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Just Cause 3 |OT| Procedural Chaos
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Just finished the PS4 version, 4/10 in its current state. Most of the missions are at best average, and then there are the multiple 'protect these stupid AI with health bars missions' which all are awful. Story is garbage, voice acting is bad. Horrible load times with challenges, I ended up skipping them all except to fill out the wingsuit tree and to get x2 ammo on special weapons. Aiming/shooting never felt good in the game, even with unlocking manual aiming.
The worst framerate problems I've seen in a game in a long time, every settlement and base I attacked was in slow motion at least half of the time, on foot or using the double missles chopper. The world looks nice but is basically empty, the few times I actually saw an animal in the environment, it was always just one, long stretches to see another one. Three of those points are for mostly the wingsuit but also the parachute and tether traversal, other point is the environment looks nice.
Didn't bother collecting the collectibles, have better things to do, like watching paint dry.
Also, hijacking cars, vehicles from civilians and having them die from jacking as the hero is a really odd choice since there is no repercussions.
The worst framerate problems I've seen in a game in a long time, every settlement and base I attacked was in slow motion at least half of the time, on foot or using the double missles chopper. The world looks nice but is basically empty, the few times I actually saw an animal in the environment, it was always just one, long stretches to see another one. Three of those points are for mostly the wingsuit but also the parachute and tether traversal, other point is the environment looks nice.
Didn't bother collecting the collectibles, have better things to do, like watching paint dry.
Also, hijacking cars, vehicles from civilians and having them die from jacking as the hero is a really odd choice since there is no repercussions.
Oh the mile high club is still there.
Just these days it's more the "down to earth club"
SJRB
Gold Member
Where is it? Haven't found any club or lounge bar, even though JC2 had plenty of either.
The thing I don't understand is I've had some challenges load in 5 seconds from the open world, then take 40 seconds to load when I retry after failing.
Yeah, they're nice but vacuous.
Reminds me of yet another thing Dying Light did perfectly - easter eggs which actually impact gameplay.
For instance you can find Excalibur - the sword in the stone - literally in a stone hidden away in a secret cranny. It breaks eventually but is super powerful.
And even more mind boggling, if you find a certain chimney in Dying Light's second map and do a certain thing (I can't remember what), you are teleported to a 3D version of Super Mario Bros 1-1 and if you manage to complete it, you unlock a game-changing wingsuit (not available in the entire game otherwise, unless you do this easter egg).
Now that is an easter egg. Loads more in the game, too, like a Destiny 'loot cave'.
I'm not excusing Avalanche here - but The Witcher 3 has the same thing. In TW3 if you fast travel even across the map (which is twice as detailed yet a similar size to JC3's) it takes all-in about 5-10 seconds. But if you die? Can take up to a minute.
It's because there's loads of info tied to your save (what's complete, what isn't, your upgrades, your current weapons and ammo, what's destroyed and what isn't, what cars you have or haven't unlocked, your exact X/Y/Z co-ordinates) so when the game loads it reads all that info into the RAM, and when you die it has to read all that info again, into the RAM, even though it's only stepping back a minute or two in time.
However, when you fast travel, all that info is already read into the RAM. It's literally just loading a new part of the map and moving your model. Nothing needs to be re-read into the gameworld except the physical location (which is super optimised obviously).
It's up on the northern coast of Maestrale, can't remember the exact location but a bit of beach cruising along that coastline and you'll find it
RumblingRosco
Member
Wow. The Justcause3mods.com website is my hero. I cannot believe that the introduction video we see every time we load JC3 is literally just there for "fun". I thought it was just a cute way to hide a really long initial load... but nope. The mod on JC3 removes the video and I get into the game at least 30 seconds faster without that stupid unskippable video.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Man the map is broken when you get to 60% completion or so. 10+ seconds to become functional. It needs a separate loading screen. They should have just made separate maps for each region.
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
FUCK YES.
darthkarki
Member
Oh, awesome! Thanks for posting that, that is awesome to know. They have infinite beacons too which I will definitely install. I can't believe they added this arbitrary limit system on the rebel drops after going on and on in interviews about how much fun the devs have just spawning stuff in, so they thought "why not add that to the game?" They take out cash, but then just replace it with beacons. :/
Whatever. That's what mods are for
RumblingRosco
Member
Oh, awesome! Thanks for posting that, that is awesome to know. They have infinite beacons too which I will definitely install. I can't believe they added this arbitrary limit system on the rebel drops after going on and on in interviews about how much fun the devs have just spawning stuff in, so they thought "why not add that to the game?" They take out cash, but then just replace it with beacons. :/
Whatever. That's what mods are for
No problem. Someone posted it in this thread yesterday or so which is how I found it. I'm always nervous about using other mods that unlock stuff because it might ruin the fun for me in the long run, but I was happy to install the mod to skip that damn intro.
Wingsuit challenges are fun, managed to get a perfect run on this one despite clipping the wall and losing speed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VUtLubwd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VUtLubwd0
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Can you explain how to install that? I read the instructions but they don't really make any sense and I'm not a stranger to installing mods. It says to make sure the folder named dropzone is going into the dropzone folder in the game directory. Well there's no dropzone folder there. Is it just worded poorly and trying to say to place the folder in the game directory not merge it to an already existing folder named that?
RumblingRosco
Member
The dropzone folder is what is extracted from the zip. Just put that folder in the JC3 directory. I had the same question and figured it out once I unzipped the download. Once unzipped, you literally have a folder called "Dropzone" ...yeah, bad instructions on that website IMO.
Cheat Code
Member
Some of these challenges are complete bollocks.
I have an absolutely perfect flying run and get 30 milliseconds over every time. Not to mention the fast travel bullshit beacons are tied to these challenges.
I have an absolutely perfect flying run and get 30 milliseconds over every time. Not to mention the fast travel bullshit beacons are tied to these challenges.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Ah thanks, damn that's much better not having to put up with that anymore. What a weird design idea to just throw in an artificial blocker like that for no reason but cool points. They could have at least rendered it in decent quality if they wanted us to stare at it so much.
The flying ones are bad, whoever had the bright idea of mapping nitro to thrust should be whipped for stupidity.
The planes always go slower when R2/T is not held in but the only way to recharge nitro is to let it go of the trigger and let the plane go slower thus defeating the fucking point of nitro in planes
Are you guys using the default planes for the challenge? I was going to wait until I find a jet before starting the challenges, should be 10x easier then. It has at least made a lot of the races easier having the F1 car for land races
Nah, I've been taking jets over each time, haven't unlocked a jet yet so have to fly one to the start each time
Are you guys using the default planes for the challenge? I was going to wait until I find a jet before starting the challenges, should be 10x easier then. It has at least made a lot of the races easier having the F1 car for land races
Qwell
Member
Yah I unlocked the fighter jet early and just used that for everything, only one challenge gave me a slight issue and it was the challenge that defaulted to the fighter jet. I have everything under the plane gear available now which is great. Planes and Helos whenever I want.Are you guys using the default planes for the challenge? I was going to wait until I find a jet before starting the challenges, should be 10x easier then. It has at least made a lot of the races easier having the F1 car for land races
If you squeeze the trigger halfway then you get throttle without using nitro. I found out by accident.
FreeQuebec86
Member
Rico vs a Toilet Cabin... Just Cause!
http://gfycat.com/DelightfulWaryGrebe
From my video of yesterday! 30 000 view now :O:O:O!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xohI7o5438
http://gfycat.com/DelightfulWaryGrebe
From my video of yesterday! 30 000 view now :O:O:O!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xohI7o5438
Glad you liked it.
Here's 11 seconds of JC3 almost giving me a heart attack
I'm hoping that something like that is in the works for an official release on all platforms. If I recall, they said that the game wouldn't launch with multiplayer, without saying that the game would never have multiplayer.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
So I played the game a bit more last night, this time signed out of PSN, and I noticed the load times were definitely improved, especially regarding challenge retries. I'd guess they were about 20 seconds or so. That gives me hope that they can be patched and improved significantly.
Also ran into my first crippling slowdown, during a story mission where I was riding on top of a truck while it raced down the highway, pursued by helicopters and military trucks. Game literally slowed to single digit frames and became unplayable, especially when I tried to grapple onto the pursuers and take over their vehicles -- which leads me to a question -- weren't you able to board the tops of vehicles in JC2 and rotate the stick around and shoot different occupants? JC3 just didn't seem very smooth in this regard, but maybe I've got rose-tinted glasses on, not sure.
Also ran into my first crippling slowdown, during a story mission where I was riding on top of a truck while it raced down the highway, pursued by helicopters and military trucks. Game literally slowed to single digit frames and became unplayable, especially when I tried to grapple onto the pursuers and take over their vehicles -- which leads me to a question -- weren't you able to board the tops of vehicles in JC2 and rotate the stick around and shoot different occupants? JC3 just didn't seem very smooth in this regard, but maybe I've got rose-tinted glasses on, not sure.
Cheat Code
Member
Which idiot decided to gate the tether skills behind a fucking abhorrent minigame THAT DOESN'T USE THE TETHER. Nothing says fun tethering like shepherding a load of rocks into a pit.
That is awesome, haha
Krappadizzle
Member
They said the same thing for JC2 and that never was patched with MP on consoles. With all the technical issues they have with SP, MP is a pipe dream on PS4/XB1. I'd love to be wrong though.
cantona222
Member
The game is becoming repetatie and boring. Currently I have to capture mutiple outposts in order to open new story missions. Also I am getting bored with the challenges. So how are you guys playing the game? I mean what is your recipe of switching between different missions/challenges in order not to get bored.
sneakypete
Member
Wingsuit.. wingsuit.. wingsuit.. oh hey a goat - booster rocket slingshot - wingsuit.. wingsuit.. oh hey a plane - never forget - wingsuit.. wingsuit..
Then I do a couple missions. Maybe airdrop that super fast lambo looking car and try to find a jump. Liberated the first island last night and started getting all of the collectables and doing all of the worthwhile challenges(while wingsuiting and fucking around).
Then I do a couple missions. Maybe airdrop that super fast lambo looking car and try to find a jump. Liberated the first island last night and started getting all of the collectables and doing all of the worthwhile challenges(while wingsuiting and fucking around).
FreeQuebec86
Member
Me, i "explore" randomly and give me goal and try to make them happen.
I see it more ( to date ) as a "Stunt simulator" and explosion simulator.
SJRB
Gold Member
I've had this more than once, the game auto-saves extremely frequently so chances are you didn't lose any progress.
Found it. Rather anti-climactic, haha.
Absolutely. Easily the worst part of the game. They shouldnt have even bothered to put them in. If they wanted to lock upgrades, put them behind natural mechanics used in the game. C4 upgrades through kills/use of C4. Gun upgrades through headshots, shooting a hanging/tethered enemy, etc. Its so cumbersome to get to the more fun stuff.
It is this kind of stuff that makes me wonder who greenlit certain stuff. There is no way these guys played this game and thought the vehicle handling was good or the challenges were good. The loading screen says practice makes perfect but who wants to keep replaying to unlock gear mods when the load time to restart is longer than the challenge? Really odd design decision. The room for error in these challenges is a sliver.
I played the last Just Cause multiple times and sank hundreds of hours in but I cand to that this time around with the best gear mods being too tucked away. I really hope they would patch something to fix this or just put in a mod to massovely multiply challenge scores but I have little faith in them at this point. If they do makes these challenges give 5 gears more readily, I will gladly play this game over and over. As it is now, I barely feel like finishing.
The ones where you shoot up an empty base aren't much better,
QuantumSquid
Member
I've played for quite a while on Xbox and the framerate is horrendous. If this game required precise aiming it would absolutely be unplayable, but fortunately the generous auto-aim saves it.
edgefusion
Member
What is with these constant disconnects I keep getting? Every 40 minutes or so the game pauses to tell me it's disconnected! If I enter offline mode the bastard thing just reconnects as soon as I open the menu. Infuriating! Just let me be offline if you can't stay connected! I don't care about shitty leaderboards!
KiefbladeMaster
Member
Yes, crashing sometimes for me on PS4
Yay, my clip made it onto Kotaku's Highlight Reel!
https://youtu.be/NZQ2iJXyFN0?t=125
https://youtu.be/NZQ2iJXyFN0?t=125
Ugh I want to like this game more than I can ... the load times are absolutely criminal. I've been waiting for a load for like 10 minutes now and it's still going. This is insane, and it's not like you can stop it for fear of corrupting a save or something. I like so much about it, but this just destroys the fun.
Sometimes, it loads fast, sometimes it takes a minute or two, then for no discernible reason, you get these ungodly waits. I've actually been playing as long as I've been waiting for a load this time ...
Edit: Total load time just over 10 1/2 minutes on the PS4 ... crazy.
Sometimes, it loads fast, sometimes it takes a minute or two, then for no discernible reason, you get these ungodly waits. I've actually been playing as long as I've been waiting for a load this time ...
Edit: Total load time just over 10 1/2 minutes on the PS4 ... crazy.