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June UltraViolent Wrasslin' |OT| This is Small Potatoes!

klonere

Banned
Honestly I was thrilled - THRILLED to see Ryback's post-surgery return this year and he was over as hell. I think even he was surprised. Then we had the #RealityEra happen and he got that Secret promo, and it really helped. I'm glad he's been saved in some form.

That was a weird Raw where they just let him cut a promo like that out of the blue. It was great! I know it was meant to lead into Rusev feud which got canned in favour of the Cena one but still, it totally established his babyface character. Cesaro did botch his a bit but goddamnit if you watch those Attitude Era Raws people stumble over words, get all tongue tied, whatever.

Hell Cesaro built his character really well here in this post Payback promo (WWE.com of course can't show this shit on TV!), he's a hard worker, he's a professional and he won't stop trying etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1cxcppBGQ0

Promos and how they are used are far more of a problem than Cena is.
 

kiguel182

Member
That was a weird Raw where they just let him cut a promo like that out of the blue. It was great! I know it was meant to lead into Rusev feud which got canned in favour of the Cena one but still, it totally established his babyface character. Cesaro did botch his a bit but goddamnit if you watch those Attitude Era Raws people stumble over words, get all tongue tied, whatever.

Hell Cesaro built his character really well here in this post Payback promo (WWE.com of course can't show this shit on TV!), he's a hard worker, he's a professional and he won't stop trying etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1cxcppBGQ0

Promos and how they are used are far more of a problem than Cena is.

You don't get it.

That promo wouldn't work because he is swiss. You don't know the business.
 

Kaladin

Member
I've got to learn to stop looking at OT religious and political threads. Gaf is so far to the left...even my own middle of the road beliefs can often be wrong by popular opinion here. And the whole we're right and everything else is wrong sentiment is starting to drag me down.
 

Sephzilla

Member
I've got to learn to stop looking at OT religious and political threads. Gaf is so far to the left...even my own middle of the road beliefs can often be wrong by popular opinion here. And the whole we're right and everything else is wrong sentiment is starting to drag me down.

The general rule should be to never talk politics or religion on the internet
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I've got to learn to stop looking at OT religious and political threads. Gaf is so far to the left...even my own middle of the road beliefs can often be wrong by popular opinion here. And the whole we're right and everything else is wrong sentiment is starting to drag me down.

One time I suggested that I liked Clinton more than Sanders and a bunch of dudes got mad at me for not supporting a "true socialist," i.e. they were mad because they believed I didn't look into the fact that Sanders is a self-declared socialist because obviously that's who I would vote for if I only knew about it.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Friend jmdajr, if you're going to watch patriotic movies on America's Independence Day the only movie you need to watch is Independence Day.
 

Cagey

Banned
One time I suggested that I liked Clinton more than Sanders and a bunch of dudes got mad at me for not supporting a "true socialist," i.e. they were mad because they believed I didn't look into the fact that Sanders is a self-declared socialist because obviously that's who I would vote for if I only knew about it.
It's a Dunning-Kruger powered echo chamber of college kids and post grads of stunningly mediocre intelligence that have found similarly minded, similarly able folks similarly suffering from overrating their abilities. They gear their posts and opinions to fit whatever the dominant group opinion favors because that gains standing. On top of that, you get several repeat players dominating conversation by the force of their posting frequency.

Ignore lists and super ignore are the best. On Chrome there are threads where 15 posts on a page are missing for me. It's wonderfully peaceful.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
It's a Dunning-Kruger powered echo chamber of college kids and post grads of stunningly mediocre intelligence that have found similarly minded, similarly able folks similarly suffering from overrating their abilities folks. They gear their posts and opinions to fit whatever the dominant group opinion favors because that gains standing. On top of that, you get several repeat players dominating conversation by the force of their posting frequency.

Ignore lists and super ignore are the best. On Chrome there threads where 15 posts on a page are missing for me. It's wonderfully peaceful.

Super ignore is dangerous. I use it and people I've never spoken to before are on there and I can't figure out why.
 

RP912

Banned
The general rule should be to never talk politics or religion on the internet

Live by the code....

Because man...there is no such thing as a reasonable discussion nowadays. It's either you are with us or against us. Shoot it really sucks being religious and folks trying to crucify you because of the stereotypes that come with being a Christian.

Bottom line, I know my limitations on not only GAF, but on the internet in general.
 

jmdajr

Member
Friend jmdajr, if you're going to watch patriotic movies on America's Independence Day the only movie you need to watch is Independence Day.

I just looked at my Vudu account and somehow I own Independence Day! I'm pretty happy now! I think it was a freebie when I signed up!

Anyhow I think the crowd coming over would appreciate that more than say The Great American Bash or Wrestlemannia 7
 

jmdajr

Member
Live by the code....

Because man...there is no such thing as a reasonable discussion nowadays. It's either you are with us or against us. Shoot it really sucks being religious and folks trying to crucify you because of the stereotypes that come with being a Christian.

Bottom line, I know my limitations on not only GAF, but on the internet in general.

I feel that the political stuff is now invading videogames. And I don't just mean "is this game too violent for kids."
 

RP912

Banned
I feel that the political stuff is now invading videogames. And I don't just mean "is this game too violent for kids."

To be fair...political stuff always been apart of video games since the blood code for Mortal Kombat. As far as video games becoming depressingly political....then I agree. I lone for the days where the only reality based thing on a video game was the "Losers take drugs" slogans in the opening screen of arcade games.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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kiguel182

Member
I feel that the political stuff is now invading videogames. And I don't just mean "is this game too violent for kids."

To be fair...political stuff always been apart of video games since the blood code for Mortal Kombat. As far as video games becoming depressingly political....then I agree. I lone for the days where the only reality based thing on a video game was the "Losers take drugs" slogans in the opening screen of arcade games.

Why shouldn't political stuff be allowed in video-games?
 

RP912

Banned
I'm assuming he died?

Career wise yes...but I think he's still around.

Why shouldn't political stuff be allowed in video-games?

I don't mind political stuff like on the level of a Tom Clancy/Civilization game...I mean industry wise which is no different from entertainment in general. I feel that way when WWE did their version of a "rock the vote" type of segment. It's too draining to see politics and drama going on in the video game world.
 
Oh man, I'm so tired of Political/Social Commentary threads about video games now. I have no interest in it, I just want to switch off & play the game.
 

klonere

Banned
Career wise yes...but I think he's still around.



I don't mind political stuff like on the level of a Tom Clancy/Civilization game...I mean industry wise which is no different from entertainment in general. I feel that way when WWE did their version of a "rock the vote" type of segment. It's too draining to see politics and drama going on in the video game world.

you can just not play the "political videogames". and avoid the "political videogames" discussion!
 

jmdajr

Member
Why shouldn't political stuff be allowed in video-games?

I mean have it it freedom and all. I just find it annoying that your escape outlet now has to be poisoned too. Granted a lot of that shit is opinion and if you stay off the web you can make up your own mind.

edit: I guess this is what happens when "adults" don't give up videogames.
 
I mean have it it freedom and all. I just find it annoying that your escape outlet now has to be poisoned too. Granted a lot of that shit is opinion and if you stay off the web you can make up your own mind.

edit: I guess this is what happens when "adults" don't give up videogames.

I keep hearing politics is poisoning video games as a line, but I've never run into one. An example?
 

Oersted

Member
I feel that the political stuff is now invading videogames. And I don't just mean "is this game too violent for kids."

Mate, Metal Gear, Tom Clancy, Call of Duty, friggin Age of Empires, Battlefield. It was always around. We are just becoming aware, thats about it.

But lets leave it out.
 

RP912

Banned
Fuck it...Top 5 Political type of games.

1. Soviet Strike
2. Command and Conquer Red Alert 2
3. Civilization 5
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Brink (it technically had a political message)
 

jmdajr

Member
I keep hearing politics is poisoning video games as a line, but I've never run into one. An example?

I don't think games are trying to be overtly political. I think most developers still just want to make basic fun games. Bad guys vs good guys. Simple stuff.

To me it's more the politicizing of videogames. Saying every game has an agenda.
 

Oersted

Member
I don't think games are trying to be overtly political. I think most developers still just want to make basic fun games. Bad guys vs good guys. Simple stuff.

To me it's more the politicizing of videogames. Saying every game has an agenda.

Mind you, its not always on purpose, but bad guys vs. good guys is already an agenda, lol. Which only goes further if you give them traits, like the baddie is islamist or something.
 

kiguel182

Member
I don't think games are trying to be overtly political. I think most developers still just want to make basic fun games. Bad guys vs good guys. Simple stuff.

To me it's more the politicizing of videogames. Saying every game has an agenda.

Yeah, but that's the fault of your reductive vision of the medium.

I want games to be about more than "bad guys vs good guys". I want them to be used to more than to just be "escapism". I want games to have no limits whatsoever.

In the end, you'll always have your "fun, escapist" games like you have fun and escapist movies, books and movies but that doesn't mean it's all it has to be. And nobody should demand that. Games can be whatever they want to be.
 

jmdajr

Member
Yeah, but that's the fault of your reductive vision of the medium.

I want games to be about more than "bad guys vs good guys". I want them to be used to more than to just be "escapism". I want games to have no limits whatsoever.

In the end, you'll always have your "fun, escapist" games like you have fun and escapist movies, books and movies but that doesn't mean it's all it has to be. And nobody should demand that. Games can be whatever they want to be.

I must be at fault for many things then.
 
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