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Someday...he's the next Jeff Harvey
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Someday...he's the next Jeff Harvey
They should have put a Stephanie on the cover looking down on the roster.
Balor will make them Rey Mysterio money. I don't know about Cena money.
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Balor will eventually get a cover. Give him a few years. He is honestly the first guy out of NXT that I feel like will legit have "IT". He come with the ring ability, he came with the presence and that was easily adaptable to the WWE style. Everything that he lacks he can be taught.
It would have been ok if they used Regins. Hell at least Rollins despite the fact that he's a chickenshit champion. He is still the champion. Austin been out of the game since 2004, why in the hell is he on the cover? It just frustrates me that WWE treats their rosters like idiots when they could bring a new generation of wrestlers and a different era. Yet, here we are....Taker came back to bring out that "Big Fight Feel". It's sad when the only wrestler on the roster that's on a hot streak is Cena....maybe this was all according to the plan.
you guys are all convince that Balor is the next big thing...
I might be cynical but i'd say there's a 50% chance he'll end up wrestling Fandango on Superstars.
Talent != success in WWE
He has an accent.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Can your GF say the same? Or is she more of a row 6 type?
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I've got real problems with people who have issues nitpicking why Stephanie was the one to push this new women's wrestling agenda.
I know that Mr. $1000 Suit At My High School Reunion will think I'm full of shit, but infighting like that just stalls actual progress. "Well it shouldn't have been Stephanie doing it" if this was considered and they went with it, it's more delays. MORE waiting. Losing more steam.
I'm glad it's finally happening. I don't care who brings it to the table because it's so goddamned overdue and there's money to be made there.
I know that Mr. $1000 Suit At My High School Reunion will think I'm full of shit, but infighting like that just stalls actual progress. "Well it shouldn't have been Stephanie doing it" if this was considered and they went with it, it's more delays. MORE waiting. Losing more steam.
I'm glad it's finally happening. I don't care who brings it to the table because it's so goddamned overdue and there's money to be made there.
No, but he has that drive that usually leads to success in WWE.
I thought I had missed someone for my ignore list, thank you.
Frecklestein
Banned
best for business edition
Balor is everything Vince wishes he had from Jeff Harvey
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Y'all went nuts for Orton and made his fairly pedestrian match with Sheamus (that he's had over 80 times) fun. Plus you guys ruled for New Day and PTP, the best match of the night.
Everyone is better in NXT compared to the main roster. The only way to really see if they stick is when they go to Raw.
When you protect your roster you get a bunch of guys over, Raw doesn't do that except for a few (and sometimes later than it should) so it's hard to tell who is going to get over or not.
When you protect your roster you get a bunch of guys over, Raw doesn't do that except for a few (and sometimes later than it should) so it's hard to tell who is going to get over or not.
Right? That really was good! Happy for their success. It's been a rough road.
Limited edition comes with 3 versions of Steve Austin including Hollywood Blonde Austin
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Oh, yeah, the crowd loved PTP and Titus O'neil specifically. Mimicking his bark is one of the best parts of the night.
Biggest flop has been Ascension, Emma, and Party train.
But Paige, Neville, KO, Wyatts, Shield, Rusev have all done well as heels or faces.
Charlotte got a good pop at the ppv.
edit:I guess BO is a flop.
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I think Steph doing it was just completely unnecessary. Plus isn't she supposed to be a heel? Pushing for good change in the womens division doesn't fit her character.
It should have just been Paige calling for backup and getting Charlotte, Sasha, and Becky to answer the call. They all technically have WWE contracts already, that's all the explanation it needed.
Dunn's got a lisp. What a hypocrite.
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You're playing right into my hands, pal
Ultimately like you I'm just glad it's happening. The Steph stuff is just a minor pointless nitpick for me.
Mic skills are so important in WWE though. And I am not even talking about Punk's level. Just be decent enough to carry a feud. Does Balor have that? Not from what I have seen.
Wait, when is austin wrestling?
Wait, when is austin wrestling?
I like it. I like that Balor's character has a boss mode.
But I actually think NXT is overdoing it a little. Every not-PPV NXT does is basically a guaranteed Demon appearance. The Demon should be saved for really big matches only, not #1 contenders matches.
According to these folks.. at Wrestlemania Star Bullhorns
Biggest flop has been Ascension, Emma, and Party train.
But Paige, Neville, KO, Wyatts, Shield, Rusev have all done well as heels or faces.
Charlotte got a good pop at the ppv.
edit:I guess BO is a flop.
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Official on the Superstar roster
Paige disappointed, hard. Neville isn't being used except for doing his signature spots, I don't think I have even seen him talk.
KO just tapped to Cena and Rusev is feuding over a women with Ziggler. Wyatt is Wyatt and The Shield weren't really NXT dudes except for Rollins.
Anyway, the way they are treated in one show and the other is totally different so it's hard to predict those things it's my point.
I don't think you know what WWE success is. You want everyone to be Cena? Those don't come very often.
pantsattack
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I hear Hernandez is free.
What bummed me out about last night is Owens losing to stf. I would have taken a roll up, but when a wrestler taps out to Cena's hold....a angel cries a thousand tears. I just hope that dude pulls through because like it or not...he's money and could be one of the greats if the WWE just get over it's adhd.
What? When did I say that?
It's about being over and people caring for you. Having good feuds and stories. You don't need to be the top guy to be successful.
Everyone under the main-event level just blends together, doesn't do anything important or has interesting programs or feuds. That isn't success.
TL
R Being over is being successful and most guys aren't over.What? When did I say that?
It's about being over and people caring for you. Having good feuds and stories. You don't need to be the top guy to be successful.
Everyone under the main-event level just blends together, doesn't do anything important or has interesting programs or feuds. That isn't success.
TL
So Paige isn't over? Divas champ. Wrestling every week. Two reality shows. She's doing fine.
Most of the NXT guys are doing more than fine.
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WWE is more than wrestling, a lot of people stick to only the wrestling. Success is measured so much broader, though, within WWE.
avengers23
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I was thinking about other groups that made an impactful debut. The Radicalz beat down Road Dogg and Billy Gunn, with Saturn, Malenko, Eddie, and Benoit hitting Road Dogg with flashy, high impact signature moves. They had JR clumsily put them over on commentary, and they had Foley put them over in a backstage segment after.
In ROH, Generation Next had a great intro, with beatdowns of opponents, interrupting matches, and Alex Shelley's incredible (and incredibly pompous) "talent on loan from God) promo. That felt like a revolution, like something new.
Stephanie bringing up the women and assigning them to teams with existing wrestlers didn't feel like a change.
avengers23
Banned
Cmon, man. It's such a great gimmick that Capcom jacked it for Street Fightet V's newest character.
What? When did I say that?
It's about being over and people caring for you. Having good feuds and stories. You don't need to be the top guy to be successful.
Everyone under the main-event level just blends together, doesn't do anything important or has interesting programs or feuds. That isn't success.
TL
Agreed with this. One thing I can say about other promotions like NJPW is at least there's variety in the roster. You have main eventers, you have midcarders, you have legends, and you have the super Jrs (who need a make over). WWE roster is all over the goddamn place and it's rather sad that there's no variety. There's no divisions or structure at all. It's just a huge mess right now, especially with Taker coming back and Summerslam looking like a legends reunion. Pathetic.
It's telling how low the product is when being in a reality show somehow matters to a person being over on the main product.
And yeah, most guys aren't doing fine but yeah, whatever. No point in discussing who is doing well or not.
Biggest flop has been Ascension, Emma, and Party train.
But Paige, Neville, KO, Wyatts, Shield, Rusev have all done well as heels or faces.
Charlotte got a good pop at the ppv.
edit:I guess BO is a flop.
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Success : Shield, KO (so far)
Partially successful : Wyatt and Harper, New Day members, Kalisto I guess, Neville, Rusev, Kidd and Cesaro, Corey Graves
FLOP : Bo, Ascension, Adam Rose, every Diva that ever got called up, Rowan, Sandow (don't care what you think the guy is a living trainwreck)
Most likely to flop : Enzo and Big Cass with the inevitable separation angle, Tyler Breeze, Vaudevillains, Mojo, Bull, Dubstep bros, Corbin, Itami (can't speak english)
Most likely to make be ok : Zayn, Balor
I thought that's what we did here. Discuss.
Wrestling overall is pointless in life. We watch and discuss regardless.
avengers23
Banned
For real? I was just joking about it this morning.
Calling Paige a flop is bullshit.
We can discuss a lot of things but you have your mind made up, I have mind and we've said what there is to be said. No point in going in circles saying "he is over" "no he isn't".
Conrad Link
Member
Steph doing it was silly because she is supposed to be a hated heel, but as usual just like Mr. Steph they can't help but get the face pop when its there or when they can do something that gets them credit.
WOMEN WON A WOMAN'S BALL GAME - ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE! THERE IS A WOMAN WHO KICKS PEOPLE'S ASS (including threatening myself, I think I'm supposed to hate her?) BUT ANYWAY ITS AWESOME SO SUDDENLY ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!
It probably wouldn't be as bad if they didn't have to keep reminding us its all thanks to Steph!! Guys, she invented give divas a chance, no one listened, no one cared about women wrestlers until she said no this isn't right and stood up to the world, and also had like, a 400 day title reign or something, probably?!?!!
I agree how someone said having a McMahon do it made it feel 'important' to the crowd, I just think they're overdoing the ITS ALL THANKS TO HER part of it. Like she trained them or something. :|
WOMEN WON A WOMAN'S BALL GAME - ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE! THERE IS A WOMAN WHO KICKS PEOPLE'S ASS (including threatening myself, I think I'm supposed to hate her?) BUT ANYWAY ITS AWESOME SO SUDDENLY ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!
It probably wouldn't be as bad if they didn't have to keep reminding us its all thanks to Steph!! Guys, she invented give divas a chance, no one listened, no one cared about women wrestlers until she said no this isn't right and stood up to the world, and also had like, a 400 day title reign or something, probably?!?!!
I agree how someone said having a McMahon do it made it feel 'important' to the crowd, I just think they're overdoing the ITS ALL THANKS TO HER part of it. Like she trained them or something. :|