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June Wrasslin' |OT| Welcome to the Family, Disregard my Brother

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Nocturnowl

Member
Reading through the PPV talk has had me on the brink of full on laughter...

Jamie OD said:
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God damn it, Sin Cara.[/QUOTE]

And this just pushed me over, that's our beloved botching machine in action, give Sin Cara another push.
Maybe the sheer aura of Cena's presence is what finally had him crumple to his knees.
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Alucard

Banned
Aiii said:
Thank Vince that shit is finally over. Now onto Bryan vs. Cena.
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Not gonna happen just because everyone wants it, and because they probably want Cena to hold the belt for a while.

I only want Bryan going after Cena if he beats him...clean. Two times in a row.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Alucard said:
Not gonna happen just because everone wants it, and because they probably want Cena to hold the belt for a while.
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It's happening because they planned it to happen. Meltzer confirmed it was still a go last he heard on last nights Observer Radio.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Alucard said:
Can Bryan break the Cena glass ceiling?
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I think he'll go over at SummerSlam.

Don't forget, Cena and Bryan are both dating a Bella Twin. Cena will put over the right guys, he put over Punk, I believe he will do the same for Bryan. Not until SummerSlam though.
 
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British Monsoon

Member
Kaitlyn reaction gifs;

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Also, nice to see Kaitlyn and AJ get some good time on the PPV, the women's match last night went exactly 10 minutes :)
 
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Arrowgigantic

Member
They can occasionally have Mark Henry around for a Ron Simmons role-- when someone really squashes someone, he can show up and say "THAT'S WHAT I USED TO DO!"
 
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jmdajr

Member
Couldn't see the whole PPV but what I caught was good. Thoughts.

Didn't see the match but Curtis winning Intercontinental Title = bueno

Wasn't expecting the double turn in The Ziggs match. The Del Rio face experiment is over and hopefully this takes Ziggler to bigger and better places.

Now that face Punk is back, the sooner we can get CM vs Brock. It will happen.

Looks like D. Bry and Orton is up next. I think it will be a face vs face feud.
Gotta stack up those wins before facing Cena. Along the way he needs to beat someone else clean.... Sheamus.

Last match was what it was, but I thought the Ryback did good work. Cena flying spot was indeed hilarious.
 
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British Monsoon

Member
strobogo said:
I can't believe I enjoyed a Miz and Divas match. In a row, no less.
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Yeah, Miz really wasn't awful last night, I was quite surprised - they worked a pretty good 3-way match, although Barrett did go missing for a good portion of it.

Blackout;

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Jeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhn Ceeeeeenaaaaaahhhhhh;

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What now for The Ryback? He's been pretty unsuccessful, despite being given a strong push upon his debut. Fed to Cena too early?
 
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Jamie OD

Member
I noticed a nice subtle moment from Del Rio as he turned heel during the match. AJ's title belt was on the ground when he threw Ziggler back into the ring while Ricardo was yelling "He's fine! He's fine!" Del Rio then kicked away the title in front of AJ before he entered back into the ring.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Jamie OD said:
I noticed a nice subtle moment from Del Rio as he turned heel during the match. AJ's title belt was on the ground when he threw Ziggler back into the ring while Ricardo was yelling "He's fine! He's fine!" Del Rio then kicked away the title in front of AJ before he entered back into the ring.
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He actually kicked it into the guy handling the camera cables. Poor guy.
 
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Ithil

Member
Jamie OD said:
I noticed a nice subtle moment from Del Rio as he turned heel during the match. AJ's title belt was on the ground when he threw Ziggler back into the ring while Ricardo was yelling "He's fine! He's fine!" Del Rio then kicked away the title in front of AJ before he entered back into the ring.
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That's some straight up heeling there. It also felt like a double turn for Ricardo and AJ, as well, to a lesser extent.
 
D

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Kicking the Divas title is a pretty face thing if you ask me

Saw this on tumblr tho
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The talk of the town after WWE Payback has certainly been the disturbing display put on by Alberto Del Rio in his match against (now former) World Heavyweight Champion Dolph Ziggler, leading to Del Rio picking up the title. Ziggler had returned from being sidelined due to a concussion, and although Del Rio had been touted as the good guy for the longest time, he showed up to Chicago with malcontent and went so far as to kick a man while he’s down - literally. This double turn seeing Alberto becoming rudo again and Ziggler the underdog babyface was definitely not predictable to many, especially this here laceapair.

But what is interesting to this gear blog is how this turn could’ve been seen a mile away just by looking at the wrestlers’ gears.

The first noticeable item on Del Rio is the wrist tape. As an arrogant heel in the beginning of his WWE career, he sported white wrist tape (and his white scarf) to showcase the purity and class he had as this elite aristocrat. Later in his first heel run, he switched to black tape (and a black scarf) to enforce the evil and power he possessed. When he turned face, he switched back to the white tape to represent the goodness he had as the people’s hero, etc - now look what he’s wearing. He showcased power in this match and a wicked elegance when attacking Ziggler - it made sense why he was attacking Ziggler’s head but it was just plain wrong morally.

His trunk colors raise a bunch of flags as well. Red demonstrates a sign of danger but also links back to survival - Del Rio presenting himself as a threat to Ziggler and how he will survive against the “Show Off.” The gold filling detail establishes his good health and power. The green highlighting/outlining that gold is reinforcing Del Rio’s stability of his health and endurance in this match, unlike Ziggler’s poor health and poor endurance.

As for the former world champion, Dolph’s trunks have two interesting factors to them. For one, they’re one of his signature colors: silver. In general, silver can represent intelligence, security and reliability - but in the case of tonight, this silver presents a maturity and modesty from Dolph. He didn’t whine and complain - he couldn’t, really - after losing the title, and he didn’t have the opportunity to normally show off during his match…however he didn’t look for the opportunity either.

Another aspect of his trunks is the statement on the back reading: “OVER it…” written in pink. It could mean anything, but looking at Ziggler’s use of wrestling-related jargon, he could be referring to being over, or being known and responded to by the fans. He could be over being World Heavyweight Champion. He could be over being #HEEL as we’re starting to see. He could be over being overlooked. Whatever one you choose to pick, it’s eye-catching and thought-provoking. It’s also worth noting that it’s written in a light pink, which promotes feelings of acceptance and calm - as Ziggler is accepting being over with the fans.
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Aiii

So not worth it
Ithil said:
That's some straight up heeling there. It also felt like a double turn for Ricardo and AJ, as well, to a lesser extent.
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I don't know about AJ. That could go either way.

Either Kaitlyn snaps and turns heel (which, considering AJ mimicked Dolph's promo that turned her, is a good possibility) so AJ can turn face.

Or AJ and Big E break away from Dolph, they could do something where AJ deems Dolph "too weak" for her as she has a title and he doesn't. AJ and Big E did do a pretty big heelish thing to Kaitlyn just a week ago, so if they all turn it needs to be a slow turn because of that.

Doubt they'll break them up though, but I don't think AJ and Kaitlyn are finished, so they would need to do a double turn on those two as well.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
and then dolph bones kaitlyn part 2.

Works for me. I've been wanting a face Dolph run for at least a year, and the prickish moves Del Rio did reminded me of what he's good at.
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Aiii

So not worth it
The thing is, they're turning so many people at once now.

If they turn Big E, AJ and Kaitlyn, along with Dolph and Del Rio, as well as Punk and Orton....

It's almost like Russo is booking this stuff again.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Watched Del Rio/Ziggler. Yep, double turn, it's not even debatable. It's so obvious and planned. Good on WWE for doing it. Gonna catch the rest of the matches throughout the day.
 
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jred2k

Member
Both Del Rio and Ziggler did such a good job of making those kicks to the head look absolutely vicious. That may have been my favourite out of a night of good matches.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
All these turns are good for making WWE feel fresh again. RVD returning also helps, and Christian should return shortly. Maybe even tonight, so they can add the two of them to a MitB match.

I'm so excited for the product right now, this can't ever last.
 
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Ithil

Member
To be honest, the roster really does need a shake up in general, it's been stagnant for a while. New champs (Shield and Axel), heel and face turns, changes in divisions, they're needed right now.
 
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Ithil

Member
I think that if they so wished, they could believably turn AJ face with Dolph based on the World title match last night. While AJ was heel as hell in the Divas match, the brutal beatdown of Dolph is a believable thing to make her realise the error of her ways and perhaps apologize to Kaitlyn.

Of course you could turn Kaitlyn heel by rejecting the apology and going crazy, which would be an interesting bookend to their story (which started with AJ going crazy after Bryan dumped her).

I'm just tired of "AJ has ANOTHER new man" stories, especially when her and Ziggler have been a great pairing, devoid of any of the problems her previous pairings had. Big E has always been a temporary addition, he's got his own singles path to follow.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Ziggler doesn't need to change his character, his show off gimmick can work as a confident face as well. Except that he's no longer showing off because he thinks so highly of himself, but instead he shows off because he loves to entertain the crowd.

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Find it hard to believe they'll break Dolph and AJ up. They do alot of press together and do appear to be legit dating, so it doesn't make that much sense to break them up.
 
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Ithil

Member
Aiii said:
Ziggler doesn't need to change his character, his show off gimmick can work as a confident face as well. Except that he's no longer showing off because he thinks so highly of himself, but instead he shows off because he loves to entertain the crowd.
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Nah, nuts to the "doing it FOR THE FANS" nonsense. It always feels insincere. Show off because you're the best in your eyes. A man with that much confidence is easy to root for and a believable character.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Aiii said:
Ziggler doesn't need to change his character, his show off gimmick can work as a confident face as well. Except that he's no longer showing off because he thinks so highly of himself, but instead he shows off because he loves to entertain the crowd.
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Aiii

So not worth it
Ithil said:
Nah, nuts to the "doing it FOR THE FANS" nonsense. It always feels insincere. Show off because you're the best in your eyes. A man with that much confidence is easy to root for and a believable character.
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As Dragonzord illustrated, it worked for Michaels.
 
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strobogo

Banned
Dragonzord said:
Just do like they did with Mr. Perfect. Act the exact same but do it to heels instead of faces.
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I like Perfect's end of WWF days face turn, but he really wasn't that good at it outside of squash matches. He really had no offense. His entire face moveset consisted of dick head chops, a leap frog/dropkick combo, the neck flip, and Perfect Plex. But the pinball bumping makes it really easy to get sympathy. It worked for HBK.

Dolph actually seems to have dropped some moves in the past 5 months or so. The reverse powerslam being the main one, but I guess he's been mostly working with dudes bigger than him.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Oh, this probably means he finally gets to do The Superkick as his finisher instead of the ZigZag (never been a fan). I hope they have Michaels officially pass it down to him.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Working on GWF scripts. Now that all the teams have been announced and revealed, it's time to dig in and get things RIGHT. I can't wait.

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In case you missed ANY of the team reveals:

Secret identities are not a new concept, but #teammask looks to make their secret into YOUR favorite faction. Mr. Luchador is living up to his name, tm24 is here representing the Nova Corps, and Master Kwon15 makes a triumphant return! Wait, we've never seen him before! - #teammask - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjB0W7bUKZU

Who said nice guys finish last? Here's 3 of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, here to give you a handshake, and clap your shoulder. Whether it's a friendly interview by McNei1y, a fresh perspective on porn from Pepsi City, or the untouchable optimism of FallingEdge, you'll leave feeling better than when you arrived. - Nice Guys - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nvxRbBbB3k

People always say there's a bit of overlap between MMA and pro wrasslin. What's the GWF gonna do when a group of legit shooters like Can Crusher, Heel, and Lambda Piscium come to town? MMA-GAF - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiC_6iRse4U

There are some people who watch TNA no matter how bad it gets. Net_Wrecker, Entropia, and Mr. Sandman have gone the distance - these three souls have been through the wringer, and have managed to keep their minds intact. Or have they? Total Nonstop Abuse - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_O9cC_HXAg

The Pure Puro Power Pack love all things from the Land of the Rising Sun. Jamie OD and Bootaaay, along with their slightly confused Slightconfuse, look to bring their strong style into the GWF and leave with a belt. The Dead, on the other hand, have eyes that say "What I have seen...has killed me." Strobogo and the recently-dead Ithil, along with the returning-from-the-dead Dragonzord (nipples intact) are here to take the title to the grave. PPPP and The Dead - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6cAydkGryw

From the Golden Boy, B-Arthur to the depths of the ocean with Shark Johnson, Dollars to Depths looks to bring The Frankman into the rotation as the large-shouldered terror from the Dollars..or from the Depths. Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect on the other hand already have these taken care of, and perennial favorite Nocturnowl, along with the recently resurrected Professor Beef and the man with the largest 36 inch pythons on his legs, Heavy have come to do battle and bring hustling, being loyal, and respectful to the GWF ring! Dollars to Depths and Hustle, Loyalty, Respect - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmtJSWI486k
 
E

El-Suave

Member
Del Rio's heel turn is pretty subtle for the WWE crowd. Sheamus kicks people's heads in week after week, in a much more heelish way and he still gets cheered.
 
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Ithil

Member
Aiii said:
As Dragonzord illustrated, it worked for Michaels.
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Different time, though, I don't think the fans take to the "doing it FOR YOU THE WWE UNIVERSE" type guys anymore.

Look at Sheamus, Miz and face Del Rio, they're pure cardboard cutout doing it for all these great fans right here in Bumpkinville, Middle of Nowhere. And those cheap pops are near the only reaction they can get, they're just not compelling or rootable.

Meanwhile, Bryan does nothing for the fans, in fact as a face, he's really still not a very good person, but he's so fascinating a character, and has such a compelling story and wrestling style, that he's the most over man in the company. I know Sheamus and Miz are dickweeds as faces, but that's not intentional on WWE's part, its just bad writing, the commentary team, recaps etc all have them as heroic hero faces, whereas Bryan is acknowledged to be an unstable, egocentric mad man with a shitload of talent.

Not saying you need to be "edgy and cool" as a face, just have the faces be actual characters, with something rootable about them.
 
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