Triple H can talk all he wants about training guys to work with bullet points and adapt to things on the fly, but all you have to do is look at Bray Wyatt and see how much being heavy scripted kills a character. He was great in NXT when he was allowed to run with it...but on the main roster he's become stale and kind of entered "feud of the month" mode.
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June UltraViolent Wrasslin' |OT| This is Small Potatoes!
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its the lack of direction and the fact he cuts a promo on raw and smackdown. dude needs to cut one or two promos not 50 billion and cut the fat
Sibersk Esto
Banned
if anything mankind started out a monster and then humanized himself
Look at this fucking promo
openly talks about being married and having children
his character right now is someone who can talk for 15minutes who isn't in the Authority so we can fill time on our 3 hour show
Bray should start coming out during Bo's promos and start verbally beating him down.
"No one likes you. No one Bo-lieves " etc
Finally, Bo cracks and joins the Wyatt family. They can both start beating people down and making them join the flock. No more long, boring promos for Bray, just coming out for beat downs.
"No one likes you. No one Bo-lieves " etc
Finally, Bo cracks and joins the Wyatt family. They can both start beating people down and making them join the flock. No more long, boring promos for Bray, just coming out for beat downs.
True. You have to give people a reason to care about a monster heel type character.
People like Bray Wyatt because he was different at first okay....that worked for a bit...but they never made Wyatt himself look like any kind of thread. He's just another mid-card jobber working a gimmick. Now, if he would have won the Cena feud, or beaten Undertaker for his streak....we might be going down a different path here.
You can train with bullet points all you like, but once you hit RAW it's all scripted. The biggest problem is they only ever seem to write one promo for every character and just re-use it with slightly changed words.
slightconfuse
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this match is great. still baffling how they botched cesaro.
owens/cesaro fued would be great
owens/cesaro fued would be great
Expected it with the rotator cuff injury and all.Friend of mine at the NXT tapings saidSami Zayn is out till 2016.
I pin it all on lack of direction. Man's a good talker, I believe he could do two promos a week and keep it fresh if any of it meant anything or went anywhere. Doing the same two promos a week in service to a feud that no one can properly justify before, during or even after the fact is the problem. And doing that same thing for eighteen months in a row is asking the audience to change the channel.
Heel said:
I don't follow. What do you mean here? That Bray would have worked himself into a different gimmick or that creative would have had something other than gaspy promos to latch onto and write around?
Serpentine
Banned
This shoulder injury is his first major one, he's had it since February.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
wouldn't even have to turn on each other because they would both be injured simultaneously
Because Foley is an amazing promo. And Paul doesn't seemingly get enough credit as a manager, either. Master of his craft evolving into an evil manager.
Bray is a good promo, but you watch that Mankind promo and he hasn't come close to touching that emotion and drama he puts into it.
Again, who knows? I write that with the assumption that a wrestler could have a little pride in their craft and raise hell for a change, instead of riding their gimmick into obscurity. Is that a possibility, or are they afraid to rock the boat? This is an era where the fans can write their own narrative on why their favorite is flopping.
Carnby
Member
Taka is coming, mother fuckers
Hostess bar
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Dr Duncan Steel
Member
Weak-link, something to prove, Bryan was best Bryan. Unfortunately that made him who he is today which is.....well dead. For the moment.
^ This was the best look for Bryan. Just enough hair, just enough beard that makes him look cooler than the what we have now.
The problem is that he just
couldn't
stop
No pop from the crowd, kid's not over.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I don't think anything annoys me in a wrestling match more than bending down to set up a back body drop
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Deleted member 47027
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Weak-link, something to prove, Bryan was best Bryan. Unfortunately that made him who he is today which is.....well dead. For the moment.
This was the best look for Bryan. Just enough hair, just enough beard that makes him look cooler than the what we have now.
Weak link Bryan? You mean current?
Dr Duncan Steel
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Deleted member 47027
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oh stop.
no, angry as fuck insecure, Bryan.
you mean Hell No Bryan?
AJ and Kane did a lot for him. A LOT. Great stuff.
Those were the times of our limitless youth, man. When we shone like the sun only to burn out in a blaze of glory. Yeah, I've seen light, man. I've seen its beauty and I...have seen its reckoning. For to live in the light is to be exposed. To be naked. And when the time comes, we all become like children, crying and embarrassed.
slightconfuse
Banned
can we talk about how good tanahashi looks
You only want this because you probably look like them and could see them in your monthly anime club meetings.
friend.
Both those clips are AFTER Kane got the two over as a comedy duo and right around the end of the weak link era of the team, which is what we were talking about.
can we talk about how good tanahashi looks
Hiroshi Tanashi as Tidus. Kota Ibushi as Squall Leonhart. In the grandest Final Fantasy live action event of all time. Final Fantasy: Mark of a Champion.
slightconfuse
Banned
sheamus just pinned roman
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
Yup all Kane.
Any Japanese wrestler will fit the mold for the gimmick they have in mind
If they could find a fit Samoan he'd do as well.
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Deleted member 47027
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Kane and AJ deserve a lot more credit for getting little Danny Bryan over than they receive. Bryan's heel run was really wonderful and gave people easy ways to cheer for him when he flipped. It was great work.
Perspicacity
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I still maintain that angle should have finished with AJ vs Bryan
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Deleted member 47027
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Not pictured!
But, i can't stop looking at ibushi!can we talk about how good tanahashi looks
Seriously though, he looks good.
No because
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yeah, looks like I'm getting tickets for threemendous and BOLA.
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Deleted member 47027
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Ibushi, looks wise (not to mention his youth) definitely outweighs Tanahashi in marketability. He's fantastic looking.