Joseph. Yeah the plot stands still at times, but I feel the characters don't, which is great. Character driven narratives can be every bit as good as plot driven ones.
AlimNassor
Banned
Nah, he's got his good days and his bad days. Adventure brings him life. That and he was the focus this episode.
Ten years is not "a few". He's old.
Yup. He was 68 in Stardust Crusaders.
chrisPjelly
Member
Pretty much this, but I also felt the final destination itself was really disappointing. I hate to the shit up this thread with more SC critique, but the way the part kept hammering us over the head with "look how COOL and BADASS Jotaro is" and "DIO DIO HOLY SHIT LOOK DIO" really soured my experience with Part 3
Tragic P1 Dio >>> Overhyped Mustache-twirler DIO
At least most of DiU is honest about being monster of the week and doesn't try to mask that fact. Ah well, maybe SC aged poorly (but not poorly enough so we can treat it like a pseudo-period piece akin to Phantom Blood) so it must have been more revolutionary back then.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Jotaro vs DIO is amazing because DIO tries to crawl into a sewer for safety but JOTARO IS ALREADY THERE. Also Road Roller.
Plus it's preceded by Pet Shop of Horus, D'Arby and Vanilla Ice Cream.
Plus it's preceded by Pet Shop of Horus, D'Arby and Vanilla Ice Cream.
Is there any part of Dio that's actually tragic? He's a born asshole troll and stays that way throughout his human life and can't wait to bump off the Joestars to inherit their fortune. The only thing the stone mask changes is amplifying his ability to troll people, up to and including swapping heads and bodies of animals and humans alike for no reason at all. About the only decent-ish thing he ever does is come to respect Jonathan's prowess as a fighter, which leads to the elaborate plan of decapitating him so he can take his body. He murders an entire boat full of innocents to do that, even.
Dio is capital E-V-I-L evil in part 1 and part 3. The only real difference is he gets shonen villain dumb more often in part 3.
Dio is capital E-V-I-L evil in part 1 and part 3. The only real difference is he gets shonen villain dumb more often in part 3.
Well, he wasn't very well treated by his father, was he? I can't remember specifics, but his father was a drunk. I can't remember what happened to his mother. It's probably not enough to call him tragic though.
I didn't get the impression that he was born evil. I got the impression that his ambition and personality was purely driven by his upbringing, or lack thereof.
Barring the three better JoJo villains, yes.
Also, Dio's upbringing - namely his shithead father - is what turned him cruel and heartless. Then again, the concepts of fate and destiny are real influences/presences in JJBA, so one could argue Dio entered the world born to WRYYYYYYYYYYY.
Speedwagon said it himself before Dio killed George. Dio isn't evil due to circumstance, he was born evil. His dad definitely played a part in this, but Dio is just a really bad man.
That being said, I really like Dio. He's not my favorite villain (Part 4's villain claims that position) but he's super iconic and entertaining.
I don't think he was born evil, but he never even considered taking another path in life. He wanted to be the guy that kicked dogs to death, steal first kisses and plot the murder of the people that felt bad for his situation.
Honestly, that's a lot of the fun of the character: he is so outwardly showy with his evil that you wonder just how far he'll take it when he should be doing something smart instead. He's not deep, but goddamn it if he isn't entertaining.
Dio is the best with being so god damn moustache twirling. I personally didn't like P3 much at all, it dragged on way too long and encounters felt very similar time after time. It just sort of become procedural of everyone eating shit then Jotaro being super cool and saving the day. Everything in Egypt was great, but the rest of the premise lacked urgency because we really weren't given a reason to care about Holly nor the goals of the side characters who were each respectfully boring and uninteresting.
SolarKnight
Member
There are tragic elements to Dio but I really don't think there's enough for himself to be tragic. Pretty sure that as long as he was the son of Dario Brando he'd be a dick even if not necessarily EVIL.
It probably plays better on the page, but the pacing for a few of the fights got really wonky. Did Telence D'Arby REALLY need to be 2.5 episodes long, especially with how much lamer that encounter plays out compared to his older brother?
I watched part 3 week by week and I really enjoyed it.
I have criticisms that a lot of the cast is under utilized like Avdol, Kakyoin, And even Dio but I love it. The good outweighs the bad and I always have a laugh or two almost every episode. I don't think every fight is super memorable, but overall it is awesome!
Also Dio vs Jotaro is the coolest tug of war battle of wits ever.
He was hiding in the sewer already.
He stopped his fucking heart just to trick Dio.
He didn't stop time fast enough and now Jotaro blew a hole in his head!
The only way that fight could have been better is if Polraneff and Joseph did a little bit more and if they again played Soni Chi no sadame like they did for the Kars fight. Just to book end the vampire trilogy.
RubberLuffy
Banned
It should have been 10 or more. Just D'Arby all day every day.
The whole point of Part 3 is for Araki to talk about different locales, have fun with horror movie plots, and have a merry band of assholes go around beating up people. Also, an evil baby is humiliated and a man shows his top class cherry tongue skills. It's a fucking goofy ass road trip where Araki gets to see what ideas work and what don't while having his characters interact with each other. Polnareff and Kakyoin communicate about underwear in hand signals in a life-threatening situation, Polnareff can't find a toilet without almost dying, and an old woman is enraged because Pol is a nice guy meanwhile she wants to murder him hard.
A dog fights an evil bird. An old man cheats at video games. Two brothers with somewhat useful powers managed to defeat themselves pretty much on accident. Jotaro is humiliated, beats a man half to death and gives him a receipt.
Part 3 is amazing.
SolarKnight
Member
D'Arby the gamer was the longest fight in the manga besides DIO, so, uh, kinda overly long there too tbh