^^^^ The true goat of MAMAs (Taeyang's moving lights were also great)
You forgot to put Yoo Inna in red.
You forgot to put Yoo Inna in red.
I hope it was a mistake.
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K-Pop Fanboy/Fangirl |OT6| Thank You for Love
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sojin/jimin or sojin/hoseok scandal now pls.
Yes to: GsD+Ailee (except for the Problem part, that sucked), Kai barefoot, Lay's speech in chinese, Jimin ripping his shirt off, born hater, everything Sistar
No: BTS vs Block B. WHY NO SUGA VS KYUNG SO SUGA COULD SEND THAT ANNOYING SHIT HOME? at least Jimin got half naked
Yes to: GsD+Ailee (except for the Problem part, that sucked), Kai barefoot, Lay's speech in chinese, Jimin ripping his shirt off, born hater, everything Sistar
No: BTS vs Block B. WHY NO SUGA VS KYUNG SO SUGA COULD SEND THAT ANNOYING SHIT HOME? at least Jimin got half naked
AgentChris
Member
Valkerionseven
Member
Same reason its called the world series in baseball when its just America. Trying to make it sound bigger and more legit than it actually is.
broz0rs
Member
That John Legend & Tiffany "collaboration"
I cringed so hard at Tiffany's part. John Legend getting arguably the weakest crowd reaction of the night. HK audience must have been like "who is this black man and why is he here?"
I cringed so hard at Tiffany's part. John Legend getting arguably the weakest crowd reaction of the night. HK audience must have been like "who is this black man and why is he here?"
neoism
Member
it's soo weird but I really dont like when Fany speaks in English lol Even though she speaks it better in ways than Korean.. she's waaay better than she was 7 years ago though but still not sure why but really dislike her English speaking for some reason.. :/
One of the reasons I wouldn't even want them to waste time on an English album...
MAMA producer better pray to higher powers that Trouble Maker comes back next year so they have something people will actually talk about to show.
I mean in a year where traditional girl boy group k-pop has struggled to make headlines extending your show to 6-7 hours is not really the answer. More isn't more. More special stages, big budget routines could spice it up, but instead all of them were lame compared to earlier highlights and the whole thing just lengthy for artificial reasons.
I mean in a year where traditional girl boy group k-pop has struggled to make headlines extending your show to 6-7 hours is not really the answer. More isn't more. More special stages, big budget routines could spice it up, but instead all of them were lame compared to earlier highlights and the whole thing just lengthy for artificial reasons.
Run by a Korean company, started as Korean awards (Mnet Korean Music Festival), and then they changed the name about 5 years ago and broadcasted live across Asia as Hallyu got more and more popular (it's been held outside Korea for the past few years iirc). It's as much a front to drive Korean music and culture (and CJ E&M sales), as it is to give out some awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfe647pdpcw
Always good to see Sogyeokdong live, but the highlight here is Come Back Home. Timeless classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcV72cROa3k
Friday is probably one of my favourite tracks from IU, love it. It really doesn't need a rap break though.
But yeah, MAMA is boring. Can't imagine sitting through the whole thing for a couple of good performances.
Always good to see Sogyeokdong live, but the highlight here is Come Back Home. Timeless classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcV72cROa3k
Friday is probably one of my favourite tracks from IU, love it. It really doesn't need a rap break though.
But yeah, MAMA is boring. Can't imagine sitting through the whole thing for a couple of good performances.
josecitoxnyo
Member
Ailee stage was awesome, that stage presence.
That SM shade, leaving 2 "members" inside the locked maze and the other 10 outside.
That SM shade, leaving 2 "members" inside the locked maze and the other 10 outside.
Wait.. Loen put out a new IU song on youtube as a gift? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vzI2qc4lSY
Yeah, it's the one she had posted snippets of the other week.
questionmark
Member
Any updates on the Jisoo case?
broz0rs
Member
Last I read was from November 24th:
Edit: Speaking of which - [MV] Lovelyz(러블리즈
_ Candy Jelly Love (Choreography Ver.)----
Edit 2:
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
JYPE artists putting their own projects on youtube because JYPE doesn't give them anything to do.
It's December.
No 6mix debut.
No Sunmi comeback.
No 15& single.
No Miss A comeback.
No Yubin side track.
WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING JYPE?
It's December.
No 6mix debut.
No Sunmi comeback.
No 15& single.
No Miss A comeback.
No Yubin side track.
WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING JYPE?
EXID holding at number 4 on Melon. They're back on music shows this week and today filmed a segment for 1theK
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AOA 사뿐사뿐 어쿠스틱 (Like a Cat Acoustic)
[MV] 스타쉽플래닛(Starship Planet) _ Love Is You
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SBS Announces First Line-Up of Artists to Perform at SBS Awards Festival
SBS Gayo early this year - Dec 21
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Late edit: Psy's performing "Red" at his end of year concerts.
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AOA 사뿐사뿐 어쿠스틱 (Like a Cat Acoustic)
[MV] 스타쉽플래닛(Starship Planet) _ Love Is You
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SBS Announces First Line-Up of Artists to Perform at SBS Awards Festival
SBS Gayo early this year - Dec 21
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Late edit: Psy's performing "Red" at his end of year concerts.
broadwayrock
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Cube are having a concert in the Netherlands on April 4, 2015.
http://concert.amentertainment.nl/
BEAST
4Minute
A Pink
G.NA
BTOB
10,000 capacity venue. The London concert a few years ago was 5000 capacity and didn't sell out (but they didn't have A Pink and BTOB then either)
http://concert.amentertainment.nl/
BEAST
4Minute
A Pink
G.NA
BTOB
10,000 capacity venue. The London concert a few years ago was 5000 capacity and didn't sell out (but they didn't have A Pink and BTOB then either)
broz0rs
Member
JYPE had so many flops this year that I think they're being hesitant to release material until JYP can get his groove back lol
With that said, is GOT7 a flop? I only see them on mnet but not on other charts such as Melon or Naver. That would be a shame because their album is a fun listen.
AgentChris
Member
GOT7 needs a bigger push from JYP. JYP sucks at promoting artists- how did they not perform at MAMA?
Because they didn't win anything lol.
broz0rs
Member
Also no JYPE act performed.
Valkerionseven
Member
Meh literally every song on their album has the word "girl" in the opening or in the chorus... don't know how they let this get approval.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Wendel Clark
Member
lollllllllllllllllllllll
questionmark
Member
more honey butter chips.
I wonder of the korean stores around me have em' I wanna check em out. Probably would never beat Calbee Shrimp Chips tho.
I hope she eats all that.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
[MV] Verbal Jint(버벌진트, San E, PHANTOM, 애즈원, 피타입, 태완, 강민희, 칸토, 샴페인&캔들, 양다일, DJ IT _ Brand New Day
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Min Hyo Rin starring in upcoming musical drama "Perseverance, Goo Hae Ra".
"Did you say my... oh"
Some K-Pop idols will appear in it.
, San E, PHANTOM, 애즈원, 피타입, 태완, 강민희, 칸토, 샴페인&캔들, 양다일, DJ IT _ Brand New Day----
Min Hyo Rin starring in upcoming musical drama "Perseverance, Goo Hae Ra".
"Did you say my... oh"
Some K-Pop idols will appear in it.
Cube are having a concert in the Netherlands on April 4, 2015.
http://concert.amentertainment.nl/
BEAST
4Minute
A Pink
G.NA
BTOB
10,000 capacity venue. The London concert a few years ago was 5000 capacity and didn't sell out (but they didn't have A Pink and BTOB then either)
That's.... 1 hour away from..
But those prices.. I only really like 4Minute and A Pink..
TOkyo dome concert in 3 days.
Cant wait for the blu-ray.
I think a Japanese TV channel (wow wow?) will broadcast the concert (or a big chunk of it) at the end of the year, or maybe in January, I read this somewhere.
I paid more for SMTown, but I'm not 1h from there , 2h30 using airplane. Although I could get cheaper airplane tickets than those prices. I will pass.
Edit: Soshi instagram trolling avalanche, lol
I do wanna support it in the hope SM comes here too, and more Kpop in general. Since they never do and this is the first time I think.
There will be glowsticks, kimchi and merch lmao.
Some text.
TS Entertainment responded to the B.A.P. lawsuit:
Then B.A.P. responded to the above statement:
TS Entertainment responded to the B.A.P. lawsuit:
Since our founding in 2008, for the past seven years, we have created acts such as Untouchable, SECRET and B.A.P as well as a new rookie artist launching soon. As K-Pop becomes a part of the global culture, our goal has been to strengthen our artists' performances and grow with them as we introduce them into the world.
B.A.P was our first male idol group, and the amount of effort and investment we put into the group was no less than what any other company would have done. Thankfully, due to the efforts of the six B.A.P members who came together as one with their talent and hard work, they were able to show off their skills as K-Pop artists with two world tours under their belts.
In the middle of working together, we received the message this past October through their manager that they wanted to rest. Respecting their wishes, we cancelled their upcoming tours in South America and Japan and gave them a long-term vacation. Visiting home and traveling abroad, the members kept in contact with the company. Recently, they told us their opinion that they wanted to go back to promotions beginning in January of next year. In the middle of planning next year's promotions, we heard through a media outlet on November 27 that they were planning a lawsuit.
Since we were maintaining normal contact up until November 26, the article on the next day came as a huge shock. We tried to contact the members through the managers, but they did not respond. We then tried contacting their parents, and the few who we could reach told us to contact their lawyers. We realized that a situation analysis would only be possible after we received the case, and we waited for it to arrive.
In the middle of this, we became suspicious of the media outlets who only focused on one point of view despite the case being in its infancy. As we entered 2014, we were past the break-even point on our finances and B.A.P were on the verge of turning a profit, so this situation became more serious. Finally, we heard reliable rumors that there was a third party controlling public opinion by putting the relationship between the company and B.A.P in a bad light.
To this, we will determine who the third party is and do everything to bring it to justice for breaking the rules of honest business and tarnishing K-Pop's image.
To be truthful, the company has still not officially received the lawsuit. After checking, the law firm who prepared the lawsuit mistakenly had a clerical error regarding proof of document, and the courts had ordered them to correct the mistake. Although we have not yet received the case, we made a request to the courts to view the contents of the case so we could prepare this statement. We will now make a statement on some of the biggest issues in the media.
10 billion won in revenue over 3 years. 17,800,000 won per person
TS -> Break-even point reached in 2 years. Second half of 2014, 285 million won expected. If kept to originally planned promotions, second half of 2014 600 million won expected.
(Pendulum note: Blue = expenses, Red = income)
Our investment in B.A.P began when they were trainees, and large investments began in the second half of 2011 with Bang Yong Guk's solo single, 'I Remember', and BANG&ZELO's 'Never Give Up'. As you can see in the above chart, until 2013, expenses were greater than income. This is because we put our focus on 'conquering the world through music' and realizing our shared goal. Thanks to these risky investments, B.A.P were able to take their place as a new-age K-Pop artist, and became profitable two years after their debut - an accomplishment to be proud of.
As the chart points out, from the point we passed break-even, the gap between our expenses and income becomes greater, and B.A.P began to create more and more profit. Looking at the second half of 2014, if they carried on their planned schedules with tours in South America, Japan and China, we were expecting income of 600 million won. Unfortunately, due to the cancellation of these schedules, we are expecting income of around 285 million won.
Also, depending on the level of promotions, we were tracking B.A.P's income in 2015 to be around 1.8 billion won.
Profit split 1 (B.A.P): 9 (TS) ?
TS -> expected split 4 (B.A.P): 6 (TS)
Ahead of explaining the term "profit split", we will explain the process by which we do our accounting. Following the contract, we calculate our finances every six months. This is how it works: out of all the sales that come from B.A.P, we take out the investments we have made to the group. With the remainder of the income, we divide them based on the category of product and again based on the ratio split with the artist. We do this because there are expenses that are hard to categorize, including dorms, transport, food, school, training, free time, exercise, massages, hospital costs, T-money, etc.
The reason why the ratio is so low with albums (1:9) as opposed to performances/commercials (5:5) is because the latter has a lesser upfront cost and the expenses are split between us and a third party; while with the former, all of the expenses come out of specialized staff members working for the company itself (content directors, designers, producers, marketing, etc).
The profit split to B.A.P in the first half of 2014 came out lower since the majority of the profits came from albums and singles. After this, as the group successfully completes their world tours and stakes out their position as a K-Pop artist, the profit ratio is changing. This is the intended result from both the members and the company, and has achieved the intended affect of making the profit splits reflect the importance of the artists to the company's success. In the future, as commercials and events make up a greater portion of profits, the ratio of 4:6 was to be expected.
slave contracts?
TS -> same content as the Fair Trade Commission's "standard contract" + embodiment
The contents of the "slave contracts" brought up by a media outlet are following the rules set by the Fair Trade Commission, and includes material that embodies their rules.
Regarding the length of the contract, if we look at the FTC's guidelines, the length is states as seven years with an extension available upon agreement on both sides with regards to issues such as "extended foreign promotions with a foreign management company" or "any other legitimate reason which may require a long-term contract".
The company has set the beginning of the contract to the release date of the group's first album (solo, digital album, full album) and seven years henceforth. The members each signed their contracts on 2011 March, June and September, and Bang Yong Guk and Zelo started early with solo promotions so the end dates on their contracts are all different.
issue of trust
TS -> an issue of misunderstanding
Last July, even after the first-half accounting, the B.A.P members continued their schedules without any problems. However, starting in mid-September, the members began exhibiting emotional outbursts, creating problems with variety schedules and other promised events. Despite this, we have apologized numerous times to broadcast stations and others, and tried to protect the members.
Also, the company had tried to solve the problems through the managers and other staff members via discussion and negotiation, and we respected their wishes of the need to rest. On October 23, we agreed to minimize their activities and cancelled two of their world tours so they would get plenty of time to rest until the end of the year.
Since the B.A.P members showed no outward signs of dissatisfaction and continued to live in their dorm, visit the hospital and share meals together, we believed that they were preparing for their comeback and waited until they were ready. As we stated before, we were planning on a comeback in January when we heard this surprising news.
This is the end of our discussion regarding the above points, and we will bare everything we can to the courts so we can reveal the truth. This much is clear: TS Entertainment did not violate the law and have not treated B.A.P in any way that is immoral or unfair.
Our code is "Honesty. Sincerity. Humility". It is possible that in our quest to create a warm and comfortable home for the members and give them the treatment they deserve, our wishes got misunderstood. If we did not recognize the members' hurt feelings before, this is also our fault for misunderstanding due to our lack of experience.
Finally, we hope that B.A.P will, even now, be truthful to what they want and come back together to join forces and achieve that dream that we discussed during their debut. However, if they continue to break off communication and seek out the court, we will respect their wishes and face them in a court of law, searching for a proper solution.
We deeply apologize for causing worry to so many people and will work hard to make sure this entire incident can end in a positive light.
Then B.A.P. responded to the above statement:
jongkookie
Member
Wow consider me totally jelly. A friend was offering me his Push for $250 the other day, but I couldn't take it since I bought an exhaust system for my car.
Fany's a valley girl... it's especially worse for her since she never grew out of that accent coz she moved to SK as a teen.
And yes, the valley girl accent is annoying as fnck. Had a friend from the valley who still used the accent while living here in Texas... she's not a bad person but goddamn that was annoying as fnck to deal with.
Top of the page?! Here's some Hayoung:
