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June Wrasslin' |OT| Layin' the law, once again, prepare for war. C! Z! W!
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Things WCW shouldn't have done (pre-Russo era):
Let Mean Gene do interviews with Kevin Sullivan. They're the same height. Gene might be slightly taller.
Let Kevin Sullivan/Brutus Beefcake be lead heels.
Call Hogan/Savage the Monster Maniacs instead of Macho Maniacs.
Running shows from the enclosed Caesars Palace instead of outdoors.
Let Mean Gene do interviews with Kevin Sullivan. They're the same height. Gene might be slightly taller.
Let Kevin Sullivan/Brutus Beefcake be lead heels.
Call Hogan/Savage the Monster Maniacs instead of Macho Maniacs.
Running shows from the enclosed Caesars Palace instead of outdoors.
I don't think the size of the roster is the problem. The problem is creative and Vince. These two things together aim to put on predictable procedural tv type of experience instead of mimicking fighting in the way old wrestling did. They even expanded on this idea during the attitude era where mid card guys had good fan bases because they got to have feuds that had developed stories like the ME guys.
slightconfuse
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bitesnintendog
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Watching an old Attitude era Raw on the network reminded me of how much more interesting a show it used to be. Everyone featured had something going on. Some midcard guys like Road Dogg even had two stories going on. I don't see why they don't make longer stories for guys like Ziggler and Kofi instead of just telling them to go out there and wrestle.
Jimmy King
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Hmm, that wasn't the translation i was looking for, but meh, guess ill give it to you anyways
HarryDemeanor
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Tyson Kidd is one lucky guy.
Keyser Soze
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Diva Day Off is a pretty well done photo series. Especially compared to some of the crap Maxim, FHM (and others) put out, The photos are great to look at, but not exploitive or "porny" in nature. I am not sure what I am getting at, but congrats to whoever did them.
Lalya will probably grope someone in hers though - and ruin everything
It's not out yet, right?
Lalya will probably grope someone in hers though - and ruin everything
It's not out yet, right?
I am the Universe -- all things encompassing, all life embracing.
How much hair spray do you use?
Rafa=FedKilla
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That is not the Renee Young photoshoot part two.
I agree. He got to be out of the house while that was being shot.
Liquidsnake
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I could write a full page of why I think the WWE is in cost cutting mode.
I ll just say this. Things are and will get more serious than any of us think.
The product needs to get more raw. ( I know it cant) Going public was the worst thing ever that could happen to this product.
I ll just say this. Things are and will get more serious than any of us think.
The product needs to get more raw. ( I know it cant) Going public was the worst thing ever that could happen to this product.
Nocturnowl
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A match listing so underwhelming not even the target audience of myself can look forward to.
But I do love that cover.
Sibersk Esto
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Jimmy King
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I can't fathom WWE going under but it's fun to dream about it.
Liquidsnake
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Ill always have my WCW circa 1994-1999.
mechashiva
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4 issues? Sandman really hits it's stride on the third story I believe. So that would be like in the late teens early 20's. The first 6 issues really didn't do much for me but they actually wind up setting interesting groundwork. It's really one to keep reading and let the universe establish around you.
How so? They've been at their most successful and transparent since going public.
They could have been cutting costs for years. So much pyro for mid card guys for no reason, pyro to start the shows, keeping guys employed that they never use, paying guys like Khali $1M per year, losing money on WWE Studios for years just to have a movie division, bringing back old guys for lots of money who can't provide any ratings or buy rates, licensing out expensive songs for single events, and on and on.
Isn't this about the dumbest shit you've seen?
Jimmy King
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There's no need to fret, friends. Roman's gonna make it Reign dolla dolla bills y'all.
Am I reading this gif right? Hogan is down and out so his tag partner, Macho Man, elbow drops him to reinvigorate him with a lethal dose of Macho Madness and Hulkamania? If so that is most certainly the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Isn't this about the dumbest shit you've seen?
Am I reading this gif right? Hogan is down and out so his tag partner, Macho Man, elbow drops him to reinvigorate him with a lethal dose of Macho Madness and Hulkamania? If so that is most certainly the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Macho Madness
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Well when you make the equivalent of Santino your world champion what the hell do you expect
HarryDemeanor
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BoboBrazil
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Yeah, it was a horrible move trying to bite off the popularity of Daniel Bryan winning the title the same week, just without the build or journey to get there. They just continually make the worst booking decisions and it's been that way forever. Remember when James Storm was built up to win the world title in his home town as a babyface, they had him lose the match, had Roode win it that week on tv, and had Storm turn heel all the same week. They just keep making mind numbingly dumb decisions.
Liquidsnake
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Yep because the product was so much more better when it was non PG during the glory days of 2002-2004. The pg rating gets them more sponsors plus that is not the problem. Its the writing and Vince and Dunn. NXT is a great show and its pg.
I rather have pg so Vince humor is kept to vomit jokes rather than non PG with Hot Lesbian Action, necrophilia, setting people on fire, hymen jokes, and people nuts being shocked by a car battery.
There has only been a handful of years where WWE wasn't PG. For all the of the 70s, 80s, and most of the 90s, it was PG. Then for about 5 years, it was TV 14, then slowly fading back to PG before it was back to officially PG. There is nothing wrong at all with PG.
That is the greatest thing ever.
Too bad it flies over Stro's thick skull with the greatest of ease.
Avon Barksdale
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WWE should just dump the big ass set. You'd save a ton of money right there.
Please, he's probably on a leash in another room
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Deleted member 47027
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did you read the Death story yet? And the one immediately after, Doll House. That stuff changed me, man...it changed me. Profound stuff.
Those sort of things are are problem when they constantly insist on doing gimmick PPV's and these loads of gimmick themed matches. Blood isn't always necessary, but a little here and there would put more to the match/feud itself. Even so the shows in 2002-2004 were still putting up big ratings, unlike today. And Smackdown was always PG but had the booking behind it, as well as more charismatic talent.
I just read the one with Cain and Abel. Those first couple issues are not interesting in the least. Old dudes in England holding a pre-Prometheus Space Jockey captive for 70 years?
spindashing
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Got 81 bucks free in Microsoft bucks and a free medium sized Dominoes pizza today.
Today is good.
Today is good.
You could buy WWE 2K14 and all DLC!!!
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Deleted member 47027
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It picks up on book 8, or whatever #8 is. I honestly can't remember the Cain and Abel ones at ALL, so it makes me wonder what you might be reading.
#8 is "The Sound of Her Wings"
I'm like one issue after Morpheus got free and went back to being a weirdo with all his weirdo friends. The people who had been sleeping while he was trapped woke up. He's now on his quest to get his shit back. Constantine and the Justice League have been named as targets.
Jimmy King
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Dominos still calls its product "pizza"?
BoboBrazil
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Dominos pizza is awesome. Love the thin crust with hamburger or regular crust with pepperoni and mushroom or hawaiian.
Sadman gets really good after he recovers his gear or whatever. That's when Neil Gaiman gets out of the superhero mentality into pure artform mode. And it's one of the best works of fiction it exists imo.
I don't remember now, but I remember there was the arc about him going after his stuff, then a short story with Death (which is what sunny is refering to, I guess), then it starts Dollhouse and there to greatness.
I don't remember now, but I remember there was the arc about him going after his stuff, then a short story with Death (which is what sunny is refering to, I guess), then it starts Dollhouse and there to greatness.
QueenOfThorns
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Pizza snobs are the worst. It's fucking pizza. You'd have to actively try to fuck that up.
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Deleted member 47027
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Got damn right.
