Kanye West Isn’t “Traditionally American” Enough to Perform at Trump Inauguration

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Measley said:
I'm willing to bet that Kanye has deeper American roots than either Toby Keith, 3 doors down, or Jon Voight.
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None of that matters to these sons of late 19th century immigrants who tell Black folk to "go back to Africa" and Hispanics to stay on the Mexican side of the border.
 
Dali said:
Try again. I said the excuse they gave is bullshit if they really did invite another rapper. It's the lie they used that's pandering. They could have given myriad reasons why they didn't want Kanye like scheduling conflict or some nonsense but they went with not "traditional American."
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Well they didn't say that. They said:

"He's been great, but it's not the venue...

The venue we have for entertainment is filled out, it's perfect, it's going to be typically and traditionally American, and Kanye is a great guy but we just haven't asked him to perform."
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/16/politics/donald-trump-kanye-west-tom-barrack-inauguration/

It's a stretch to say they said that, let alone make an argument that it's meant in a racist way.
 
And I’ll never let my son have an ego
He’ll be nice to everyone wherever we go
I mean I might even make him be Republican
So everybody know he love white people
 
Considering 2Chains was also invited but turned it down, I'm starting to wonder what the issue is here people have saying 'that's not what he meant.' Sure they're not in the exact same lanes as far as music goes, but it's not so drastic a difference that 2Chains and Ye couldn't be at the same place at the same time and people would think it odd.
 
I really dislike Trump but I can't say I would want Kanye performing if it was me too, with his tendency to go off saying crazy things instead of just performing.
Other than that I don't see how his picks are all traditional American values other than they're white.
 
Remember when Kanye said George Bush didn't care about black people

now he's friends with trump

"It's going to be typically and traditionally American"
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Hip Hop is american as hell, and Kanye is American as hell

And we move on with our agenda," Barrack added.

aint that the fuckin truth

edit:

now he considers himself a friend of trump, not that they are friends. very important distinction made in the OP
 
Dali said:
Try again. I said the excuse they gave is bullshit if they really did invite another rapper. It's the lie they used that's pandering. They could have given myriad reasons why they didn't want Kanye like scheduling conflict or some nonsense but they went with not "traditional American."
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They said his music is not a good fit for a traditional American event. They didn't say he was not a traditional American.

In the tradition of inaugurating presidents have we ever had Nas, Wu-Tang, NWA or Young Jeezy perform?

No, because frankly the music doesn't fit.
Jeezy and Nas had the "My President is Black" remix when Obama first got elected, where they invited to perform it on stage? Not that I remember



Edit: btw, great song if you never heard it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O9sABRosdNg
 
Kanye hold this

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Dali said:
[Rap/hip hop] is not "typically or traditionally American." That is what was being said. And it's not a stretch to see that as a dog whistle and pandering to his white base.
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#StopSanctuaryCities trending on twitter right now, thousands of bikers riding into DC to "protect the President from anarchists", thats what "traditionally American" means.
 
theignoramus said:
#StopSanctuaryCities trending on twitter right now, thousands of bikers riding into DC to "protect the President from anarchists", thats what "traditionally American" means.
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That's actually a paid trend promoted by FAIR.
It likely would have never trended otherwise.
 
I think what they're saying is that Ye isn't the kind of music that you associate with patriotism and pro-America fanfare that the type event has to have, and I agree.

Of course what they're really saying is "we can't have a black guy playing".
 
smokeymicpot said:
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https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/822147371404398592

They fixed it.
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The quote in question isn't out of place regardless, you're talking about Buzzfeed either way. Ye isn't invited to a typical and traditionally American event because he apparently doesn't fit it. There was never a question of him saying it directly in the first place, 2Chainz was apparently OK. So was FloRida though they both turned it down, but not Ye??
 
Man, i mean, they're really not being subtle here. Kanye West is pretty definitively American and certainly traditional for the last few decades.

I think of America and Kanye is one of the first things that comes to mind.
 
So buzzfeed had it wrong apparently. Even the CNN guy is calling them out.

"He considers himself a friend of the president-elect, but it's not the venue," Barrack said. "The venue we have for entertainment is filled out, it's perfect. It's going to be typically and traditionally American."
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Is different, misleading perhaps. I think the intention is still there though.
 
You would think even the idiots at the Trump team would have jumped at the chance to have Kanye do something for him. The biggest star by far who likely would have been willing to do something. And a good "see he's not racist Kanye likes him and played at his inaguration!" damage control moment.

But nope. They don't care. They don't even feel the obligation to try to pretend. Quite astounding.
 
rjinaz said:
So buzzfeed had it wrong apparently. Even the CNN guy is calling them out.



Is different.
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Is it really.

I need a detailed explanation as to how Three Doors Down is typically and traditionally American where as Kanye West is not. Or "fits in with a typically American show", I guess.
 
- J - D - said:
Kanye is the embodiment of the American Dream, though.

But probably not the GOP's version of the dream.
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Got in a serious car wreck with no medical insurance and had to pay hospital bills with straight cash and wasn't ruined financially because of it. I think that's the pie in the sky dream they have for everyone else.
 
VendettaRed07 said:
Is it really.

I need a detailed explanation as to how Three Doors Down is typically and traditionally American where as Kanye West is not. Or "fits in with a typically American show", I guess.
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I edited the post to say how it is different than directly saying Kanye isn't those things. But not much. The implication is still there, even though it is not directed at Kanye but the venue.

You are correct, that the meaning is, "Kanye won't be there.This will be traditionally American."
For all intent and purpose it does indicate having Kanye there would negate that.
 
This also happens to be what Trump's base believes. They think American means white and Christian and rap and black people are un-Christian and therefore un-American. They see country singers as American and Kanye and rap as a disgrace.

Yes, lots of people are that stupid.

I hope Kanye learns from this.
 
When I found out Kanye was a Trump fan I thought this exactly would happen but it still manages to shock me on some level how deep the racism is.

It's Kanye West you're rejecting after being forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel. This is gross incompetence.
 
Don't care tbh. They can call him whatever they like....kind of tired of capping for people especially black entertainers who constantly shit on their number #1 income base for some bullshit all lives matter shit. If Kanye is not "traditionally American" for a fucking inauguration because they truly just don't fucking want him to be there because he's unapologetically black and can't be controlled, then too fucking bad. We already tried telling him this shit and he didn't want to listen giving us a big fuck you so oh well..
 
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