what is really the point in "stealing the show"
they probably said fuck it, just have a nice, slow wwe style match at this c-tier ppv because who the fuck cares
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what is really the point in "stealing the show"
they probably said fuck it, just have a nice, slow wwe style match at this c-tier ppv because who the fuck cares
blackaroni
Member
Why did KO lose the belt at house show only to win it back a couple of weeks later? He's spent most of his time in WWE as a champ or challenging someone for a title, right?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'm still wondering if it was supposed to happen. If he drops it Tuesday it clearly wasn't, but for anyone who was there live, did Styles react like he knew he fucked up?
It not being replayed at all the rest of the show is definitely odd if it was planned.
wild wild rice
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Why bother?
Rock/Siri short film/ad
https://youtu.be/ufBLI6bB9sg
Owens was fave to win tho, so maybe one of them got injured?
https://youtu.be/ufBLI6bB9sg
Owens was fave to win tho, so maybe one of them got injured?
It was so weird, I thought they were doing a 3 count/submission simultaneous finish at first.
But then the commentators didn't really mention anything.
MSG is WWE's home arena, due to the construction, the rates for taping at MSG raised skyhigh, so if they're in the tristate they do Barclays or the Prudential center instead.
They try to load the MSG show (the Christmas tour one had Brock in a smackdown tour); but for the recent houseshow attendance is falling.
So WTF is up with MSG? WWE is too poor to hold live televised events there now?
edit: I see.edit edit: some stuff I saw
Unions. It costs too much to do a TV broadcast. PPV is included. They still run house shows there. But Raw and PPVs wind up being much cheaper and just as easy to run at Barclays
To elaborate for people saying "Huh? Why Unions?" If you televise (or even film) an event at MSG, you are forced to hire a certain number of workers at a certain pay rate. If you want to show moving images on a screen, you can't just bring in your own team, you have to hire their AV team for a ridiculous amount. You have to pay their lighting/camera/sound people (even if you don't use them). Anytime you see a concert from MSG, it's a vanity project where the artist (at best) barely broke even
edit: I see.edit edit: some stuff I saw
Unions. It costs too much to do a TV broadcast. PPV is included. They still run house shows there. But Raw and PPVs wind up being much cheaper and just as easy to run at Barclays
To elaborate for people saying "Huh? Why Unions?" If you televise (or even film) an event at MSG, you are forced to hire a certain number of workers at a certain pay rate. If you want to show moving images on a screen, you can't just bring in your own team, you have to hire their AV team for a ridiculous amount. You have to pay their lighting/camera/sound people (even if you don't use them). Anytime you see a concert from MSG, it's a vanity project where the artist (at best) barely broke even
AJ usually wants to have the best match regardless so I'm putting most of the blame with Owens. That guy hasn't had a match I've enjoyed since Battleground 2016.
The Elite
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New York is too good for house shows. Most people I know don't bother with house shows in Toronto. The product is already mediocre so why bother when it doesn't even really count for anything at all?
blackaroni
Member
I understand all of that. What I don't understand is the point of having another title change shortly after MSG.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
When the last-minute smart money came in, it switched to Styles. Kevin was the only favorite to lose who won
RecRoulette
Member
Because the MSG title change was just a one-off gimmick and not real booking? Not sure what's to understand.
I'd blame Owens too, but maybe AJ is fed up too. I'd believe it.
Consistently having the best matches and making shitty workers look like studs has gotten him... a mid card run.
UrbanDandy
Member
She's going over next season.
You know that even if he convinced Vince to give him Nakamura at Mania FOR the WWE title they still would be beaten to being the Main Event by Roman/Brock.
AJ's killed himself to put over Roman, Dean and Shane fucking McMahon in the last year. If he wants to coast then I can't really complain.
this Kota Ibushi v Cedric Alexandre match wasnt far off the shit they do in New Japan tbh. Like, WWE has the talent, and theyve done shit like this or the nxt stuff so we know they COULD do good stuff if they wanted.
Its baffling really, I just dont understand.
Speaking of Cedric, I wonder if he really wasnt signed at this point, he seemed pretty emotional, as if that was his big shot and that was it. Or he's just a good actor I dunno.
Its baffling really, I just dont understand.
Speaking of Cedric, I wonder if he really wasnt signed at this point, he seemed pretty emotional, as if that was his big shot and that was it. Or he's just a good actor I dunno.
Cedric vs Ibushi was amazing but I try not to think about it because of poor Cedric's condition now.
Condition, as in being in 205live, or did something happen to him?
BewareTheBatsie
Member
As someone said yesterday in the Battleground thread, I think the AJ win was because he has that DVD coming out next year and they probably wanna highlight more then just one whole title win so it may have all been done just for a very brief run.
Yeah, 205Live I mean.
The Siri thing has killed my hype for The Rock
Dental Plan
Member
It looked like AJ's shoulders weren't on the mat. Yet no replay was show or anything about it at all. The ref wasn't in the right position.
Very weird finish.
Very weird finish.
TimeEffect
Member
For one, the commentary made no mention of a kayfabe miscalculation. It was just "well..Owens is champ"
Randy Orton could have totally got out of the hole.
They have to climb up and over it, it's the rules.
Probably the worst 'wait... the match ended?' since Aleister Black's debut.
no, I think thats what it was SUPPOSED to be, except AJ's shoudlers were clearly on the mat. Also the count was super slow.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
How is moving to 205 Live seen as a good thing? If you have to move there for "star power" it's like a god damn demotion. Imagine being Metalik or Swann and walking out to see Ellsworth waiting for you
That's not the finish, brother
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Can only speak for Lio, who's said at indy events recently that he wants to be there for money (205 Live is main roster, so he'll be paid main roster money, not NXTbucks)
His temper could be an issue in terms of how long he lasts (he's no Low-Ki, but close), but in terms of people who are going there, Lio doesn't consider it a demotion and specifically wants to be there
UrbanDandy
Member
Jack dude!
Dental Plan
Member
Ahh okay. I wonder if WWE will even say anything about it on SDL. They didn't mention anything after it happened.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
fake son
in 2017
*jason jordan angle image goes here*
in 2017
*jason jordan angle image goes here*
Dark Ninja
Member
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Sorry I meant for moving Ellsworth or Enzo down there with the idea of "star power". Didn't Sasha show up one week and it did nothing?
Just stop making it another brand ffs
wild wild rice
Member
What is the most famously botched ending?
Not counting Montreal Screw Job. I mean like, when a three count happens by accident.
Not counting Montreal Screw Job. I mean like, when a three count happens by accident.
TarpitCarnivore
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slightconfuse
Banned
Jun needs to book Zeus vs Ishikawa already
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