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Kanye West & Jay-Z present: Watch The Throne
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What's the problem? When my mom's around, we listen to Girls, Girls, Girls, Change Clothes and Money, Cash, Hoes together.Baby Milo said:
As a family.
I got beef with the beat because it sucks during the verses, even for Lex Luger standards. The chorus/end are the only redeeming qualities.kamspy said:
Tokubetsu said:
More like 96-03.
And Jay still brings it when he feels like it or challenges his lazy ass. Kanye has some good verses here and there but seriously he is not a lyricist. Kanye as a total package is better right now because of the production and his song making ability but he isn't a better lyricist.
This argument blows my mind. Jay-Z having sprinkles of good verses inbetween largely average ones count as moments where he is trying, whereas otherwise he's not trying? Or is that just an excuse for his average quality of verse going down? Even though I like his verse on Monster, a whole lot of people hate on it cause they think it's shit. Does that mean Jay phoned in? Cause it certainly sounds like Jay cranked it up to 11 when spitting over that beat. You can hear it in his voice.effzee said:
And I'm still trying to find this bit where anyone mentioned Kanye was a better lyricist. He's most definitely not, but like I said before, Jay's average verses are getting lazier, and Ye's, especially evident in 2010, are getting more and more hungry. I don't know how you can say Ye isn't hungry right now.
And that's good, because I don't know who else can scare the shit out of Jay enough to make him reassess the quality of his lyrics today. Nas is out doing his own thing, Jay's got no beef with anyone. Only Ye can spit alongside Jay, and if it's for an entire album, best believe Jay's going to try his hardest not to get ethered for an entire album. Whether or not anybody writing forum posts on the internet thinks Ye's lyrical ability can get near Jay's or not, Jay is aware that if he slacks, his rep is at stake.
They are a great duo. That's why I'm hyped for this album. They bring out the best in each other, and only good can come out of this. Well, good and H.A.M.
Angelus Errare
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Depends on the day of the week.
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
YoungHav said:
well his momma is dead so he has no compass for that shit
Equus Bellator Apex
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Zel3 said:
You're an idiot and there's nothing I can say to you to change that.
Pinko Marx
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Tokubetsu said:
Not even. If anything 2010 proved to me that Jay-Z still has what it takes to be deserving of the title GOAT. He just had some sick features.
I beg to differ. Kanye and Jay-Z don't bring the best out of each other they are better on their own. I feel like they are "yes men'ing" each other. Jay-Z doesn't sound open to criticism (Dipset erased his Oh Boy verse because it was wack) and Kanye would cry if his big brother asked him to do a verse over. This album would have been better in '03-'05. Diamonds remix shits on HAM and Haters (wow did I hate that song). I agree though, Jay has no beef and needs someone to bring back that hunger. I hope Jay Electronica sits him down and has a father-son talk.
Why are people mad about Rhymefest when its in the actual booklet sleeve that Rhymefest writes for Kanye sometimes?
Why are people mad about Rhymefest when its in the actual booklet sleeve that Rhymefest writes for Kanye sometimes?
:lol you have Kanye West trying not to crap his pants as an avatar. How am I a joke character?Sebulon3k said:
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
you tried to troll me when i posted about my dead ex, so i of all people figured you for a joke account, or a dumbass
but i can assure everyone young hav is very real
at least he is passionate about hip hop
also i actually agree with young hav on this one. they DO NOT bring out the best in each other. i bet this whole album is a bunch of one takes they did after going to the club
but i can assure everyone young hav is very real
at least he is passionate about hip hop
also i actually agree with young hav on this one. they DO NOT bring out the best in each other. i bet this whole album is a bunch of one takes they did after going to the club
You wouldn'tve gotten that Diamonds verse from Jay if Jay was given that beat to work with as a solo track. Jay isn't stupid, he's aware of his own average lyric in comparison to other greats today. *insert lyrically Talib Kweli quote here* And as much as I'd like to believe their not yes-men-ing eachother, it's probably more like them loving eachothers verses and having a mutual respect for skill than being critical or even taking second glances at them, if that makes sense. From the sound of the recording process, Jay made it sound like they knocked out lots of songs quick, in the few days they recorded stuff. But hell if anyone can make Jay hungry again, its Ye. Everyone else, from Roc Nation to the media to every other artist out there, will not dare criticize Jay or a Jay verse. The slight chance of it happening? It will be Ye who lets Jay know, fam, that verse was wack.YoungHav said:
And I don't think Jay Electronica will get a chance to sit down with Jay to talk since, well you know, Jay Electronica only visits a studio when all 8 planets in the solar system align.
Pinko Marx
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Hav that friend request is still out there bro.
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
wtf how long have i been here and i never knew we could friend people
it is cool. i too have made indiscretions on this board under many an influence
YoungHav said:
it is cool. i too have made indiscretions on this board under many an influence
runlikehell
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What the? Tumblr has everything. :lolChldRebelSoldr said:
enzo_gt said:
I say that because when Jay hits it out of the park he really hits it out of the park. But when he is trying his new slow lazy flow where he sprinkles in singing or seems like he is taking a 2 second pause after every bar it just seems lazy compared to how he used to spit.
His verse on Free Masons blows anything he has done otherwise lately away and you can tell a clear difference in style/flow. When he sticks with what he is or what made him he always shines.
That was pretty good. Sounds so much better over that part of the beat instead of the usual verse part.
Jay and Kanye should take notes.
Also, I listened to H.A.M. on repeat while shovelling snow. Conclusion? It feels so.. unsubstantial. I hope Ye and Jay don't keep the 1 verse a piece pattern for every song on the album, or that'll be disappointing =/
Jay and Kanye should take notes.
Also, I listened to H.A.M. on repeat while shovelling snow. Conclusion? It feels so.. unsubstantial. I hope Ye and Jay don't keep the 1 verse a piece pattern for every song on the album, or that'll be disappointing =/
roosters93
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:lol niceChldRebelSoldr said:
spindashing
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ChldRebelSoldr said:
WHOAH. WHOAH. WHAT THE HELL. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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ShinobiFist
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Not going to go on my usual rant about, Conway West...Is to easy, same could be said about, Camel Jay. My problem with them is, they're turning into George Lucas...Hold up, they already are in the George Lucas mindset. They have to many "yes man" around them, and that's not good for ANY artist. They need someone in power to SON their egotistical asses down. Jay-z and Kanye used to do some amazing music together back then, now it seems like they lost focus on what fans really want, similar to RZA. I have enough music from both this artist back then, it doesn't matter what crap they put out now. They did their thing back then, and that's all that matters. I got to many new artist to look forward to than worry about this washed up players.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Took me the longest time to realize the first picture was an actual photoshop.
spindashing
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Sebulon3k said:
It looked so real that I almost thought that it was official, but I asked myself, "Why would Kanye pose for such a picture? That's ridiculous." But then I thought, "I mean, this is KANYE of all people..." :lol
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Yea, it's totally something Kanye could do out of the blue.spindashing said:
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Yesss, my P.A.M. submission was posted.
CrushDance
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