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[Zach]

I hope she fails harder than her mom.

 

[bjork]

I hope she fails harder than her mom.

I don't. I hope she's president

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

This is a good read, but nothing really what ground breaking. Basically boils down to wins/losses don't matter at the main event level (despite what people say) and matter way more in the mid-card. Choice quote:

The problem is that wins matter very much once you get to the midcard, but not as a mystical signifier of backstage esteem. They matter because, for wrestlers outside the promotion's mega-narratives, there's no storytelling going on besides that told by the raw numbers. When there's no story to a feud, wins take place in a vacuum, and pushes become matters of career life or death. Witness the now departed Cody Rhodes and Wade Barrett, who had their input rejected and were left to fight for wins in an imaginary sport just to stay on television. Or, say, the sad spectacle of once white hot Dolph Ziggler, now stuck in a perpetual feud with new call-up Baron Corbin, with no story attached to it other than these guys dislike each other for ill-defined reasons. Ziggler will almost certainly bolt sooner than later; he's been given nothing to work with for three years, leaving us with nothing but the steady drip of his regular losses for us to figure out if he's worth investing in.

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/what-wwe-needs-most-is-more-stories

 

[Zach]

No you don't, bjork. Stop NeoGAF Vince McMahon-ing.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

This is a good read, but nothing really what ground breaking. Basically boils down to wins/losses don't matter at the main event level (despite what people say) and matter way more in the mid-card. Choice quote:



https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/what-wwe-needs-most-is-more-stories

"once white hot Dolph Ziggler"

ehhhhhhh

 

[bjork]

No you don't, bjork. Stop NeoGAF Vince McMahon-ing.

I pay almost zero attention to politics. Make doink the president, it's all the same to me in my bubble here.

 

[Data West]

I pay almost zero attention to politics. Make doink the president, it's all the same to me in my bubble here.

You trying to make the kids cry?

 

[FlammableD]

"once white hot Dolph Ziggler"

ehhhhhhh

c'mon, he was undisputably super over for a good period there. Round MITB, even that Survivor Series.

 

[Lightning Count]

Let's just stick to wrestling/TV nostalgia no politics.

 

[jmdajr]

MN9 news today has been a "I can't believe its THIS bad" tier

Malware detecting its DLC as malware
WiiU version dogshit
All versions dogshit
Download codes not working

What could possibly be next?

Hey

It's better than Nothing.

It's better than.....something?

 

[Aiii]

Hey

It's better than Nothing.

Is it though?

 

[Data West]

Is it though?

4/10 is mathematically > 0/10

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

"once white hot Dolph Ziggler"

ehhhhhhh

The guy was super over at one period no?

Still, it doesn't detract from the issue the article is pointing out: The WWE is really bad with stories, and to an extent always has.

 

[Lightning Count]

On topic of wrestlers soiling themselves who can forget Sid shitting his pants against the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 13.

 

[Zach]

Stupid sexy forbidden political discussion.

 

[jmdajr]

From this NPR article I'm reading about TRUUUMP:



Sick.

Soooo......

$334,000 out of his 1.3 million?

 

[Barrage]

This is a good read, but nothing really what ground breaking. Basically boils down to wins/losses don't matter at the main event level (despite what people say) and matter way more in the mid-card. Choice quote:



https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/what-wwe-needs-most-is-more-stories

Ziggler signed a new contract last year.

Fingers on the pulse, guys.

 

[Lightning Count]

Really hoping TNA can limp on long to see just how crazy the Matt/Brother Nero feud can get.

 

[Data West]

Ziggler and Inafune have a lot in common, really if you think about it. Originally hyped up solely to counter 'the man' and what his idea of what and who should be focused on. Later learning that they were a complete nobody hack that relied entirely on the previous success of others and regretting any previous postings you had made in support of them.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Soooo......

$334,000 out of his 1.3 million?

Yep.

By October she'll be plugging herself along with Hillary

 

[Angry Grimace]

It must be eating Vince up inside that Zayn is super over and the two dudes he hand-picked with Crews and Corbin are dead.

 

[bjork]

You trying to make the kids cry?

Heel doink, not face doink

 

[Data West]

It must be eating Vince up inside that Zayn is super over and the two dudes he hand-picked with Crews and Corbin are dead.

Zayn would do as well with a Ziggler feud as Corbin did.

 

[Lightning Count]

Heel doink, not face doink

Someone needs to an IT style gimmick, a psychotic clown would be awesome.

 

[sf2fanatic]

I hope she fails harder than her mom.

Dammit Zach i'm suppose to agree and laugh at this but I am..

 

[Zach]

I still kind of like Dolph Ziggler and everyone looks to me for legit, unmolested opinions.

 

[imBask]

Zayn would do as well with a Ziggler feud as Corbin did.

don't worry, we'll get the Zayn vs Ziggler feud soon enough

Battleground will be the end of the Owens - Zayn storyline, before one of them gets drafted

 

[somedevil]

It must be eating Vince up inside that Zayn is super over and the two dudes he hand-picked with Crews and Corbin are dead.

Crews is above Corbin. He actually got the crowd interested in his match with Sheamus when did all his athletic moves.

He just needs to find his personality to get to the next level.


Also, didn't Vince and Linda back Christie during the primaries? Though talking about politics never go well these days.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Well, you hear about Jaywalking a fair amount - whether that's the case here I don't know.

I would love to be a fly in the room when Paige gets told her dad has come to collect her from the station.

This and probably public intoxication

 

[Nocturnowl]

Ziggler and Inafune have a lot in common, really if you think about it. Originally hyped up solely to counter 'the man' and what his idea of what and who should be focused on. Later learning that they were a complete nobody hack that relied entirely on the previous success of others and regretting any previous postings you had made in support of them.

No lies detected.

 

[The Elite]

Battleground will be the end of the Owens - Zayn storyline, before one of them gets drafted

I want them to be drafted to separate shows only to see them showing up on each other's show just to beat the shit out of each other, forcing someone to make a trade. That would really build the feud.

 

[Cagey]

Crews is somehow the Perfect Example of a Vince Project (all look; no character) and the Perfect Example of an Indie Darling (all movez; no character) at the same time.

I still have faith.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Lol! Hogan trying to take pictures with real movie stars hilarious! Shove it up your arse boy!

 

[Lightning Count]

Crews is somehow the Perfect Example of a Vince Project (all look; no character) and the Perfect Example of an Indie Darling (all movez; no character) at the same time.

I still have faith.

He just needs the right feud to shine or I stand by my earlier suggestion of have him do some tag team stuff for a while so he can build his persona. If they partner him with the right person and his lack of charisma/mic skills is less of an issue. Plus if one them turns heel down the road you've got a ready made feud.

 

[Sephzilla]

I think Crews will be fine. The dude clearly needs a lot of work yet, but he's not getting a through-the-moon push so he won't get Roman'd by the fans

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Crews is above Corbin. He actually got the crowd interested in his match with Sheamus when did all his athletic moves.

He just needs to find his personality to get to the next level.


Also, didn't Vince and Linda back Christie during the primaries? Though talking about politics never go well these days.

Crews is above corbin because of that fire of a theme. How do you not get hyped when you hear that?

I noticed during Raw that corbin has a thinning hair line so I wonder how long his long slick hair look is going to go on for

 

[Zach]

I was half-watching Crews vs.Sheamus for a minute this morning/last night/whatever and I was thinking "man, these dudes look impressive, they're pretty good in the ring, they just have no charisma to speak of..."

Crews still has time to figure it out, though.

 

[somedevil]

Crews is above corbin because of that fire of a theme. How do you not get hyped when you hear that?

I noticed during Raw that corbin has a thinning hair line so I wonder how long his long slick hair look is going to go on for

Also, doesn't help Corbin has a meme going with his stomach. This one won a free year subscription of MLW.

 

[SallyIsNow]

Someone needs to an IT style gimmick, a psychotic clown would be awesome.

Heel Doink has perhaps the greatest theme in pro-wrestling. I'd even put it above ministry Taker.

 

[jmdajr]

Random thing I find Funny.

Motivational posts on Instagram..that are really just an excuse to show some skin.

 

[Lightning Count]

Heel Doink has perhaps the greatest theme in pro-wrestling. I'd even put it above ministry Taker.

I don't remember it, I'll look it up on YouTube.

Gangrel had the GOAT entrance.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Reigns telling the fans to shut their mouth was awesome.

 

[Heroman]

Is rusev going to get feed to Angle?

 

[Lightning Count]

Is rusev going to feed to Angle?

Hopefully not but I can see that.

 

[imBask]

Is rusev going to feed to Angle?

Rusev wins and breaks Angle's medal in half

 

[Zach]

Is rusev going to feed to Angle?

Hopefully not but I can see that.

It'd be worth it. People would eat it up.

As long as Rusev won it back after a feud, or even better, was elevated to the top of the card.

 

[Sephzilla]

I would mark out like a motherfucker if Angle's music started up during a Rusev promo

 

[avengers23]

Stupid sexy forbidden political discussion.

MexAmerica.

The Latin American Xchange.

 

[Heroman]

I would mark out like a motherfucker if Angle's music started up during a Rusev promo

It would be the greatest moment in pro wrestling history.

 

[jmdajr]

It would be the greatest moment in pro wrestling history.

It be pretty damn neat.