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June Wrasslin' |OT| Layin' the law, once again, prepare for war. C! Z! W!
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Yes, but he is mean backstage.
And he says mean things about not being pushed on twitter.
So the fans will have to quiet down, because teaching Ziggler how to be humble takes priority.
Saying "mean" is disingenuous. He says dumb shit. If you stood up at a company party and started yelling about how you should get a promotion do you really think your employers would reward that? Granted, a certain amount of it is out of his control, but most other guys that have put their heads down and just put in work usually get rewarded in some way. Cesaro and Bryan are two recent examples. Cesaro didn't start whining on social media when he had to yodel, he just kept going out and putting on good performances and eventually things started to work out for him.
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Glad you enjoyed it. Thought I linked Ibushi vs Okada though...those two have great chemistry.
I've honestly never seen anything impressive from Tatsu from Japan. He felt like a middle-tier talent, nothing really worth watching - but if anyone can find something good to see (hell, I saw a Greg Valentine match that was good once) it'll be Boots.
Yes, but he is mean backstage.
And he says mean things about not being pushed on twitter.
So the fans will have to quiet down, because teaching Ziggler how to be humble takes priority.
In a way I don't blame ziggler for expressing his mind on the subject of not getting a push, but dude pushes buttons hard. At least Phillip Brooks knew when to shut up. Ziggler is amazing in the ring but eventually you got to adapt to a shit sandwich until you get caviar.
Ziggler flippetyflops really well.
He utterly sucks on the mic, and is a mediocre wrestler in anything other than overselling moves.
He's enhancement talent and that's as far as he's gonna go unless he dramatically changes how he works matches and suddenly becomes an interesting guy to listen to.
He utterly sucks on the mic, and is a mediocre wrestler in anything other than overselling moves.
He's enhancement talent and that's as far as he's gonna go unless he dramatically changes how he works matches and suddenly becomes an interesting guy to listen to.
Also helped that he could yodel like a mofo.
Ibushi vs Okada tomorrow then!
plagiarize
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One of the best ways to get over in the WWE is to embrace whatever wacky shit they make you do. You don't have to watch much of the product to know that.
Highlight of the night for me. The matches seemed longer than usual last night. Good thing we ended with such a savage AA onto the padded stretcher. Kane looked so comfortable there was no way he wanted to get up from that.
A few thoughts from Raw after catching up on YouTube:
Star Dust could be great. Cody seems really in to making it work and him getting to be a weirdo should be a lot of fun. My one reservation about it is the commentary team. They couldn't even go the first night without constantly saying its Cody in face paint. They can't control themselves from basically saying "look at this stupid asshole" and it kills any momentum before it gets going.
I also finally figured out what I really dislike about Cena. Well, there is a lot of shit about Cena to hate, but the part that bugs me most is that not always both outsmarts his opponents and outpowers them. Even if I had never seen a Cena feud before I could never believe he's actually in peril because his opponent never gets the upperhand for long enough to make it believable. Kane looked like a fucking idiot last night and the Wyatts have looked like 1960's Batman henchmen the entire feud. Actually, now that I think about it, Cena should get BAM! and BLAT! popping on screen during his matches. That would be far more entertaining than what we get now.
Star Dust could be great. Cody seems really in to making it work and him getting to be a weirdo should be a lot of fun. My one reservation about it is the commentary team. They couldn't even go the first night without constantly saying its Cody in face paint. They can't control themselves from basically saying "look at this stupid asshole" and it kills any momentum before it gets going.
I also finally figured out what I really dislike about Cena. Well, there is a lot of shit about Cena to hate, but the part that bugs me most is that not always both outsmarts his opponents and outpowers them. Even if I had never seen a Cena feud before I could never believe he's actually in peril because his opponent never gets the upperhand for long enough to make it believable. Kane looked like a fucking idiot last night and the Wyatts have looked like 1960's Batman henchmen the entire feud. Actually, now that I think about it, Cena should get BAM! and BLAT! popping on screen during his matches. That would be far more entertaining than what we get now.
funkystudent
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Couldnt be arsed with RAW. Went to bed.
I missed stardust and whatever the fuck that thread that is pined in the OT was. Bummer.
I missed stardust and whatever the fuck that thread that is pined in the OT was. Bummer.
Bravo.
Cena man. Even Hulkamania was never this powerful.
You mean you can't believe the guy who's "worst year ever" involved headlining Mania, winning Money in the Bank and beating Brock Lesnar clean would ever lose against midcard talent like THE DEMON KANE? I am SHOCKED!
Nocturnowl
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I kind of feel Stardust should use a different colour scheme to Goldust, otherwise i'm on board for this and really want it to be an actual thing for Cody because gimmick Cody is best Cody.
Good Guy Glenn showing his age, he needs his breathers every now and then match losses be damned.
I don't think WWE understand what "DEMON" is supposed to entail.
Good Guy Glenn showing his age, he needs his breathers every now and then match losses be damned.
British Monsoon
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Jumbo Tsuruta vs Dick Slater - Champion's Carnival FINAL - (AJPW 1980/05/01)
He wasn't even out of his young lion phase when he left for WWE, so we never really got to see the best of him - he had a real good match with Koji Kanemoto in the 2006 G1, but I can't find a link, unfortunately. Most of his better matches were tagging with Tanahashi or Nagata, but try these matches against Shinsuke and Goto.
He wasn't even out of his young lion phase when he left for WWE, so we never really got to see the best of him - he had a real good match with Koji Kanemoto in the 2006 G1, but I can't find a link, unfortunately. Most of his better matches were tagging with Tanahashi or Nagata, but try these matches against Shinsuke and Goto.
I know how futile it is to whine about "lol Cena wins" at this point, but when it literally drags down every other aspect of the product it's unavoidable. I'm usually pretty good about ignoring it, but every six months or so it climaxes and I get really discouraged.
Sibersk Esto
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Some people in the comments are claiming he's ripping off Willow. Absolutely disgusting.
This clip looks like something special friends, should I watch Raw? I recorded it just in case.
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Awww shit, Dirty Dick. Watch Later it is.
Arrowgigantic
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I can think of one move Cody will definitely keep.
lol wat
TNA fanbase.
British Monsoon
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Apparently Ian Rotten says Matt Sydal (Evan Bourne) will be in the 2014 IWA-MS Ted Petty Invitational tournament this September. Gonna be great to have Sydal back on the indies, hope he wrestles Danny Cannon and other flippy dudes who have been making a name for themselves since Sydal left.
It's not the best Jumbo match you'll ever see, but Slater's damn great at heeling it up and getting the crowd going against him.
It's not the best Jumbo match you'll ever see, but Slater's damn great at heeling it up and getting the crowd going against him.
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I can't remember if I asked this or not, because I was going to then people got fired, but:
Who from WWE would you love to see fired...just so you could see what they do in the indies?
Who from WWE would you love to see fired...just so you could see what they do in the indies?
I'd love to see Mark Henry in Japan.
Spirit of Jazz
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It's annoying when he does it to make the talent that's been build up look like shit. The Wyatt's had clean wins over Bryan/The Shield who were 2 of the most protected entities in the company then Cena effortless beats them all up 3 on 1 at multiple PPVs including the biggest of the year. Last night he managed to make the Shield look weak, Orton look weak, and Kane (along with Bryan by extension) look weak. He's put himself over everybody who's been built up and who the fans react well to over the last few months which makes it incredibly hard to care about anybody.
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Oh shit, yeah, Hall of Pain Mark Henry would be fantastic.
If that isn't reaching then I don't know what is.
I was going to say Mark Henry but since Aiii beat me to it I think I might go with Ziggler or Alicia.
Fourth Storm
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Raw sickened me last night. Reigns is supposed to be a babyface, yet he's cowardly slipping unknown substances in women's drinks? He's apparently getting that big push sooner than later, ready or not. The only doubt in my mind is that Cena is in the MitB match. My worst nightmare is Reigns coming out on top in that one and then Cena staying in the ring to clap/shake his hand.
Stardust was alot of fun though.
Stardust was alot of fun though.
I wanted Mark Henry to show up at an ROH PPV in Hammerstein and just murder everyone.
He'd be the biggest face ever. It would be the best.
#strouded
He'd be the biggest face ever. It would be the best.
#strouded
Man what noble thoughts. All I thought was Steph looked too cute for me to see her in such disarray.
British Monsoon
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The Miz vs Necro Butcher
Yeah, that could definitely work. I honestly think Ziggler would fit in well with New Japan's current style, also.
I've always kinda wanted Cena to do that. He'd be the biggest heel ever.
Yeah, that could definitely work. I honestly think Ziggler would fit in well with New Japan's current style, also.
Cagey said:
I've always kinda wanted Cena to do that. He'd be the biggest heel ever.
It might seem by last night, but I'd love to see Cody Rhodes on the indies. He is obviously a solid in-ring performer, but what I really would want to see is him given the freedom to create whatever character he wants. It would also be interesting to take the current incarnation of Triple H and transplant him to the indies. It would be cool to see how he'd adapt his character to a smaller, smart audience.
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I want Miz vs Zandig Prime, 2002. Or Kofi vs Zandig Prime. Goddddamn.
But now I'm getting into the "someone please hurt these people" mode.
I would legitimately enjoy seeing Santino vs Cabana.
For some sick reason I want to see triple h in something like czw. I just want to see a match with him and zandig.
Triple H pretty much had an ROH match at WM...and it was awesome.
Dude is killing it in 2014. #teamhaitch
Lol. Yeah I guess that's pretty true.
BronsonLee
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So, uh..I was informed about Star Dust
WHAT THE FUCK IS STAR DUST
WHAT THE FUCK IS STAR DUST
Fourth Storm
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I should have seen it coming with the clown makeup and hoop earrings she was wearing. It was meant to be ruined. haha
Cody Rhodes adopting the goldust facepaint and acting like a weirdo
