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[DBT85]

What I never understand is the people who say that a console/handheld is their favorite platform of all time, it gets most of their gaming time, it's the very best, and they don't care how well it sells.

How is that possible? If your very favorite platform ever isn't doing well, doesn't that decrease the software support? Isn't it bad for something you love to be less viable for frequent or long term use? Shouldn't you want Sony to take more of an active hand in promoting such a great system?

I love my Vita, but I'm also really unhappy with its horrible sales and what that might mean about future software support for the system. It's actually possible for both feelings to coexist! In fact, it's logical.

I totally understand people wanting Sony to do more to push the console. I want more games to be made for it or ported to it, I want more people to play with and I want more people to see how much fun the device can give with the content out there right now, not in 6-12 months time. But nothing I say or do is going to make the Vita a commercial success. Only Sony can change its fortunes with the decisions they make.

At the present I think the biggest issue is still the cost of entry which seems to be coming down a little with some of the bundles now available in the UK, though the memory cards really do need to drop in price. Were Sony in a better place financially then maybe they would have dropped the price of everything already, maybe they wouldn't. Maybe they'll drop the price by 25% and still nothing will happen.

I play my Vita every day, I play it more than any other games providing machine at present. This week I've been playing it in the living room while using my PS3 to play Red Dwarf from Netflix.

I spent nigh on £400 around the launch week for my 3G Vita, my 32gb card, the retail games, the PSN games, a case etc. In the interim time I've spent some more, not all on Vita stuff, some on PS1 or PSP games too.

If Sony pull the plug tomorrow and declare that no more software will ever be released then sure, I might be bummed that I won't get the likes of Ruin or the vaporware FFX. I'll be annoyed that I won't get Rayman Origins 2 on the go with the vibrant screen and the excellent d-pad, that I won't ever get that Netflix app in the UK or that Bend won't pump out another excellent game for it. Anyone who owns one would be annoyed at that.

But I was there, I bought one, I played the games, I have dozens still to even start. Do people who bought a Dreamcast wish that it had been a commercial success? Of course they do. Are they complaining that they had one? That they played those games, that they had that system, that they wasted that money? No, they just wish it had all gone down differently.

Honestly, I've already gotten plenty of value out of my spend and with the PSP and PS1 games that I never played before to play through as well, I have enough content to last me years without a new game ever being released. I've got far bigger things in my life that actually deserve concern and worry than what fate will eventually befall a handheld games console.

Whatever happens, however we end up remembering the Vita in 10-15 years time, micro-analysing every minute detail of it's highs and lows, I can happily say that I bought what was in my opinion the greatest handheld system that had ever been released at the time. I played the games, I had countless hours of enjoyment and it was killed prematurely/lived a long successful life/whatever.

At this stage, for me, how it sells is Sony's concern. Not mine. I've gotten what I came for and everything else is just gravy. I've spent more and gotten less out of other products before, and I'll do the same in the future I have no doubt.

 

[Jawmuncher]

, I can happily say that I bought what was in my opinion the greatest handheld system that had ever been released at the time. I played the games, I had countless hours of enjoyment and it was killed prematurely/lived a long successful life/whatever.
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Agreed
(Also all of that was a great post)

 

[kitch9]

Vitas problem is price.

That can always be fixed, Sony obviously aren't ready to fix that yet, and people saying that Sony should discontinue the console before even adjusting its price point are quite frankly, off their tits....

 

[kerrak]

I think the Vita is a stunning piece of hardware with great software lineup but I don't think that I'll ever buy it and it's pretty simple why:

1. I don't commute and for me that's a huge factor in owning a handheld.

2. Even though games look amazing on Vita and there are some great "AAA" (I hate that word) games on it, I prefer to play those on my PC or X360/PS3 (comfy couch+big TV factor). Why would I play my games on Vita after 8-10hr workday staring at CAD screens and project calculations? I don't think my eyes could handle it...

So overall, it's a great piece of hardware but I personally don't need it with PC/X360/PS3 providing loads of fun for me (+ the fact that I have a hefty backlog). Vita is offering a phenomenal gaming experience, but it's just not something that I need or that I actually want to play on a handheld. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do however wish them the best and hope they can turn things around for Vita.

I think you should try it. Vita screen is extremely pleasant and big enough. I work with screens all day too and screen fatigue has never been a concern, much less an issue. The normal size/degree/distance to the screen ratio is equivalent to a 50'' sitting 3 metres (10 feet) away from you. You can play it on your comfy couch too, as well as your comfy bed and your comfy balcony/terrace chair. It is as comfortable to have in your hands as a regular controller. It's a very different take from the "home theater" experience, absolutely complementary. Plus it has a sleep function and a few f2p or dirt cheap games that increase its' everyday appeal. And unless you are a "one or two genres" gamer, there is plenty of games out today.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I really hope Vita sticks around. I don't have one, but I've always considered one. One of the reasons I appreciate the Vita is because for the money, it is actually admirable and powerful technology. Normally, portable systems have lackluster hardware.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

I just bought VLR for my Vita.

What the hell is VLR? According to MC, the only game starting with V on Vita is Virtua Tennis 4.

 

[Mr. Fix]

What the hell is VLR? According to MC, the only game starting with V on Vita is Virtua Tennis 4.

Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward. Sequel to the DS game, 999.

 

[Jawmuncher]

EDIT:BEATEN

 

[kerrak]

But I was there, I bought one, I played the games, I have dozens still to even start. Do people who bought a Dreamcast wish that it had been a commercial success? Of course they do. Are they complaining that they had one? That they played those games, that they had that system, that they wasted that money? No, they just wish it had all gone down differently.

Well put.

 

[Hanmik]

So what you are saying is that doomsday people were right all this time.. 21/12-2012.

why can´t people just have fun with the console/handheld they bought.. ? why is it so hard to understand some people don´t care about statistics and doomsday predictions..? many people enjoy their Vita and are glad they bought it.

 

[Oersted]

Such a time-saver

 

[j0hnny_385]

I think you should try it. Vita screen is extremely pleasant and big enough. I work with screens all day too and screen fatigue has never been a concern, much less an issue. The normal size/degree/distance to the screen ratio is equivalent to a 50'' sitting 3 metres (10 feet) away from you. You can play it on your comfy couch too, as well as your comfy bed and your comfy balcony/terrace chair. It is as comfortable to have in your hands as a regular controller. It's a very different take from the "home theater" experience, absolutely complementary. Plus it has a sleep function and a few f2p or dirt cheap games that increase its' everyday appeal. And unless you are a "one or two genres" gamer, there is plenty of games out today.

All your points are valid but even if I got it today, I honestly don't know when would I play it considering how little time I have for gaming + the aforementioned X360/PS3/PC gaming that I already have.
Honestly it's the same reason why I won't but a Wii U or any other piece of gaming-related hardware for a while now.

But I still think that Vita is a great piece of hardware with a growing number of good games and it deserves a better success and a better commitment from Sony.

 

[Oersted]

So what you are saying is that doomsday people were right all this time.. 21/12-2012.

why can´t people just have fun with the console/handheld they bought.. ? why is it so hard to understand some people don´t care about statistics and doomsday predictions..? many people enjoy their Vita and are glad they bought it.

The same reason why people here are constantly saying WiiU will be outdated. That kid, just enjoying the new toy, is pretty much dead inside us.

 

[daoster]

I totally understand people wanting Sony to do more to push the console. I want more games to be made for it or ported to it, I want more people to play with and I want more people to see how much fun the device can give with the content out there right now, not in 6-12 months time. But nothing I say or do is going to make the Vita a commercial success. Only Sony can change its fortunes with the decisions they make.

At the present I think the biggest issue is still the cost of entry which seems to be coming down a little with some of the bundles now available in the UK, though the memory cards really do need to drop in price. Were Sony in a better place financially then maybe they would have dropped the price of everything already, maybe they wouldn't. Maybe they'll drop the price by 25% and still nothing will happen.

If Sony pull the plug tomorrow and declare that no more software will ever be released then sure, I might be bummed that I won't get the likes of Ruin or the vaporware FFX. I'll be annoyed that I won't get Rayman Origins 2 on the go with the vibrant screen and the excellent d-pad, that I won't ever get that Netflix app in the UK or that Bend won't pump out another excellent game for it. Anyone who owns one would be annoyed at that.

But I was there, I bought one, I played the games, I have dozens still to even start. Do people who bought a Dreamcast wish that it had been a commercial success? Of course they do. Are they complaining that they had one? That they played those games, that they had that system, that they wasted that money? No, they just wish it had all gone down differently.

Honestly, I've already gotten plenty of value out of my spend and with the PSP and PS1 games that I never played before to play through as well, I have enough content to last me years without a new game ever being released. I've got far bigger things in my life that actually deserve concern and worry than what fate will eventually befall a handheld games console.

At this stage, for me, how it sells is Sony's concern. Not mine. I've gotten what I came for and everything else is just gravy. I've spent more and gotten less out of other products before, and I'll do the same in the future I have no doubt.

I'm sorry, but if I were to spend $400 dollars (and in fact, I DID spend close to $400 dollars on a 3G launch unit and launch games) and the Vita were to be pulled the plug tomorrow, I would be more than "annoyed" or "bummed," I'd be fucking pissed off, and would seriously think twice before investing in another Sony console. I put down that money with the expectation that (like most of my previous Sony systems) the system would be supported for a decent amount of time, by both Sony and third parties.

And yes, if I had owned a Dreamcast during it's time of death, I would have considered it a waste of money.

I'm glad you and some other Vita owners are on this whole "kumbaya, I was THERE, I experienced it, i got so many games on my backlog" thing but I did not invest $400 dollars on a system for it to go down the drain and see Sony do almost nothing about it.

And I'm sorry, Sony is doing almost nothing about it. Again, I will say this: Sony's E3 conference and TGS conference did nothing to give me confidence as a Vita owner. Hell, Sony's E3 spent more time on a shitty Move game than on it's just recently launched Next Gen Portable. And what was TGS's biggest news for the Vita? A PSP Up-port of a Monster Hunter clone?

I kind of made this joke earlier this year, but it was definitely true: it seems like as Vita owners, we were stringed along at this year's game show. "Don't worry, wait for E3/Gamescom/TGS, you won't be disappointed with what we have in store for the Vita!"

And to ALL of you who are saying that they want the Vita to die so that "Sony can focus all it's attention on PS4," you are deluding yourself. If Sony can't even handle the Vita, what makes you think the PS4 will be better handled?

 

[.la1n]

Sony killing hardware they spent a fortune developing? No. The games that are tailored for the system are great. I'd be more interested in seeing what's on the table next year. I'll admit it doesn't get as much playtime as when I first bought it but there has been a steady enough stream of content that it's justified the purchase for me personally. Obviously not every system is for everyone but outright saying a system should be killed off? That's silly.

R.I.P Dreamcast

 

[pslayer666]

So, once the Wii-U launches, will the 'vita is doomed camp' move onwards and upgrade to a 'The Wii-U is doomed camp' or will we still keep getting this kind of threads?

I have to admit they are a great time waster when you have nothing better to do at work.

 

[Celine]

So, once the Wii-U launches, will the 'vita is doomed camp' move onwards and upgrade to a 'The Wii-U is doomed camp' or will we still keep getting this kind of threads?

If it sell as badly as Vita that's for sure.

 

[pslayer666]

If it sell as badly as Vita that's for sure.

I don't think it'll sell as bad as the Vita did. It's gonna be sold-out as well for the first few months it seems.

I don't think there was a matter of people wanting to buy a Vita and not being able to get one during the launch early days, was there?

Well, I suppose the Vita is more doomed than the Wii-U then.

 

[zoukka]

Vita still looks like a PSP-2 to me and the PSP wasn't a very good handheld device. It was a mini home console to me.

 

[TrutaS]

Relevant exclusives are the main drive for a platform. For me Vita doesn't exist until it has one, thankfully the hardware is powerful enough that it may last till one is properly made.

 

[DBT85]

I'm sorry, but if I were to spend $400 dollars (and in fact, I DID spend close to $400 dollars on a 3G launch unit and launch games) and the Vita were to be pulled the plug tomorrow, I would be more than "annoyed" or "bummed," I'd be fucking pissed off, and would seriously think twice before investing in another Sony console. I put down that money with the expectation that (like most of my previous Sony systems) the system would be supported for a decent amount of time, by both Sony and third parties.

And yes, if I had owned a Dreamcast during it's time of death, I would have considered it a waste of money.

I'm glad you and some other Vita owners are on this whole "kumbaya, I was THERE, I experienced it, i got so many games on my backlog" thing but I did not invest $400 dollars on a system for it to go down the drain and see Sony do almost nothing about it.

And I'm sorry, Sony is doing almost nothing about it. Again, I will say this: Sony's E3 conference and TGS conference did nothing to give me confidence as a Vita owner. Hell, Sony's E3 spent more time on a shitty Move game than on it's just recently launched Next Gen Portable. And what was TGS's biggest news for the Vita? A PSP Up-port of a Monster Hunter clone?

The point is that Sony will not just pull the plug. The very idea that Yoshida or Kaz will come out, do a 17 minute bow and say "that's it folks" is absurd. Sony will support it in one way or another. I want them to do more, I want them to seem to fucking try, but what I want and what they do are often wildly different.

I bought the Vita to play games on, that is exactly what I am doing with it and what I'll continue to do on it for years to come. I HOPE that means I'll also be enjoying the fruits of new games, but there's sweet fuck all me worrying about it is going to do.

I could sit here and reel off a list of shit they could do to maybe solve the problem. Yet I doubt any of it would be something that didn't already crop up at one of the (I'm sure) many meetings the brass have had with the agendum being simply "What the fuck are we going to do with this".

I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to do or say. I own one, I regret nothing, I hope that it get's a decent influx of new owners and games in the next 12 months so that 3rd party support picks up. I am enjoying my Vita more than any system I've ever owned, though honestly I've not owned many, yet I don't make games, I don't write a blog or reviews for games (aside from about 3 articles on nearvita), I don't sell games, so in no way can I influence anyone to buy one on a mass scale.

It's rare that I post in these kind of threads simply because it's all been said already. Drop the price, drop the memory card price, release more games both dedicated and multiplats. A thread could be made with that title and locked with no additional posts in it. It would contain the essence of every one of these threads distilled into the core issues. Yet week after week, thread after thread, we go around and around going absolutely nowhere.

Relevant exclusives are the main drive for a platform. For me Vita doesn't exist until it has one, thankfully the hardware is powerful enough that it may last till one is properly made.

Do you define exclusive as a unique IP or a franchise with it's own stand out entry on that console?

 

[Shion]

Sony's attitude towards Vita proves they couldn't care less.

I read this everywhere but it's just not true.

- Sony cared enough to have one of the best launch line-ups ever.

- Sony cared enough to release many first-party games, 4 of which had exceptional production values, in less than a year's time.

- Sony cared enough to have a lot of content in the PSN store.

- Sony cared enough to have 2 of the biggest western franchises on the Vita.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new (exclusive) Killzone game for the western audience.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Tearaway in hope that they find a hit for the mass market.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Soul Sacrifice in hope that they find a hit for the jpn market.


Is it working? No.

But I'm not sure how can anyone look at the facts and say that Sony 'couldn't care less' about the Vita.

 

[sajj316]

19 pages in, what's the consensus? Kill it with fire? I think a lethal injection of sales figures will do the track ...

 

[liger05]

I read this everywhere but it's just not true.

- Sony cared enough to have one of the best launch line-ups ever.

- Sony cared enough to release many first-party games, 4 of which had exceptional production values, in less than a year's time.

- Sony cared enough to have a lot of content in the PSN store.

- Sony cared enough to have 2 of the biggest western franchises on the Vita.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new (exclusive) Killzone game for the western audience.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Tearaway in hope that they find a hit for the mass market.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Soul Sacrifice in hope that they find a hit for the jpn market.


Is it working? No.

But I'm not sure how can anyone look at the facts and say that Sony 'couldn't care less' about the Vita.

Cancelled Vita Heaven's, E3 and TGS show they dont know what they are doing or dont care.

 

[staticneuron]

But I'm not sure how can anyone look at the facts and say that Sony 'couldn't care less' about the Vita.

I think some believe if they spread enough misinformation, it will be treated as true information. Seems to work to an extent. The idea that Sony hasn't supported or "respected" the Vita seems to repeated despite the actual truth about the effort and first party studios that have worked on it. Not even mentioning the attempts sony has made with devs outside their internal teams.

 

[AOC83]

they dont know what they are doing or dont care.

It´s the first one, if they´d know what they are doing they wouldn´t have released the Vita in the first place.

 

[Yopis]

So what you are saying is that doomsday people were right all this time.. 21/12-2012.

why can´t people just have fun with the console/handheld they bought.. ? why is it so hard to understand some people don´t care about statistics and doomsday predictions..? many people enjoy their Vita and are glad they bought it.

Wonder this myself. Maybe people feel threatened by other devices. Honestly seems like these threads pop up from non owners when big vita games come out. Like another poster said I think vita is the best hh ever. The fact 3rd parties wont push the system is sad but I did my part.

System is made for gamers totally. On a gaming forum (the best gaming forum) the hate it gets blows my mind. People like ios,more and its a multi use device that makes no priority for gaming. Scary times indeed.

 

[BigDaddyFatSack]

Would rather play console games on the console with big screen hdtv bro.

 

[kitch9]

Vita still looks like a PSP-2 to me and the PSP wasn't a very good handheld device. It was a mini home console to me.

I'm sorry, what the hell does this even mean?

 

[MagiusNecros]

I'm sorry, what the hell does this even mean?

PSP2 sux

That's what I got.

I think the PSP GO was the best thing ever. I am totally not sarcastic.

 

[CoachKevin]

I read this everywhere but it's just not true.

- Sony cared enough to have one of the best launch line-ups ever.

- Sony cared enough to release many first-party games, 4 of which had exceptional production values, in less than a year's time.

- Sony cared enough to have a lot of content in the PSN store.

- Sony cared enough to have 2 of the biggest western franchises on the Vita.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new (exclusive) Killzone game for the western audience.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Tearaway in hope that they find a hit for the mass market.

- Sony cares enough to produce a new IP like Soul Sacrifice in hope that they find a hit for the jpn market.


Is it working? No.

But I'm not sure how can anyone look at the facts and say that Sony 'couldn't care less' about the Vita.

There is doing something, and then their is doing something right.

CoD on the Vita is a train wreck, being handled by a developer that is set to change their name and start making iOS games. AC3: Liberation is full of bugs, terrible audio, and an obviously rushed ending.

And I keep going back to them just needing to market the thing more. And when they do talk up big western games, they need to make sure they are actually good, not just titles with name recognition.

As a new Vita owner (AC3 bundle) it looks like my Vita is going to mostly play PSP stuff down the road. And I will not upgrade my memory card from the 4GB that was included until the ridiculous prices go down.

My PSP 3000 has a 32GB memory card in it. IT COST $23 shipped from Amazon 3 months ago. They need to get that 32GB card under $60 at least. 16GB under $30.

 

[Bumhead]

System is made for gamers totally. On a gaming forum (the best gaming forum) the hate it gets blows my mind. People like ios,more and its a multi use device that makes no priority for gaming. Scary times indeed.

iOS is a perfectly legitimate gaming platform these days. The fact that Apple don't specifically market iDevices as gaming products is immeterial. The fact that it exists on multi use devices matters about as much to iOS as it does to Steam on PC.

Im generally supportive of the dedicated handheld market but I don't know how people still have such a hard time understanding why iOS is so popular, and amongst core gamers too.

 

[Erethian]

If you want to talk about how much Sony cares about the Vita, it's much more worthwhile to bring up something like them somehow managing to completely lose the biggest third-party IP of the PSP. Or launching a year later than the competition. Or the statements Yoshida has made that hint at a complete lack of foresight when it comes to engaging with publishers early and aggressively to secure third-party support well before the launch of the system.

Which speaks to incompetence more than malice, anyway.

 

[PrivateRyan]

I honestly think I'm happy with my Vita simply through the existence of Zen Pinball 2. Put a ridiculous amount of hours into that already, especially versus how much time I spent playing it on PS3.

One thing I think would really help Vita would be a regular influx of 'cheaper' games around the £10-£15 bracket. Stuff like Assassin's Creed: Liberation and CoD: Declassified is all well and good but given the price, it makes me think, why not just spend that same amount on the 'PS3 version' of that game?

And then I look at the stuff I've spent most of my time playing - Zen Pinball 2, Plants vs Zombies, MGS3 - and how I've bought them mostly because of they've come in at that cheaper price range.

Whether that's to do with how iOS games has altered price perception or not, I don't know. But personally, I know I want more games at that price range rather than 'bigger' IP at full price.

 

[mrklaw]

I just hope this thread and forum isn't representative of the wider market. Because if it is, all the price drops and great games in the world won't save it - the gloom and pessimism will stop people buying it anyway

 

[Amory]

Interesting time for this thread, considering the Vita just got Assassin's Creed Liberation and NFS:MW, which are both excellent. I'm actually more satisfied with my Vita now than I've ever been.

Plus P4 Golden is out later this month...

 

[metalslimer]

I just hope this thread and forum isn't representative of the wider market. Because if it is, all the price drops and great games in the world won't save it - the gloom and pessimism will stop people buying it anyway

The wider market doesn't even know what Vita is to be pessimistic about it. And I can't believe someone actually said that people shouldn't care about "statistics" in regards to Vita's chances at success. Why should I buy a device right now that is likely to be dead in less than a year?

 

[Erethian]

The wider market doesn't even know what Vita is to be pessimistic about it. And I can't believe someone actually said that people shouldn't care about "statistics" in regards to Vita's chances at success. Why should I buy a device right now that is likely to be dead in less than a year?

Yeah, I don't think anyone has to worry about pessimism in the market killing the Vita's sales. Ambivalence is doing that just fine already.

 

[DCharlie]

CoD on the Vita is a train wreck

my hopes aren't high - i assume you played it somewhere? Just how bad is it?

Cancelled Vita Heaven's, E3 and TGS

huh? Weird they cancelled TGS - how could they be there to pick up the Game of the Year award for a Vita game, or have new Vita games that were shown and reported on?

 

[Yopis]

iOS is a perfectly legitimate gaming platform these days. The fact that Apple don't specifically market iDevices as gaming products is immeterial. The fact that it exists on multi use devices matters about as much to iOS as it does to Steam on PC.

Im generally supportive of the dedicated handheld market but I don't know how people still have such a hard time understanding why iOS is so popular, and amongst core gamers too.

Just cant get into playing games on my gf iphone. Maybe its the quality of most games. Or the fact they are praised for being on par with past consoles graphics. Could be the lack,of proper input (buttons). Dont understand it.

With pc your not making input concessions at all. With most ios games you are from square one. Not really apples to apples comparison.Honestly I get the jist of what your saying though. Thanks for the reply.

 

[mocolostrocolos]

This first year has been solid. Many launch titles and decent ones coming month after month.

The big deal of Vita is the lack of future perspective.

 

[DCharlie]

Just cant get into playing games on my gf iphone. Maybe its the quality of most games. Or the fact they are praised for being on par with past consoles graphics. Could be the lack,of proper input (buttons). Dont understand it.

With pc your not making input concessions at all. With most ios games you are from square one. Not really apples to apples comparison.Honestly I get the jist of what your saying though. Thanks for the reply.

The iOS has consistantly provided all the experiences that hardcore gamers pretend they care about over and over and over and over again - that is games that are actually fun regardless of graphics.

the iOS platform has -easily- been the gaming platform of they year. Everyone else is eating soggy biscuit.

 

[Yopis]

The iOS has consistantly provided all the experiences that hardcore gamers pretend they care about over and over and over and over again - that is games that are actually fun regardless of graphics.

the iOS platform has -easily- been the gaming platform of they year. Everyone else is eating soggy biscuit.

Thanks for the non biased response:/

 

[liger05]

huh? Weird they cancelled TGS - how could they be there to pick up the Game of the Year award for a Vita game, or have new Vita games that were shown and reported on?

No they were @ TGS. They just didnt show anything which proved they actually have any idea on how to turn around the shocking sales performance in Japan.

 

[DCharlie]

Thanks for the non biased response:/

Haha, well - i'd never thought i'd add Apple to the list of companies i'm shilling for, but might as well complete the set!

it's quite simple - if you can't find a game you like on iOS - take up a new hobby - like knitting.

The amount of games perfectly suited and designed to portable gaming on iOS is absolutely insane. It seems every week or so there's the new funky thing at a low price that sucks everyone in, a week later it's something new - it's pretty much non-stop. I know it's not cool or fashionable, but there we go. I tried to hate iOS and "bu bu bu not real games <tipmagazinerack>" but ultimately it's doing everything right in the space it occupies.

Flippancy aside, if you seriously can't find a single game to enjoy then i'm baffled.

They just didnt show anything which proved they actually have any idea on how to turn around the shocking sales performance in Japan

didn't they announce a follow up to the 2012 TGS Game of the Year award winner, along with "needs a MH game" original title? .... :/

I'm perfectly honest - i have NO IDEA how they turn the Vita around outside of culling the hell out of the price and just going to every 3rd party and throwing cash at them to give them all their top titles whilst simultaneously pulling GT:VforV out of their backsides (AND it being completely rebuilt with mobile gaming in mind)

I have no idea how to appeal to "the mass market" as it's one big massive XYZ factor.

 

[mrklaw]

The iOS has consistantly provided all the experiences that hardcore gamers pretend they care about over and over and over and over again - that is games that are actually fun regardless of graphics.

the iOS platform has -easily- been the gaming platform of they year. Everyone else is eating soggy biscuit.

I'd still like buttons though.

If Apple provided an official bluetooth API to use analogue pads, and perhaps released their own, they could bloody own everyone. No more arguments about 'lol buttons'. Maybe they're just feeling generous?

 

[DCharlie]

I'd still like buttons though.

If Apple provided an official bluetooth API to use analogue pads, and perhaps released their own, they could bloody own everyone. No more arguments about 'lol buttons'. Maybe they're just feeling generous?

oh of course - if they provide a standardise API and then let people throw controllers at it then - good lord...

I mean - i have the iCade mini arcade for the old Ipad but if i could get a biscuit controller for the ipad mini that i could run iMame on, possibly beg Cave to retrofit actual controls into their shmups, etc.... then the machine becomes a pretty insane portable machine.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

I tend to find the issue with iOS a bit similar to Wii actually, only to the nth degree. It forces a less traditional gaming interface on you (somewhat equalizing core and casual gamers) and while there are amazing gems in it's library, you have to swim through an ocean of shit shovelware to find them. Some people just can't or won't take the effort needed and angrily write of the platform, everybody else has fun.

 

[staticneuron]

There is doing something, and then their is doing something right.

CoD on the Vita is a train wreck, being handled by a developer that is set to change their name and start making iOS games. AC3: Liberation is full of bugs, terrible audio, and an obviously rushed ending.

And I keep going back to them just needing to market the thing more. And when they do talk up big western games, they need to make sure they are actually good, not just titles with name recognition.

As a new Vita owner (AC3 bundle) it looks like my Vita is going to mostly play PSP stuff down the road. And I will not upgrade my memory card from the 4GB that was included until the ridiculous prices go down.

My PSP 3000 has a 32GB memory card in it. IT COST $23 shipped from Amazon 3 months ago. They need to get that 32GB card under $60 at least. 16GB under $30.

So why are you blaming Sony for third party mishaps. And WTH at the ACL ending. I am nowhere close. You kinda take the wind out of my sails on that one.

 

[mrklaw]

oh of course - if they provide a standardise API and then let people throw controllers at it then - good lord...

I mean - i have the iCade mini arcade for the old Ipad but if i could get a biscuit controller for the ipad mini that i could run iMame on, possibly beg Cave to retrofit actual controls into their shmups, etc.... then the machine becomes a pretty insane portable machine.

lets make something. you can fake digital controls via a keyboard easily enough, but you could handle analogue emulation too probably - just use letter combinations to represent analogue inputs.