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Via Purifico
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Yeah, and it is well deserved they are really good. Jang Beom-Jun is one of my favorite male vocalists his voice >>>>
Yeah he's got a really distinct voice. It's funny because the judges all told him his voice sucked and he was bringing down the band during Superstar K lol.
Via Purifico
Banned
In the words of Ga-In, Lie, don't lie don't lie. Who in their right mind would say his voice sucks? his voice is amazing. He can hit all the right notes and his voice is very distinct like you said.
I was blown away when i heard their debut album.
Well it's technically not that great which is how they judge on those shows.
It's perfect for the kind of music they play though. And they write great music. It's pretty much my go to Spring album when I'm in Korea, perfect to listen to while wandering around Yeouido with cherry blossoms around you.
DAT choreography.. I can't imagine the amount of work that went into this.
EXO Wolf Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elQdv7scgqw
EXO Wolf Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elQdv7scgqw
Via Purifico
Banned
Right, for the music they do its perfect so i am not getting how they can say it sucked.
K.Will is another male vocalist i enjoy.
Fei is victorious.
(Gyuri)
Pretty much spot on. From studying both Chinese and Japanese, I'd say Chinese is more difficult. The grammar of Chinese is surprisingly simple, while Japanese one is a bit tough to get a first. What really makes Chinese more difficult that Japanese is the ridiculous amount of characters and pronunciation.
I HATE YOU TONES!!!!!
Too bad the song sucks.
Via Purifico
Banned
More like an abomination why did SM choose that as the lead song to promote the album?.
Even the album medley was shit til i heard it in full and realized its quite good.
That would have been so awesome.
T-ara N4 mini fanmeeting after Music Core
http://youtu.be/GKFrjgcWNvw?hd=1
they talked with fans, so you know what that means. they were asked to do aeygo. cute video, skip to 1:10 if you bore easily. areum looks kind of pretty :3
QBS PV Shooting
http://youtu.be/h8HJDsGPPuQ
filmed on a beach in white dresses. i'm cool with this.
[ENG SUBS] Jiyeon/Hyomin Gag Concert
http://youtu.be/F10VQqWlXAo?hd=1
The worst language to learn is Russian; the grammar is confusing even to native speakers. Chinese grammar is very simple once you've gotten over the characters and the pronunciation. They actually don't even teach grammar in real Chinese schools; it's all about learning the characters.
English is hard?
Maybe because I speak Portuguese, but I think is pretty stupid-easy to learn.
Korean is not that hard too once you get the hang of things, the only problem is trying to guess how you write a word that you just heard, because of ㅎ, ㅋ, ㄱ, ㄲ etc. There are a lot of ways to write the same "sound".
I'm often watching dramas, I heard someone say "x", and I try to write that shit down on Google in so many ways, and end up not discovering what word it was lol.
Maybe because I speak Portuguese, but I think is pretty stupid-easy to learn.
Korean is not that hard too once you get the hang of things, the only problem is trying to guess how you write a word that you just heard, because of ㅎ, ㅋ, ㄱ, ㄲ etc. There are a lot of ways to write the same "sound".
I'm often watching dramas, I heard someone say "x", and I try to write that shit down on Google in so many ways, and end up not discovering what word it was lol.
English's difficulty is based on all the exceptions built into the language (the rules are broken pretty regularly) and the various colloquialisms expressions that's based on a language that's pretty much different in each country that's predominantly English spoken.
Think how Brazilian Portuguese is different than Portuguese Portuguese, than compound that factor 10 times.
Can't really say a lot about languages since I learned a lot of languages but only a bit then stopped.
French - Took it from elementary til first year of high school - I didn't find the grammar to be super difficult, I mostly had trouble with genders of words and remembering all the conjugations.
Japanese - Took throughout high school - The teachers made the course super easy so I didn't really feel challenged to actually learn the material well. I feel that Japanese is probably the most difficult language to learn. Kanji is a bitch.
Chinese - First year uni - I'm Chinese but don't know Chinese so I thought I should learn some. Already had a slight advantage you could say because I already understood like 70% of what the teacher was saying. The grammar was not too difficult (this was intro Chinese) but tones fuck me over so much.
Korean - Kinda self taught me the alphabet and how to read/write. I'm thinking of taking Korean for my next years at university and actually getting fluent in it by hopefully going to an exchange in 2014/15.
Still don't really know what I want to do with my life. I would love to be fluent in either Japanese/Chinese/Korean and maybe even live somewhere in Asia for awhile but I can't really decide where and I would want to learn the language associated with that country. Can anyone who lived in Korea/Japan/China/Hong Kong offer some advice of what they enjoyed/didn't enjoy in that respective country?
French - Took it from elementary til first year of high school - I didn't find the grammar to be super difficult, I mostly had trouble with genders of words and remembering all the conjugations.
Japanese - Took throughout high school - The teachers made the course super easy so I didn't really feel challenged to actually learn the material well. I feel that Japanese is probably the most difficult language to learn. Kanji is a bitch.
Chinese - First year uni - I'm Chinese but don't know Chinese so I thought I should learn some. Already had a slight advantage you could say because I already understood like 70% of what the teacher was saying. The grammar was not too difficult (this was intro Chinese) but tones fuck me over so much.
Korean - Kinda self taught me the alphabet and how to read/write. I'm thinking of taking Korean for my next years at university and actually getting fluent in it by hopefully going to an exchange in 2014/15.
Still don't really know what I want to do with my life. I would love to be fluent in either Japanese/Chinese/Korean and maybe even live somewhere in Asia for awhile but I can't really decide where and I would want to learn the language associated with that country. Can anyone who lived in Korea/Japan/China/Hong Kong offer some advice of what they enjoyed/didn't enjoy in that respective country?
If you wanna LIVE in a country, I don't think that's gonna help. If you were a tourist, we could give advice and share experiences in said countries so you could prepare yourself, make a list of things to do and places to go and what to expect from each country.
But living is different man. I can't profess my love for Korea hoping that you'll read it and think "Wow, that was a really passionate speech. I wanna live there too!". Mostly because, the *experiences* change you. I spent MY WHOLE LIFE in love with Japan. You have no idea how much time I spent watching animes, movies, doramas, crazy porns and discussing everything about Japan. I read a lot of sociological papers about them, about sexuality, about culture, about everything. Although I've never been to Japan, a few disappointments along the way happened, and today I don't feel anything towards Japan anymore.
Do you wanna know my history with Korea? Well, 10 years ago I discovered BoA, followed her career and as times goes by, I started watching dramas and movies, just for fun, because I like Asian as a whole. But LAST YEAR, out of the blue, after I got a little deeper into K-Pop, I had this crazy "trigger", and I said "I'm gonna learn Korean and I'm going to Korea. This YEAR". In August 2012 I started learning the language, took a flight to Seoul and spent December and January there.
I loved every single bit there. I wanted to ejaculate on the walls of the subway stations. Everything was so perfect, so in harmony, the place was just where I wanted to be, and guess what, Korea culture and way of thinking is SO similar to mine. And when I say "Korea was perfect", I don't mean a place without crime, hate or shitty politicians. All places have that. I mean it was the perfect FIT FOR ME. I'm 23 years old, I'm Brazilian. Can I tell you a little secret? I hate Brazil. I hate Brazilians. I can't tell exactly why, although I can give you political and sociological reasons. I NEVER felt comfortable among Brazilians. I never really found any people that thinks the same way I do. Since I was a kid I always felt more familiar with the Asian side of things. That's fucking funny because I'm black.
I want Korea the way it is. "Come As You Are", like the Nirvana song. I want Korea with its flaws, with the eternal conflict with North Korea, with the occasional racist pricks, with the fucking amazing subways, with the delicious food, with the tons of billions of plastic surgery, with everything.
I felt more at home in Korea than I ever felt in Brazil. I felt connected with everybody that I came in contact with. And I'm a pretty skeptic guy, atheist and shit, so I don't believe in "magical" explanations.
I have no idea what I wanna do with my life, but I know I wanna live there and somehow help the most that I can. I would live just fine working at a bar at Itaewon or Hongdae, but I also wanna do something more to benefit Koreans. With my Psychology major, I was thinking of working in some kind of non-profit organization or in some of those houses for old people and people with mental problems. I volunteered in Korea once and I will do again until forever. Even crossed my mind to work as a EMT (Paramedic), but I'm not sure I can handle it (I like biology, but I have issues lol).
My eyes are fucked up and my sight is bad, so I'm running out of time too. I gotta be fluent fast!
Anyway, my advice is: spend one or two months in each place. You'll automatically "connect" (or not) with one of them.
I feel even more close to Americans than Brazilians.
milkham
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I was just talking to my friend who lived in Beijing the last two years and Tokyo for the 10 or so before that.
Maybe it was just the environments he was in but he's been back a couple months and he says its refreshing how NICE americans are. In Japan he taught english for like 2 years then worked in various real estate companies. He told me it was pretty cut throat and it was every man for himself with backstabbing and withholding information etc. Beijing was a little different for him since he was in school but he told me that he felt constantly like people were out to make a buck off him, rip him off etc. He's chinese-american and pretty fluent in japanese so he can sort of pass as a native at first glance in both countries but still had plenty of unpleasant experiences. That said, he did stay in japan for quite a long time so it couldn't have been all bad. He's trying to find a job in Hong Kong now because he's sick of mainlanders. bonus tip, if the meat is too cheap, its not the kind of meat they told you it is.
neoism
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this come out today
:*( why the fuck make half an MV smh forever.... :/
AgentChris
Member
BIGBANG
Sounds just like me (except I want to be fluent in all 3).
The problem is I'm stuck on deciding what I want to really do. It's either medical field, engineering field, or economics. All very interesting subject ;_;
Its not great but, but the bass kinda redeems it a little.
Anyone know if they explain the reason for the wolf theme?
Both Korea and Japan are great places to live in terms of convenience and fun. I'd actually say I enjoyed Korea a bit more mostly down to the fact that I really like their drinking and night culture and get along with Korean people a little bit easier than I do Japanese people, mostly since they are a lot more direct and straight forward.
Both countries suffer from similar problems though and imo the quality of life is very different to here or America. I would find it hard to send my child to school in either country if I ever had one due to the stress, pressure and workload necessary.
Also the seniority levels which are so important in Korea can be incredibly frustrating at times. You'll essentially have to respect and listen to people older than you no matter what and I've had situations were complete dickheads and losers command respect without earning the right to.
There's also a lack of personal space with a lot of shoving and pushing. While Japan is a bit more civil regarding that and they really don't like being shoved or touched unnecessarily. Korean ahjumma are ruthless.
Japanese people are a lot kinder on first glance. In fact coming back from Japan and Korea it's easy to feel like Australians are really uncouth and rude. However Japanese people suffer from a cultural phenomenon called tatemae. This is basically a social wall they have that they will not break. It means they will always be polite and kind in front of you even if they don't mean it. If they have issues they'll say it behind your back.
It leads to a lot of confusion. I remember asking my host family if I could stay out late, they said yes so I came home late and they were angry. Because of course yes actually means no and I should have been able to understand that nuance in their answer lol.
I could go on for ages about the pros and cons of each country and it really depends on your living situation and expectations of the places. All of the cons I listed about Korea are things I just accepted and got used to while being there.
At the end of the day the only real huge negative thing is that in both countries you will never be fully accepted as being a citizen there no matter how good your language skills are or how long you're there.
A lot of Koreans I know call me Korean or joke around that I was born in Korea because of my language skills but at the end of the day I'm treated differently to their Korean friends because I'm white and always will be.
Don't wanna be misunderstood here, but Americans complain about this a lot, '' they'll never treat you like one of them''. Well, isn't this for everybody? Can I expect to go to the USA and be treated like an American instead of a silly Braz?
This is a empty complaint.
Since I'm culture less I don't see the problem with a lot of Korean specific things.
This is a empty complaint.
Since I'm culture less I don't see the problem with a lot of Korean specific things.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Depends on where you go. A monoculture reaction to outsiders will apply everywhere that is monoculture, but there are plenty of diverse cities in America where yeah, you'll be treated like everyone else once you have a good feel for how things work. When people grow up around people of all types and are taught that is what their homeland is, there is no pretense in their acceptance of people different from them.
I'm not American.
Australia is more multi cutural and the good Australians at least don't differentiate between white Australians and Australians that immigrated from other countries. That said the issue is that in Korea and Japan even second and third generations are not fully accepted as proper Koreans or Japanese. And although it may be getting better with this next generation, up until now raising foreign or half children in those countries has been hard and they face a lot of discrimination.
Also the point is not the label it's the treatment. Japanese and Korean people will often be super nice and accommodating to foreigners but that gets annoying quickly and it would be nice to be treated as a normal person the same as everyone else. On top of that and almost ironically there's also discrimination you will face.
milkham
Member
you'd fit right in here in nyc you silly braz
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missA_min
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staticneuron
Member
Depends on where you go. Prime example will be South Florida where there are alot of Brazilian Americans and Brazilian visitors. Knee jerk reactions don't happen as much in the cultural melting pot areas in America.
Well, unfortunately I can't understand what you mean. I KNOW what you are saying and I get it, but I can't "rationalize" it.
Foreigners like Brazil because "we" are heart-warming people. We take good care of foreigners, treat them well, are very approachable in the streets etc, so they "praise" us.
But when is the other way around, a lot of people complain about Jap/Kr because they are "treated as foreigners instead of a regular Korean".
Well, I don't know how to respond to that. I was beyond well-treated in Korea and I love it. I have countless stories about people doing things that I was "WTF?" because of how surprised I was. Once I took a bus and asked "This bus goes to x?" the driver said "Yes" and I jumped in. I was kinda sleepy and had no fucking idea where I was, so I had to pay attention to the voice in the bus, saying "Next stop is: x". But! I took a nap and fell asleep for a moment, and you won't believe, the bus driver stand off his seat, took a look at the back and said "Hey, this is x". I couldn't believe. I wanted to kiss and hug him. Obviously I bowed and said "Thank you very much and go safe" (in Korean).
But I was also treated like "every korean". I was running late at the bus stop and my bus just passed by, but "fortunately" a few meters after the stop they had a red light. The bus was at a red light, I stopped by the door and waved at the driver and he just told me to fuck off lol.
In a place such as Korea, with a strong homo culture and "race", I'm happy when people treat me well. Since everybody have a "american fetish", I would think that the only foreigners well treated there were americans (and other english countries, such Aus and Brit), but I'm not only from Brazil, but also black.
A lot of people poked me in subways and bus'es to ask me where I'm from, and started chatting.
Anyway, that's just me. I hope you get your "regular Korean" treatment.
I hope that my future waipu's parents don't mistreat me just because of where I'm from and my color.
EDIT: Sorry about the aussie/american thing. Half K-Pop GAF is aussie so it's hard to keep track of people's countries lol.
EDIT2:
Stop it! I have too many cities already to visit. So far, California, Seattle, Chicago and now NYC!
Of course you're treated well in general, and people are nice in general. But read any blog or article by people who want to live in Korea or Japan, as a family, as a resident, bringing up kids, and you'll see that they work their ass off to just be seen as another resident in the country and yet time and time again come across situations where they're only 'outsiders'. If you get a circle of friends and an environment you're happy with maybe it's not such a big deal. Others will struggle more with it, some move away because of it, etc.
It's obviously a problem when so many people who want it not to be say it is. Improving in some ways but still an issue. Of course it can also be a problem in other countries. If you settle down somewhere you don't want to be seen as an outsider no matter how nice people are in trivial day-to-day situations.
Queer parade in Hongdae yesterday. Wanted to go but it's finals studying weekend
It's obviously a problem when so many people who want it not to be say it is. Improving in some ways but still an issue. Of course it can also be a problem in other countries. If you settle down somewhere you don't want to be seen as an outsider no matter how nice people are in trivial day-to-day situations.
Queer parade in Hongdae yesterday. Wanted to go but it's finals studying weekend
cj_iwakura
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I can vouch for SoFla being a huge cultural melting pot, though I hardly know any Brazilians. Broward is full of Haitians and Jamaicans more than anything.
By the by, try being American and studying Japanese. There's a difficulty spike.
By the by, try being American and studying Japanese. There's a difficulty spike.
Dokish to be honest it looks like you're still in the honeymoon period with the country and I really think you're looking past some fundamental issues.
My posts came off being very critical but at the end of the day I love Korea, most of my closest friends are there including my girlfriend and I will probably end up living there for at least part of my life due to that connection. Every country has problems and every culture has its pros and cons and I think the best way to understanding Korea and any culture is to understand those and accept it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
My posts came off being very critical but at the end of the day I love Korea, most of my closest friends are there including my girlfriend and I will probably end up living there for at least part of my life due to that connection. Every country has problems and every culture has its pros and cons and I think the best way to understanding Korea and any culture is to understand those and accept it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
milkham
Member
why the hell was nyc not even on your list, but then LAST behind chicago wtf
OMG they have Queer parade in there? I never saw a tranny Korean. That would be new.
Well, I know how hard it can be in Japan. In Korea, don't know yet, except some hyper-sensitive people complaining about stuff. I lost track of americans trying to do their own thing in Korea without realizing they are in another country across the globe.
In the subway I saw a white guy holding a Korean baby (with clearly traits of white people) and his Korean wife, and people were acting playful towards the kid. It was so funny lol. I expected soju bottles flying around. But the ajhummas in the seat for old people were calling her attention and playing with her.
I know this is only one example. Bad things happen and good things happen. We are treated poorly even in our fkn' country! So, any close-minded guy ranting at me doesn't bother me.
I acknowledge that's absurd. When I think US, I automatically think NY. But is a question of money and time. And because I like to "feel" the place for several days (let's say 10) instead of hop to one state to another.
What do you have against Chicago? I fell in love after watching E.R.
That's what I said in a earlier post. When I came back to Brazil I acknowledged a lot of Korean's problems, and well, what can I do? The honeymoon phase is not entirely over, I admit it, but is not in the highest point either. And that's what I'm saying: I will embrace whatever comes.
Oh man I remember that group.
And can't forget Harisu. First transgender celebrity in Korea, and one of the first Koreans to legally change gender I believe.
Holy shi-
One of the girls are hot
I've been missing so much good stuff.
What about the other 2 BoA concerts, are you going?
milkham
Member
never forget
I was pretty surprised by her I thought Korea was too conservative for this to fly.
ramy do you know how things went after her first few songs? It was pretty hard to stay on top of things going on in korea back then.
BoA's last concert was yesterday in Busan. Tour over. Couldn't go.
But her new JP dorama theme is out in full: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTY1MDEzMjMy.html
Harisu attended the queer parade yesterday. Also the gay director who's been on a lot of TV shows lately and did that whole non-official marriage ceremony.
But her new JP dorama theme is out in full: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTY1MDEzMjMy.html
Harisu attended the queer parade yesterday. Also the gay director who's been on a lot of TV shows lately and did that whole non-official marriage ceremony.
No. Outside of Stormfront, being American is not tied to being a particular phenotype. Being Korean (or Japanese) is. As Peru and ramyeon said, you will, as a non-Korean, always be an outsider in Korea. Some people can deal with that OK; others it bothers more.
NyoRx: ramyeon made some great points. I lived in Korea for a couple of years and also visited Japan twice while there; I can speak more about the former than I can the latter.
What I liked about Korea:
*The nightlife and drinking culture. Koreans always eat while they drink, and they have specific foods (anju) that go perfectly with different types of alcohol. Speaking of which...
*The food. Korean food is cheap. There's no tipping. And with only a few exceptions, Korean food is amazing.
*Cheap, efficient medical care. (I'm American.)
*Cheap and efficient public transportation; cheap taxis
*Low taxes
*Clothing. You don't need to go to very high-end boutique shops to get fashionable clothes and suits cut for normal-sized or smaller-sized BMIs.
*Beautiful women. They can be a blast to hang out with (Koreans in general, men included, know how to have fun!) but at the same time are generally immature for their age and unworldly.
*Service. Customer service in general is excellent. If you frequent a particular restaurant or bar, the staff will remember you (especially since you're a foreigner) and treat you very kindly.
*Safety (as long as you don't drive)
*Generally irreligious population (I say this with a big asterisk.)
What I disliked about Korea:
*Rednecks. In my experience Seoul is the only remotely cosmopolitan city in Korea. It's the only one whose residents are accustomed enough to foreigners that they don't think of them as Martians.
*Lawlessness. I mean this in a literal sense because Korea is a generally safe place to live. Although no nation is, to a fault, a nation of laws and contracts, Korea (and the East in general) is much less of one than the U.S.
*Superstition. Although generally irreligious (outside of a thankfully small fanatic Christian cohort), Koreans are as a whole extremely superstitious.
*Conservatism. Korea is probably the most conservative society in all of Asia, and that's saying something.
*Xenophobia and racism. Also, the left in Korea is nearly as xenophobic and racist as the right.
*Pollution. Korea's pretty damned dirty. Trash bags are stacked 6 feet high on nearly every street corner. The cities smell bad and have no coherent aesthetic beyond the endless Soviet-style apartment buildings. Greenery just isn't prized the same way as it is in Western countries. The noise pollution can drive you crazy, too, with every shop-front blasting music at unbearable decibel levels.
*Driving. There's not much to say except that Korea is a country in Asia that's not named Japan, which means that traffic rules aren't enforced, stop signs are taken as suggestions, and lanes are completely nebulous. Drivers don't yield to ambulances that have sirens blaring, which to me goes beyond aggressive driving and into 'breakdown of civil society' territory.
*Pushiness. There is no respect for personal space in Korea. This is definitely a bigger problem with older Koreans. (In fact, most of the problems on this 'dislike' list are driven more by older Koreans than younger ones.)
*Age culture. This ties in with the pushiness and general rudeness typical among older Koreans.
*Media sensationalism. The more-or-less fabricated television special on U.S. beef was particularly maddening, as were fabricated reports that the soldiers involved in the Yangju highway incident were laughing maniacally as they purposely ran over the bodies of the victims.
Korea is a fun place to live, but my quality of life is just a lot higher in the U.S. Western media tend to portray Korea as this high-tech wonderland, but it's important to remember that it was a third-world country not long ago, and it often shows in unexpected ways. I also live in an area of the U.S. with a large Korean population, so I get to enjoy a lot of the things I like about Korea without experiencing as much the stuff that I dislike. Win-win.
Not very well. It's not like she really had much going for her outside of the transgender singer gimmick though. She's tried to be in the spotlight again since then with her boyfriend (Now husband) doing a reality show and stuff but it got quite a bit of backlash from the public. She's pretty much faded into obscurity now with the mainstream, although I'm sure she still holds a place for the transgender community (As Peru says she showed up at the parade the other day).
Pretty much spot on and you mentioned a lot of the positive stuff I skipped out on in my post. You're definitely right about most of the negative things being perpetuated by the older generation and I have a little hope that might change as generations change, that said I've found that it's a bit of a cycle. Since young people are pushed around and forced to respect elders they tend to do it to young people when they get older as well.
Safety is definitely a big plus as I could go out at night and get really drunk and not have to worry about getting into altercations with strangers, Australians tend to be very aggressive drunks. Just stay away from roads. Even not driving it's an issue, as scooters and motorbikes in Korea tend to believe they have the right to choose whether they want to be a motor vehicle or a pedestrian whenever it suits them. Meaning they never stop for red lights and often weave through pedestrians at crossings or just ignore you and expect you to jump out of the way.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I've been considering taking this route. Mostly due to personal life challenges that seem more likely to not go well as they do to go well (well enough to go live elsewhere) but also because I feel like that whole region is getting less-safe and will continue to get less-safe if the sequestration of our navy proceeds according to the current plan. [insert complicated geopolitical perspectives here]
Yep, definitely cyclical, but as you say, the general trend, thankfully, is upward. Unfortunately, it's not at the typical Korean 'bballi bballi' pace.
Without looking it up, I wonder does the "우리가 있다" slogan reference the fact that many Koreans--in line with their rather mystical ideas about racial superiority--believe that there exist no gay Koreans?
There's always the chance that shit finally hits the fan, but you would mostly only need to be concerned if you were living in the Seoul metro area. Of course, Seoul is imo the best place to live in Korea, especially if you're a fan of the pop scene in Korea...so yeah.
(I live in northern Virginia but, if I were to stay in Korean-populated areas, would prefer to live in the Jersey suburbs of NY.)
Yeah I'd say it's probably the slogan because of that. But rather than actually believing they don't exist I think they just choose to ignore the existence of them instead and pretend they don't.
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