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Kanye West & Jay-Z present: Watch The Throne

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Tokubetsu

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enzo_gt said:
Fail formatting solidifies your drunk.

And you think H.A.M. isn't that bad because all your hearing is processing right now is "I THINK IM BIG MEECH, LARRY HOOVER."

Yeah I think it is. Speeding can Vouch for me.
 
YoungHav said:
Son you mad because Kanye is down by 1 point? I'm going to have a good time laughing at you when this whole album drops and your boy disappoints yet again. I saw that thread and there's nothing critical about "z0mg!! All of the lights is the greatest thing ever"... that song sucks. "My nigga dayyyyd *horns* and I'm so duuuumb *horns* the day is heeeere *horns* the night is yoooooung * horns*." what a dumb song and flow over it but its classic! LOL @ the song before Malcolm X speaks. That shit is trash, some 1990 house music reject.

Edit: It's Lost In The World

I want to ask you to be the first person I put on my NeoGAF friend's list.

I like the song. Neither Jay's or Kanye's verse stood out though, the beat here takes center stage.
 
Expendable. said:
He's also my least favorite part of Monster and So Appalled, kind of sad :/

Holyfuck I missed this comment. Jay's verse on So Appalled is very much a contender for best verse of 2010.
 

~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
I find nothing redeeming about this song

from the shitty production, shit flow from both emcees, random lyrics, unimaginative similes/metaphors....

I cant make excuses for Jay anymore.
 

enzo_gt

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Pinko Marx said:
Whats up with the Jay-Z hate? Dude makes one ok verse and people act like its the worst shit ever.
Its all retaliation to YoungHav saying hes 10x the lyricist than Kanye.

Which no one really argued or anything in the first place, he just kinda stuck it out there.
 

enzo_gt

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Pinko Marx said:
...But its true.
10x? No. Better? Most definitely. But like I said, no one really argued Jay is a better lyricist. He just put it out there in his tirade against Kanye fans. Which isn't really contributing anything to the thread if your calling everyone in this thread a dickrider.

And I don't know man, So Appalled as a song in it's entirely is in the running for my favourite song of 2010 period. Personally, Kanye + Pusha > Jay + CyHi. Something about the flow of Yeezys verse that's magical. TA DA!
 

Sweedishrodeo

the smegma spreader
jay at his best is maybe 2x as good as kanye at his best. maaaybe. nowadays it's a dead heat, they just aren't as hungry as they used to be
 
Sweedishrodeo said:
jay at his best is maybe 2x as good as kanye at his best. maaaybe. nowadays it's a dead heat, they just aren't as hungry as they used to be

Nope. Jay at his best is a Super Saiyin 4 at least, Kanye has only ever reached maybe SS2.
Go listen to Jay's verse in these 2 songs
1 and 2 and tell me Kanye has EVER done anything even close.
 
Pinko Marx said:
Whats up with the Jay-Z hate? Dude makes one ok verse and people act like its the worst shit ever.


It's "cool" to hate on a man who's accomplished everything. Kanye appeals to the more sensitive men, while jay is more calculated and impersonal.

I think they're both great and listen to 95% of the shit they make, but I do think the jay bashing / nas overhyping is some hipster type shit. Mofos act like nas didn't make nastradamus around here.


mini off topic rant rant: seems like around here the wacker the beats and the more obscure the artist, the more he's liked. I can't subscribe to such fuckery.
 

Sweedishrodeo

the smegma spreader
Pinko Marx said:
Nope. Jay at his best is a Super Saiyin 4 at least, Kanye has only ever reached maybe SS2.
Go listen to Jay's verse in these 2 songs
1 and 2 and tell me Kanye has EVER done anything even close.


:lol :lol i was about to do a dragonball analogy with nas and big included but second guessed myself

but yo through the wire or last call? never let me down? i can see what you are saying, but it is hard to compare some lyricists.. kanye's flow is unique, as is jay's. they do what works for them. if you prefer jay that much more that's all there is to that.
 
Sweedishrodeo said:
:lol :lol i was about to do a dragonball analogy with nas and big included but second guessed myself

but yo through the wire or last call? never let me down? i can see what you are saying, but it is hard to compare some lyricists.. kanye's flow is unique, as is jay's. they do what works for them. if you prefer jay that much more that's all there is to that.

Yeah I was gunna say College Dropout or a few moments in Late Registration could make a good case, but Jay-Z still has an entire career that outshines Kanye is almost every aspect. I just can't let myself to even begin to compare them. The only thing Kanye MIGHT have over Jay-Z is his songmaking ability. Jay has only ever rapped about himself, while Kanye has gotten pretty damn creative.
 

Sweedishrodeo

the smegma spreader
going further, kanye produces a significant amount (if not the majority) of the music on his albums himself, which takes his lyrics in a whole different creative direction altogether.
 

enzo_gt

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Pinko Marx said:
But he could never go toe-to-toe with Jay-Z.
He did the last 5 or so songs they did together. Power, Hate, Monster, etc. Only So Appalled can people argue Jay killed Ye on. Jay in his prime > Ye in his prime. But the way the patterns going, Jay is getting lazier the more he realizes he doesn't have to work for his cash.

As far as song making ability, Kanye surpassed Jay-Z the second Kingdome Come dropped, and he's only improved since. This is part of the reason why I'm more of a Ye fan than a Jay one.
 
enzo_gt said:
He did the last 5 or so songs they did together. Power, Hate, Monster, etc. Only So Appalled can people argue Jay killed Ye on. Jay in his prime > Ye in his prime. But the way the patterns going, Jay is getting lazier the more he realizes he doesn't have to work for his cash.

As far as song making ability, Kanye surpassed Jay-Z the second Kingdome Come dropped, and he's only improved since. This is part of the reason why I'm more of a Ye fan than a Jay one.


Hate?
I'm blasting off like a laser
PEW PEW PEW
Stand back gimmie room room room


Naaaaaaaaaaah.
 

YoungHav

Banned
where were you Jay-Z supporters when the Kanye fans knocked down my chocolate milk?

btw, even when Nas dropped a turd called Nastradamus, he was killing mixtapes that yr and following years. So Jay-Z's whole "Nas sucks and is dead" angle back in 2001 was dishonest. Homey was grinding, just dropped a commercial dud.
 

exarkun

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YoungHav said:
where were you Jay-Z supporters when the Kanye fans knocked down my chocolate milk?

btw, even when Nas dropped a turd called Nastradamus, he was killing mixtapes that yr and following years. So Jay-Z's whole "Nas sucks and is dead" angle back in 2001 was dishonest. Homey was grinding, just dropped a commercial dud.

Hav you're a bit crazy, but this is true. When's Nas' next supposed to come out?
 
Angelus Errare said:
Never say never, cause Jay Z ain't a Monster and Kanye has the ability to Run This Town.

GO1a5.jpg
 

Vox-Pop

Contains Sucralose
The Riccardo Tisci cover is horrible. More proof why Givenchy sucks. Not looking forward to this album one bit. Not only don't I like Jay-Z, after Kanye's latest album, I'm not looking forward to any of his work. It's going to have to be amazing in order to forget MBDTF.
 

Epcott

Member
(Streamlined Edit: I didn't like the song)

The beat itself sounds like a parody of a Southern rap song on a tv show like MAD TV or Boondocks (when they can't use copy-written music and resort to making a generic sounding beat to put a farce on). Not to mention, the hook is off key and force fed.

Anyways... looking forward to the next leak :D
 
Epcott said:
WTF did I just listen to? Did, not like it, at all.



I had to leave a comment on H.A.M.'s facebook page mentioning how it sounds more "pigs feet" (aka bullshit) than HAM, and that Ye sounds as awkward as "Martin Lawrence standing barefoot on a bottle", and I never leave comments on celebrity pages or band pages, or do anything besides play bejeweled blitz there.

Hearing Jay lazily whine the hook as if his voice were close to cracking... it was soooo weird and uncomfortable. Like that part sounds like a guy is singing a song he doesn't want to and is forced to do it regardless for a check :lol it's unsettling to hear that in his voice in the hook.

Did Kanye produce that (besides the lex beat) because he must have just been zooted that session or something. At the very least he should have fixed that part with the subtle correct use of auto-tune.

Oh wait, but he can't :lol not after DOA.

Wow, I hated it more than Hate (BP3), Young Forever (BP3), Beach Chair (KC), and his line in Monster, and I actually feel pretty embarrassed for them for releasing that shit. The real mind blower is that I only saw one bad comment in on the fb page, everyone else was dick riding that crappy track.



I have to admit, it was good to hear Jay fast flow yet again (right after "That's My Bitch"), he tried to save that track...

which is commendable, but that beat itself sounds like a parody of a Southern rap song on a tv show like MAD TV or Boondocks (when they can't use copywritten music and resort to making a generic sounding beat to put a farce on). Not to mention, the hook is off key and force fed.

Anyways... looking forward to the next leak :D

I agree on everything you said but Beach Chair sucks?

MEET ME SOMEWHERE!!!
 

Tom Penny

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Jay's best shit is light years ahead of Kanye. His rhyme patterns, flow , basically everything although his overall quality now is pretty much average.
 

Complex Shadow

Cudi Lame™
Tom Penny said:
Jay's best shit is light years ahead of Kanye. His rhyme patterns, flow , basically everything although his overall quality now is pretty much average.
example bro.
gimme the best of kanye in your opinion and the best of jay.
you can't say shit with no backup.
 

YoungHav

Banned
exarkun said:
Hav you're a bit crazy, but this is true. When's Nas' next supposed to come out?
Nas next one is slated to drop this year and I heard he is including Lost Tapes 2 as a bonus disk.
 
YoungHav said:
where were you Jay-Z supporters when the Kanye fans knocked down my chocolate milk?

btw, even when Nas dropped a turd called Nastradamus, he was killing mixtapes that yr and following years. So Jay-Z's whole "Nas sucks and is dead" angle back in 2001 was dishonest. Homey was grinding, just dropped a commercial dud.

And Jay had spent almost as much time name-dropping nas and illmatic as he was with biggie, so his assertions were contrary to a lot of what he had previously said
 

YoungHav

Banned
Nas can murk Jay-Z in his sleep. I just wish Nas was more hungry. He is content with dropping an album and not making any appearances all yr till the next one. Fabolous said Nas should be more active and drop a mixtape or something to show these young punks why he's a legend. I agree. N-word and N-word mixtape were a great combo. Cops keep firing in my environment!
 

Zel3

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Equus Bellator Apex said:
smh dude.

There's too much bullshit in your post to ignore.

Rhymefest is that you?
Should have written a verse for Ye man, he embarrassed himself on a track with Hov.
 

YoungHav

Banned
:lol @ H.A.M. finally heard it. The opera singing and shit sucks ass. Everything after Hov's verse is garbage and unnecessary. Didn't find the beat bad except when that wannabe God of War part kicks in near the end of their verses. Jay-Z did better than Ye on this and I like how he flowed over the beat.

Kanye needs to stop with the misogyny. We get it, you have sex... we all do. I can't play that nigga around my mama because he can't spend 5 mins without talking about some dumb porn shit. I thought Jesus Walks you hypocrit.
 

enzo_gt

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YoungHav said:
:lol @ H.A.M. finally heard it. The opera singing and shit sucks ass. Everything after Hov's verse is garbage and unnecessary. Didn't find the beat bad except when that wannabe God of War part kicks in near the end of their verses. Jay-Z did better than Ye on this and I like how he flowed over the beat.

Kanye needs to stop with the misogyny. We get it, you have sex... we all do. I can't play that nigga around my mama because he can't spend 5 mins without talking about some dumb porn shit. I thought Jesus Walks you hypocrit.
Holy fuck, Jay fan hypocrisy to the TENTH. :lol :lol :lol

Let's just say Hov's verse was also garbage, and everything after it was tons better than even Jay's shit verse.
 

Baby Milo

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shadowcomplex said:
example bro.
gimme the best of kanye in your opinion and the best of jay.
you can't say shit with no backup.
:lol examples of a great jay verse?

did eminem bring you into hip hop?

YoungHav said:
Kanye needs to stop with the misogyny. We get it, you have sex... we all do. I can't play that nigga around my mama because he can't spend 5 mins without talking about some dumb porn shit. I thought Jesus Walks you hypocrit.
wtf-cat.jpg


hip hop fans crying about misogny and listening with there moms.....man whats going on in here?
 
YoungHav said:
I can't play that nigga around my mama because he can't spend 5 mins without talking about some dumb porn shit. I thought Jesus Walks you hypocrit.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol WHAT the FUCK.
 
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