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June Wrasslin' |OT| Welcome to the Family, Disregard my Brother

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jred2k

Member
Dixie is gonna be really upset when she finds out that Clubber Lang and Thunderlips aren't how you defeat Rocky.

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British Monsoon

Member
Current standings in the Best of the Super Juniors;

Block A:
1. Prince Devitt [14]
2. Ricochet [10]
3. Taichi [8]
-. Jushin Thunder Liger [8]
-. Rocky Romero [8]
-. Alex Shelley [8]
7. Titan [4]
-. Baretta [4]
9. Hiromu Takahashi [0]


Block B:
1. Alex Koslov [8]
-. Ryusuke Taguchi [8]
-. KUSHIDA [8]
-. TAKA Michonoku [8]
-. Tiger Mask [8]
-. Kenny Omega [8]
7. BUSHI [6]
-. Brian Kendrick [6]
9. Jado [4]

Looks like the semi-finalists from Block A will be
Devitt in 1st place & Ricochet or Shelley in 2nd, who face each other on Thursday. Taichi & Liger are out as they can only get a possible 10 points, but would lose out as they both were defeated by Ricochet - Romero is still in it, as he defeated Ricochet, but he needs to defeat Titan on Thursday to be in with a chance
. As for Block B, it's far more open, but I'm guessing the finalists will be
Taguchi in 1st place & KUSHIDA or Omega in 2nd, most likely KUSHIDA
. So I'm guessing the semi-final's will look like this;

Prince Devitt vs KUSHIDA
Ryusuke Taguchi vs Ricochet

And then a final of;

Prince Devitt vs Ryusuke Taguchi
- at that point, either
Devitt wins, vacates the title and challenges for Okada's IWGP Championship, or (more likely) Taguchi beats Devitt and faces him for the Jr. Heavyweight Title at DOMINION, where Devitt probably loses and then transitions to the Heavyweight division
.
 
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thefro

Member
Striker said:
Axel hitting his swinging neckbreaker onto the chair would've been a nice finisher to end the match had Ryback interfered a bit sooner. I don't get it. The constant countout/no decision results they've been booking on Axel is absurd. I hope for his sake they're going to pull out something remarkable for Payback, otherwise all these matches he's getting put in make no sense. I had thought Jericho would be fighting him, not Punk, at one point and it still may happen. He wins, and perhaps has a rematch at MitB. But right now it seems like there's no direction.
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"Lucky finisher out of nowhere for the win" is pretty good booking in that case. It'd just take Cena or HHH getting KOed by it dead once to put it over huge. You can do the no-contest/countout crap after that, but as long as you protect the finishing move after it doesn't hurt anyone.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Devitt will never make it as a heavyweight, he's too small!

I hate that fucker!
 
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Jamie OD

Member
Bootaaay said:
Tremont said on facebook that it was a previous pancreatic problem he had which was throwing off the blood tests, so he couldn't be cleared to compete before ToD.

Kobashi is supposed to be announcing the results of his test today, but seemed to be downplaying the severity of the situation.
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The translations I found are a bit difficult to understand. Kobayashi announced his results came back negative so he does not have Hep C. However he may still be carrying the virus and it could spread to others so he is going to see blood specialists to sort that out.
 
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jred2k

Member
remnant said:
Not so sure about that. A lot of the backstage moves that have happened recently are due to HHH, and I'm fine with that.
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Oh I see, calling his boss a fool on live international TV watched by millions is fine as long as he keeps signing jobbers to feed to himself.

The moral compass ITT is starting to go south.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
The next GWF video is going to show all the factions. I think I'm doing away with individual reveals since we have a month until GWF 2.0 debuts. I want to introduce each faction.

Currently the GWF story, even though there's very little for 2.0 at the moment, involves Heel forcing Soulplaya to defend his GWF TV Title at the inaugural GWF 2.0 launch on the 4th of July, in America - against the winner of a tournament.

Nobody told Heel that since it is a TV appearance (DPPV actually) he has to defend it anyway so it's not like he has any real power, but he thinks he does.

Will the various factions come in to play for this single-man tournament? Will we see faction members against each other? Word from GWF Management is that each Faction must choose one member to represent their entire faction, so perhaps the seeds of discord are already sown.

Look forward to the Faction Warfare teasers coming online as I make em. I'll try to time them with Raw, and we're going to have a great time. GAF Observer states that the head Booker, Sonny Flowers, has come back to his job with renewed vigor.

Here's a few teasers for the factions:

#teammask (yes it includes the hashtag)
Never Give Up Squad
Nice Guys Finish First
Total Nonstop Abuse
Titantic
Pure Puro Power Pack
MMA Camp
The Dead

and more.
 
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jmdajr

Member
Man, I have to go to some classes later today in order to baptize my kid. It's gonna be like I'm Catholic School again, ugh. I'm not too down with religion these days so I hope I don't get kicked out of there.

To answer the questions why? It's tradition and it'll make my mom happy.

Luckily I just have to go to one 3 hour class, and then the actual event.
 
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strobogo

Banned
Sunflower said:
The next GWF video is going to show all the factions. I think I'm doing away with individual reveals since we have a month until GWF 2.0 debuts. I want to introduce each faction.

Currently the GWF story, even though there's very little for 2.0 at the moment, involves Heel forcing Soulplaya to defend his GWF TV Title at the inaugural GWF 2.0 launch on the 4th of July, in America - against the winner of a tournament.

Nobody told Heel that since it is a TV appearance (DPPV actually) he has to defend it anyway so it's not like he has any real power, but he thinks he does.

Will the various factions come in to play for this single-man tournament? Will we see faction members against each other? Word from GWF Management is that each Faction must choose one member to represent their entire faction, so perhaps the seeds of discord are already sown.

Look forward to the Faction Warfare teasers coming online as I make em. I'll try to time them with Raw, and we're going to have a great time. GAF Observer states that the head Booker, Sonny Flowers, has come back to his job with renewed vigor.

Here's a few teasers for the factions:

#teammask (yes it includes the hashtag)
Never Give Up Squad
Nice Guys Finish First
Total Nonstop Abuse
Titantic
Pure Puro Power Pack
MMA Camp
The Dead

and more.
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I feel like I could fit in all of those except MMA Camp and PPPP.
 
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XenoRaven

Member
Catholicism is the best religion. All the Catholics I know do absolutely whatever they want during the week, then go to confession, rinse, repeat. I wish being Protestant was that awesome. I might not have quit.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
XenoRaven said:
Catholicism is the best religion. All the Catholics I know do absolutely whatever they want during the week, then go to confession, rinse, repeat. I wish being Protestant was that awesome. I might not have quit.
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I was a catholic and I still quit. so yeah, do with that what you will heh.
 
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Striker

Member
thefro said:
"Lucky finisher out of nowhere for the win" is pretty good booking in that case. It'd just take Cena or HHH getting KOed by it dead once to put it over huge. You can do the no-contest/countout crap after that, but as long as you protect the finishing move after it doesn't hurt anyone.
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Yeah, I still don't think they've developed a good finisher for him. Cena kicks out of both the swinging neckbreaker and Axel's PerfectPlex in what should be when they're putting the guy over, so what now?
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Batista has been playing with his toys all morning:

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Kaladin

Member
Sunflower said:
The next GWF video is going to show all the factions. I think I'm doing away with individual reveals since we have a month until GWF 2.0 debuts. I want to introduce each faction.

Currently the GWF story, even though there's very little for 2.0 at the moment, involves Heel forcing Soulplaya to defend his GWF TV Title at the inaugural GWF 2.0 launch on the 4th of July, in America - against the winner of a tournament.

Nobody told Heel that since it is a TV appearance (DPPV actually) he has to defend it anyway so it's not like he has any real power, but he thinks he does.

Will the various factions come in to play for this single-man tournament? Will we see faction members against each other? Word from GWF Management is that each Faction must choose one member to represent their entire faction, so perhaps the seeds of discord are already sown.

Look forward to the Faction Warfare teasers coming online as I make em. I'll try to time them with Raw, and we're going to have a great time. GAF Observer states that the head Booker, Sonny Flowers, has come back to his job with renewed vigor.

Here's a few teasers for the factions:

#teammask (yes it includes the hashtag)
Never Give Up Squad
Nice Guys Finish First
Total Nonstop Abuse
Titantic
Pure Puro Power Pack
MMA Camp
The Dead

and more.
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Can't wait to see where Mr. Sandman fits in all this......The Dead? Total Nonstop Abuse? #teammask?
 
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somedevil

Member
WWE World Heavyweight champion has been officially cleared to return to the ring, according to PWInsider.com. Ziggler is scheduled to appear at tonight's SmackDown tapings from Uniondale, Long Island, so it's possible he'll be wrestling on this Friday's broadcast.
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Finally!
 
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Kaladin

Member
Chikara news:

The following statement was issued to PWInsider.com this morning:
"Some people have been attempting to distract from what happened on Sunday's iPPV by circulating rumors about an affair, a bitter divorce, or a dispute over the ownership of CHIKARA. All of these rumors are absolutely false."

A previous statement issued to PWInsider.com from CHIKARA's promotional end late last night claimed the promotion was liquidating its merchandise and that it would be selling whatever physical assets (production material, etc.) off.

The idea fronted by the release was that the promotion had been struggling since their Joshimania events did not do well and they had been running in the red since late 2011. The implication was that the "parent company" had pulled the plug - literally, given the end of the show Sunday - on the promotion.

The statement claimed that all agreements with "third party vendors", such as their DVD deal with Smart Mark Video, would be honored through the end of 2013.

The canceled 7/21 date in NYC is now being filled by Kaiju Big Battel. Several of the CHIKARA "Wrestling Is..." sister promotions have already announced other dates that were formerly announced for CHIKARA as well.

As we move further down the rabbit hole, it certainly appears to be a completely massive angle, although what the end game on an angle that shuts down your company and potentially dilutes the brand name by splitting it across seven sister promotions remains to be seen.
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I'm also puzzled as to what the end game on this angle is. Why shut down your company at the height of it's popularity (not buying that it was in the red at all) and take a risk that could hurt the brand?

I'm especially puzzled by the decision to liquidate merch and other physical assets.
 
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Mr. Luchador

Member
Big post from Reddit (sorry).

Here's a rehash, based on my web searches and looking around r/SC today.

My thesis Chikara is doing one part sci-fi spoof (Time travel), one part universe reboot angle (Wrestling Is), and one part brand/business expansion.

Okay, for those who don't know, here's the very quick and dirty version.

Archibald Peck got the Backfist to the Future in his first match with Eddie Kingston in 2011. This started the time travel angle. Peck went to the future, got a sports almanac and learned all his future match outcomes.

Archie got backfisted again at Chikarasaurus Rex, sending him to the past, where he became the Mysterious and Handsome Stranger. So this spoofs Back to the Future.

Both Archies are walking around in our present timeline. Another BTTF reference. Two copies of one guy in one timeline meeting is bad, very bad, in BTTF logic.

Titor/WMD/Wink/Condor stuff is all conspiracy theory. John Titor was the pseudonym for a guy on the Art Bell forums who claimed to be a time traveler. So Titor Conglomerate owning WMD, which owns Chikara, Lance Steel, the disapparance of Swamp Monster, Archie's time traveling - all that stuff is looped together.

That's the very short version of the time travel angle. Now here's the Crisis of Infinite Chikaras angle that's unfolding:

Two Archies in our timeline, as I pointed out, is bad in BTTF logic. This has the potential to destroy spacetime itself.

Condor may or may not be time cops trying to stop this from occurring.

The end of Anniversario may have been Wink's last attempt at stopping this destruction. Or not. Nobody has said anything, because IRL all Chikara staff and wrestlers signed non-disclosure agreements.

Now let's jump back to Back to the Future II for a second. Remember the alternate 1985? The one where Biff got rich and ruined Hill Valley? Take a look at Chikara right now:

Rudos hold all the titles.

Kingston went from bad guy made good to giant asshole.

Nobody can beat Angelosetti. He keeps winning and winning, and rubbing it in everyone's faces.

The Colony's 2011 KOTR medals were retroactively given to another team.

Beloved tag teams and stables have been split up. (FIST, Colony)

Longtime friends are now enemies. (Quack and Jigsaw, Amasis and Ophidian, FIST, The Colony)

Several wrestlers protest-quit or were mysteriously fired.

Ophidian said, "Kill me!" to Amasis before revealing Amasis' mask underneath his own.

Tim Donst went from asshole to deranged lunatic (Darkest timeline Donst).

Veronica went from perky baton twirler to hopeless loner.

Dark parodies of Chikara favorites appeared from no where. (Gekido)

3.0 lost the belts again.

Marty Jannetty no-showed on Icarus.

Icarus turned face.

Anniversario ended with Condor kicking everyone out, tearing down the set, and Wink canceling all of Chikara's shows.

All of this points to something being seriously, totally wrong in Chikara - not just wrong, but like things literally aren't supposed to be this way. Almost like something was out of place in our timeline...

Now for the universe reboot.

We've entered what Community fans know as "the darkest timeline" for Chikara. Yet Chikara didn't exist in a vacuum. It operates several "Wrestling Is" promotions, each of which contains a letter in Chikara's name (Except there's no K promotion, and Wrestling is Fun). The Wrestle Factory, in storyline, remained a separate entity from Chikara itself.

This means as a company, Chikara is expanding. It has its own, mini-territorial system of satellite promotions.

This also means that while in our storyline, Chikara is defunct, the Wrestling Is promotions are not.

However, this sounds a lot like multiple earths, like in Marvel and DC.

Also, nature abhors a vacuum. Chikara just left a huge vacuum.

Now for the other, unanswered stuff.

Delirious swore 2 years of hell on Ultramantis Black. Yet he hasn't done much since. Why?

The Eye of Tyr was supposedly destroyed - or was it?!

Just who are the Colony: Xtreme Force?

What was in the envelope Derek Sabato gave Mike Quackenbush?

Why did a picture of a groundbreaking set Wink off?
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One thing that I totally forgot about and hasnt been covered much is at The Tag World Grand Prix a couple weeks ago, Archie was backfisted by Kingston again. Then, when he was about to do a springboard, he stopped and looked up and was starring at something. Up in the balcony was Another Archibald Peck.

Also, somewhere through the night, Lance Steel was seen in the balcony with a Swamp Monster.
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Kaladin

Member
Mr. Luchador said:
Big post from Reddit (sorry).
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Saw that last night, I'm convinced it's a big angle but I'm not convinced of the payoff of said angle. It could either turn out to be the biggest thing a wrestling company has done in years or it could backfire and turn their fan base against them.

No wrestling company has ever closed up shop for an angle, not even temporarily. Even WCW co-branded events nWo/WCW when they were doing that takeover angle......the shows still went on. It's an unprecedented risk. Even if they're replacing shows with the "Wrestling Is..." brands, the payoff has to be massive or I can see a lot of damage done to the Chikara brand.
 
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XenoRaven

Member
As an outsider who has only seen one Chikara event and who only knows about Chikara based on what I've read here, if this really is a work, it will not get me suddenly interested in watching Chikara.
 
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Mr. Luchador

Member
Mr. Sandman said:
Saw that last night, I'm convinced it's a big angle but I'm not convinced of the payoff of said angle. It could either turn out to be the biggest thing a wrestling company has done in years or it could backfire and turn their fan base against them.

No wrestling company has ever closed up shop for an angle, not even temporarily. Even WCW co-branded events nWo/WCW when they were doing that takeover angle......the shows still went on. It's an unprecedented risk. Even if they're replacing shows with the "Wrestling Is..." brands, the payoff has to be massive or I can see a lot of damage done to the Chikara brand.
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Aye, no idea what the pay off could be.

I did find it interesting that the ending comment of the iPPV was someone saying 'Wait a minute... I just saw Archibold Peck back there!'
 
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BillRiccio

Member
Mr. Sandman said:
Chikara news:

I'm also puzzled as to what the end game on this angle is. Why shut down your company at the height of it's popularity (not buying that it was in the red at all) and take a risk that could hurt the brand?

I'm especially puzzled by the decision to liquidate merch and other physical assets.
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I feel bad for the people that thought the whole shut down was real. This is CHIKARA were talking about everything they do is kayfabe. The ending of the iPPV played exactly into storyline. My opinion is that the whole liquidation was just storyline to fool the smart marks even more then they already are. While the "shut down"seems odd at the height of its popularity it has more people talking about the promotion then ever before. Will be interesting to see if it pays off.

Mr. Luchador said:
Big post from Reddit (sorry).
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Thanks for posting this it does a really good job explaining everything to people who didn't follow every little plot twist the past two years.

Also Lance Steele had the Wrestling Is Fun championship banana with him in the balcony with Swamp Monster at the WTGP. This is interesting because Jaka ate the banana at the WIF show before the WTGP.


This would be a great time to start following CHIKARA and the Wrestling Is groups because it is the start of the storyline.
 
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somedevil

Member
Mr. Sandman said:
Saw that last night, I'm convinced it's a big angle but I'm not convinced of the payoff of said angle. It could either turn out to be the biggest thing a wrestling company has done in years or it could backfire and turn their fan base against them.

No wrestling company has ever closed up shop for an angle, not even temporarily. Even WCW co-branded events nWo/WCW when they were doing that takeover angle......the shows still went on. It's an unprecedented risk. Even if they're replacing shows with the "Wrestling Is..." brands, the payoff has to be massive or I can see a lot of damage done to the Chikara brand.
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My problem is this angle is not for the Casuals who watch Chikara because they wouldn't understand whats happening and turn them off from watching it or actually make them believe the promotion is out of business.

jmdajr said:
haven't seen swagger in awhile.
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Maybe they are finally punishing him for driving while high.
 
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mouserat

Neo Member
This has been bothering me since last night, does Ryback understand what 'the missing link' actually references? If he did he would surely see the hypocrisy. He might as well have called Bryan a bald meathead, or made fun of his dumb beanie hat.
 
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Kaladin

Member
This was posted on the Chikara 101 Message board about an hour ago:

1) We will immediately begin liquidating all remaining CHIKARA assets, starting with merchandise. We will honor all orders placed through the online store by June 30th. Wholesalers looking to buy bulk quantities of a gross or more should contact a.frady@titorconglomerate.com We cannot produce new inventory to satisfy all requests, but reasonable offers will be discussed.

Parties interested in a collapsible entrance set-up, lighting equipment (including 4 LED blast panels) and/or audio equipment (with 3 wireless mics) should use the email address above. We appreciate your business.

2) We are not in the process of beginning social media marketing, rather, it is now at a conclusion. Be cautious of fraudulent accounts.

3) Baseless accusations against a respected multi-national will not be tolerated in this forum any longer.
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Jitters

Member
With Rampage coming over, Taryn showing she could be a huge star, and Bully being one of the best heels around, TNA could do some amazing things. If only they had Curtis Axel.
 
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bangai-o

Banned
here are some of my grandma's reactions to last night.

"I hope that big guy Kane comes out with Bryan to save Randy Orton" at the beginning.

Referring to the magic trick recap, "This is stupid" and leaves to go check on the roast in the kitchen.

"That guy is too old to be fighting" at Triple H

"Where is Cm Punk?" during the Jericho segment.

"I cant watch this. He is always getting beat up. " *goes back to kitchen* concerning Cena.
 
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Kaladin

Member
Does anyone buy Chikara being in the red since their Joshimania events didn't go over well in 2011? It must have been expensive to bring in all of that talent, but they haven't shown any signs of a company being in the red...just the opposite in fact. They've been expanding and having some great crowds and positive reactions to their product.
 
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Mr. Robot

Member
mouserat said:
This has been bothering me since last night, does Ryback understand what 'the missing link' actually references? If he did he would surely see the hypocrisy. He might as well have called Bryan a bald meathead, or made fun of his dumb beanie hat.
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Im pretty sure he knows, but they probably just wanted to play with the "missing" word...
 
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