Oh my god, Andre's NJPW theme is amazing
Like it's 80s monster defined. This is going to be in my fave five themes from now on.
Like it's 80s monster defined. This is going to be in my fave five themes from now on.
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June Wrasslin' |OT| Layin' the law, once again, prepare for war. C! Z! W!
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QueenOfThorns
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I think the Network is awesome, but I'm definitely holding off on watching any WCW ppvs from 1995 forward until I can watch all the Nitros leading up to them. That and Nitro just flat out was better than their PPVs most of the time.
Can I be honest? I find real sports boring. Like some seem like they'd be fun to play, but I don't want to watch people doing it. Wrestling however is exactly what I want.
And yeah, WWE is in kind of a lull right now, but it looks like that happens every now and then so I don't see the big deal. If it's bothering anyone a lot just stop watching until they do something that gets everyone reeled in again. Watch NXT and play some video games.
I keep thinking that's going to break out into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXftk1tJzw
Can I be honest? I find real sports boring. Like some seem like they'd be fun to play, but I don't want to watch people doing it. Wrestling however is exactly what I want.
And yeah, WWE is in kind of a lull right now, but it looks like that happens every now and then so I don't see the big deal. If it's bothering anyone a lot just stop watching until they do something that gets everyone reeled in again. Watch NXT and play some video games.
I keep thinking that's going to break out into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXftk1tJzw
bean breath
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McMahon should find a way to make the WWE Network more accessible to his target demographic, like:
-Using an EBT card to subscribe and pay.
-Using Coin Star kiosks to convert loose change into WWE Network credit.
-Working with public libraries so they're open during WWE Live Special Events and allowing people to combine their internet access time together to watch the entirety of the 3 hour event.
-Using an EBT card to subscribe and pay.
-Using Coin Star kiosks to convert loose change into WWE Network credit.
-Working with public libraries so they're open during WWE Live Special Events and allowing people to combine their internet access time together to watch the entirety of the 3 hour event.
dream
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Projected losses of $52 million, Network subscriptions have plateaued, saddled with a terrible television deal so bad that they didn't even publicly reveal the numbers, 0 potential for growth within their core business...
While I wholeheartedly agree with you, it is sort of weird how that works. Imagine people going "yeah, Game of Thrones kind of sucks some times, so just watch Sillicon Valley for a while until episode 9 when something happens again."
Show would be cancelled in a heartbeat.
Kind of hard to say anything has plateaued after 4 months. The television deal is better than the deal they had, which was pretty ridiculous to begin with. It just isn't as good as they had hoped for.
dream
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But Vince is unable to accept that his target demographic is uneducated and impoverished. If anything, he'll put the production of WrestleMania 32 on Kickstarter because WWE can't afford to produce the show, then be shocked when he can only raise $3,000, paid to WWE on the first of the month when the welfare checks come in.
Estimated losses at a price they can still increase a few bucks and a worldwide launch still upcoming and a TV deal that wasn't as much as expected, but still above what they were getting last year.
WWE isn't going anywhere and losses on the Network were estimated from the get go and the company can easily carry at this point.
But please, GAF hyperbole must hyperbole.
QueenOfThorns
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Yeah. I think it's just a consequence of there not being an off season, so they only really bring their A game to SummerSlam and WM, with varying quality in between. It'd be cool if they could take like a 3 month break or something after every WM and just show NXT instead, but that'll never happen haha.
Asia understands. Here's a shot from Indonesia this morning:
Here's a shot from Japa-oh god
bean breath
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Would it be an SEC violation for Michael Cole to walk the audience through the process of purchasing WWE stock during Raw?
British Monsoon
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I'm real glad the Brahmans toned it down.
dream
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I don't know, strobogo. Do you really think there are more than 600,000 people in the world who are willing to pay $10/mo for "WWE Hell in a Cell," "Legends House," and "NXT?" I do not.
Macho Madness
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If anyone is saying they're doomed, they're a moron. But, the Network is a gigantic blunder so far with limited growth potential. That is what I think a lot of people are saying. Core business (attendance, ratings) is fine though, so they will be fine.
There is no reason not to assume that adding Europe and Canada at the end of the year won't add another 300 to 400k to put them at 1 million worldwide. At worst they increase the price point, which for these subscribers won't matter since they'd subscribe either way.
Then I'm sure they'll add a few more each year from the Rumble to Mania to increase to at least 1,5 million over the course of several years.
Not saying this will happen, but this scenario is just as likely as them capping at 600k forever because that's the number they have after a few months where people were unsure if the Mania stream would even hold up.
Then I'm sure they'll add a few more each year from the Rumble to Mania to increase to at least 1,5 million over the course of several years.
Not saying this will happen, but this scenario is just as likely as them capping at 600k forever because that's the number they have after a few months where people were unsure if the Mania stream would even hold up.
Way to put yourself out there.
I agree about MMA being boring. At least it is to me. I totally respect other people's right to enjoy whatever they want to enjoy. Even if I think it's boring.
bean breath
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What was the title of that new book about the history of Nintendo? I read an excerpt somewhere and forgot that I wanted to read it for free when my library gets a copy.
Terms for wrestling that would be better than "sports entertainment":
-athletic/sports theatre
-sports/athletic drama
"That's what athletic theatre is all about!"
"The WWE has been doing sports drama better than anyone out there for years."
Or something.
Mr. Luchador
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Sonofabitch
I think you may have a point, friend. The same people using grating Nintendo abbreviations like "Ninty," "Shiggy" and "Bayo" are likely the same people who say things like "Ziggy" when referring to enhancement talent right here in WrassleGAF.
bean breath
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Action Soap Opera.
Console Wars?
Halfway-through and it's more about Sega so far, but maybe that'll change. It's quite cleverly written though, in a sort of third person narrative novel style mostly from the perspective of the then-CEO of SOA Tom Kalinske. Quite enjoying it.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Friend bean breath, what do you think of Mother England's performance in its match so far?
WWE is good for anyone who isn't a shareholder (or hates Cena lol). They invested a lot, they survived, and they are stable. It's just that wall street people hate stability, to them this is stagnant. I still think Vince knew he was going to con them out of their money and the stocks would plummet right after.
Shareholders lost money. He invested. He told people it was a short term investment to get greedy people to donate money while it was a long term. He is a wrestling promoter; if there is one skill he has in this world is telling lies.
Edit: We think Paul Heyman cutting promos on Brock Lesnar is good? Imagine when Vince put him to sell that the Network would be profitable in one year?
"Ladies and gentleman. My name is Paul Heyman and I'm here to announce that my client, the World Wrestling Entertainment has just released this report claiming there are five million households who are, at this moment, sympathetic to our product. I'm not telling you that those five million households will translante in five million subscription; but the key here is: five million. World Wrestling Entertainment has over five million fans just waiting for this service and we need only a fraction of these five million fans to profit by next year"
Shareholders lost money. He invested. He told people it was a short term investment to get greedy people to donate money while it was a long term. He is a wrestling promoter; if there is one skill he has in this world is telling lies.
Edit: We think Paul Heyman cutting promos on Brock Lesnar is good? Imagine when Vince put him to sell that the Network would be profitable in one year?
"Ladies and gentleman. My name is Paul Heyman and I'm here to announce that my client, the World Wrestling Entertainment has just released this report claiming there are five million households who are, at this moment, sympathetic to our product. I'm not telling you that those five million households will translante in five million subscription; but the key here is: five million. World Wrestling Entertainment has over five million fans just waiting for this service and we need only a fraction of these five million fans to profit by next year"
The tag team of dinguses.
You two deserve each other. Dingus is as Dingus posts
I've made peace with the fact that I don't have to watch every single minute of every single program of every single promotion. If it's bad, it's bad, and I'll just read reports or listen to podcasts on the bus to keep up to date with what's going on, but without feeling the need to waste my time watching it.
I didn't watch Impact on Thursday. I'm not going to watch Raw on Monday. And I'm totally okay with that. In the meantime, I've got other wrestling promotions and styles to keep me entertained. (ROH, Dragon Gate, and random Japanese matches from the past that I'm educating myself on)
Pro wrestling has such a vast history now, that if you're not feeling the current product, you can still go back and watch something awesome from wrestling's history to remind you of how great it can truly be.
Plus, there's the World Cup right now.
I'm a soccer and hockey fan, so I love me some World Cup.bean breath
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Alright innit?
lovely ladies
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lovely ladies
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Did you read that one? If so, how is it? Console Wars is pretty entertaining, I think some of it's a little embellished though. I know there's supposed to be an upcoming movie about it and it kinda seems like you're reading a movie script.Are you talking about this oldie, or a newer one?
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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No m8 ;_;
I have a copy with this cover, but I've never actually read it.
I think my mom or dad found it for me at some point when I was a kid, but I never got around to reading it.
Here's a rare, complete match-by-match rundown of SummerSlam '92:
- LOD vs. Money, Inc.: I expected an okay match and it disappointed.
- Nailz vs. Virgil: Nailz' finisher was hilarious. Bad match, of course.
- HBK vs. Model: I was on board until the sucky finish.
- Disasters vs. Beverlys: Decent match. I've come to appreciate both of these teams more than ever before (Disasters: pretty good; Beverlys: not terrible).
- Crush vs. Repo Man: Not the worst thing ever and I was expecting the worst thing ever.
- Warrior vs. Savage: Surprisingly bad. The storyline around it was also a mess. And so, so long. Ugh.
- Undertaker vs. Kamala: No.
- Hart vs. Bulldog: Good match. I was expecting more. The crowd was annoying.
C-, baby.
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Destiny Multiplayer is fun
YES. SS with guest host Strobogo coming up
You're nearing Bean Breath territories of cunty lately.
Stro, who are your top five most annoying gimmick posters? (which basically includes everyone in this thread since we're all working in some way)