SidViscous
Member
Virtual cars should be outside of peoples price range to reflect the real life rarity of them? The idiot needs to be reminded he's making a videogame and not NFTs
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Kaz: To all our users (about the GT7 servers being down)
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tmlDan
Member
why are you even in these threads, you don't even play the game. It's not your job to see a twitter post and copy paste it in here.
sankt-Antonio
Banned
Nah. These companies see GT as an Advertisement, wouldn't surprise me if these companies pay Sony to get the spotlight, like Brembo in this game. GT is that big.
BMW for example gifted their new GT4 in AC or iRacing if I remember correctly. And made advertisements coupled with the new BMW Fanatec wheel.
They don't care about how much the car costs in game it needs to be front and center and driven by as much people as possible.
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Aenima
Member
You dont need the game on pc for that cuz thers a livery editor and thers tons of anime big tiddies on cars already. You can even create them on pc and export them to the game using the GT website.
kingfey
Banned
They could be sued for deception.
The mtx option didn't exist during the review period. The game was made online mode, which restricts the users gameplay on certain times (maintenance).
They have a case. But that will depend on how strong their case is though.
ÆMNE22A!C
Banned
It doesn't matter if you play the game. It's about BEING IN THE MIX of drama. It's virtue signaling, yeah I said it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
ÆMNE22A!C
Banned
Maybe play the game and enjoy yourself instead of trying to get off on this blown out non issue drama.. If it's not GT7 it's something else next week. Vultures know where the weak points lie
Whatever nothing personal just getting tired of this drama carry one much love
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Why don't you go play the game instead of shitting on people discussing something they find interesting.
Oh wait, is it down again?
:Troll:
But seriously.. MTX/game economies are an industry wide topic, so people finding interest in how Sony is changing their ways can do so w/o buying GT7 specifically. I don't have GT7 (yet) but my console of choice is Playstation. And I plan to buy GT7. So Sony related MTX convos are of interest to me.
I'm not even really fussed over these changes myself, just laughing at the absurdity of Kaz's sleazy BS lol
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ÆMNE22A!C
Banned
. The whole GT7 story is a joke.
kingfey
Banned
These dramas are normal here.
There is another post with 21 page, about the initiative right now.
Its just that this game, has 2 things people here hate the most. Always online, and the mtx. These attracts alot of people here.
I would say, don't let it bother you. It will get fixed, and people here will forget about it in 1-2 month from now on. Just like how halo infinite gameplay in 2020 become a memory.
NinjaBoiX
Member
You know how games like Fortnite exploit their loyal fanbase with MTX for pointless aesthetic trinkets that don't affect the base game whatsoever, and allow the actual game to exist without gameplay balance interruptions whatsoever?
That's a sound business model, which I fully endorse.
So when folk have willingly ponied up a substantial sum of money to buy the game upfront, as is, how about you treat them with some common courtesy and let them enjoy it without hovering a hand over their wallet the whole time?
You got your money, that you decided the game was worth. Don't then go on to impinge on your loyal customers goodwill, it won't end well.
Consumers are savvy these days, believe…
That's a sound business model, which I fully endorse.
So when folk have willingly ponied up a substantial sum of money to buy the game upfront, as is, how about you treat them with some common courtesy and let them enjoy it without hovering a hand over their wallet the whole time?
You got your money, that you decided the game was worth. Don't then go on to impinge on your loyal customers goodwill, it won't end well.
Consumers are savvy these days, believe…
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Lol this is the usual bunch of drama over nothing that has now become common for everything and make discussing things online just toxic.
First the server outage now solved and some people acting like their life depended on playing the game 24/7 (first world problems indeed while the world is going through a lot).
And now the mtx stuff.
This game is a live service, it is not a PS2 offline GT.
It is meant to be played for years while they add more seasons of contents.
There is an in-game economy, it's obvious that the most powerful and expensive cars would be put behind a grind or pay barrier.
It's just the reality of these games. You're not supposed to end the game and get all the contents in two weeks.
First the server outage now solved and some people acting like their life depended on playing the game 24/7 (first world problems indeed while the world is going through a lot).
And now the mtx stuff.
This game is a live service, it is not a PS2 offline GT.
It is meant to be played for years while they add more seasons of contents.
There is an in-game economy, it's obvious that the most powerful and expensive cars would be put behind a grind or pay barrier.
It's just the reality of these games. You're not supposed to end the game and get all the contents in two weeks.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Truer words have never been spoken.
Personally I think these discussions should be had, since there are some practices I am not kosher with, even though they don't really impact me full stop yet (always online for single player)... but those who have platform loyalties as their driving force are all up in here time and time again like blood in the water.
Aguero9320
Member
I'm reminded of the old saying, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
Someone should let Kaz know, because that's a terribly ill advised quote
Someone should let Kaz know, because that's a terribly ill advised quote
Cyberpunkd
Member
Yeah, that's the spin I did not seen coming.Work 2 jobs to spend more money on MTX in GT7. Cars are expensive in real life too after all
Nice PS3 reference though.
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Nemesisuuu
Member
GenericUser
Member
I mean, savegame editors are a thing on consoles. I kinda makes sense, but at the same time it doesn't make sense at all.
As soon as you let campaign cars into sports mode, you open the door for cheating. I think separating campaign/offline mode from sports mode would have made more sense.
ÆMNE22A!C
Banned
Well said man
modiz
Member
Jim Ryan took over.
zaanan
Banned
What a timely outage. Perfect illustration of why "always online" games are totally unacceptable. His letter should have said, "I apologize that this outage affected singleplayers. We are currently patching the game to be 100% offline for all non-multiplayer modes, and we promise to never, ever do that again."
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
ethomaz
Banned
Around 10 minutes these one listed.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If you guys are expecting me to buy a PS5 to 'safely' comment that ain't happening. I'm OK with a PS4 copy.
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Oddvintagechap
Banned
it makes sense if Manufacturers all want to charge the same amount or are asking for same percentage of profits. Sony using IRL prices takes the price decisions off everyone's hands.
This is why Sony is making their own cars. They are like fuck this. lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's all about the selective energy habits.
If you guys are expecting me to buy a PS5 to 'safely' comment that ain't happening. I'm OK with a PS4 copy.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
, maybe not about the reasons why 
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daclynk
Member
U think is not about milking more money from potential payers if they removed ability to sell cars and make prices of cars in game like cars in real life. HAHAHAHA
wvnative
Member
i don't play gt
So your telling me they specificlly called out save editing as a reason for always online yet there's not even a local save?
ethomaz
Banned
There is no local save because it is server side save.
That is why it is always online.
The reason for that is what they said... they choose online save to avoid save editing, cheating and hackers.
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There's a local save. You'll have to forgive him, he's new to the PS5. The always online was a requirement by the FIA to prevent cheating in the Sport mode. It has nothing to do with save editing. If they detached sport mode from the campaign menu they could do the SP mode offline most likely.
wvnative
Member
So sport mode is separate from campaign?
StateofMajora
Banned
Please understand, we wanted more money. deal with it.
Technically yes, but it's accessed from the campaign map. So the campaign is stuck always online as long as you access it that way. If they detached it and put it on the main menu before you access to map they could probably do an offline campaign mode.
Black_Mamba
Member
Registering my lap times online and comparing it to other people's is the best thing on GTS/GTS7. Not to mention online races and championships, which are the main reason for playing in long term.
For people asking for GT7 offline, an honest question: would you trade the online rankings for the 0,000001% of the time your internet or the servers are offline?
For people asking for GT7 offline, an honest question: would you trade the online rankings for the 0,000001% of the time your internet or the servers are offline?
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
The bigger issue is that in 5 years the servers could be taken down rendering the game unplayable
Black_Mamba
Member
I doubt it will be offline in 5 years, but even if it happens in 10 years, the benefits of online rankings for a racing game far outweigh the cons, imo.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
You can have online rankings without forcing an "always online" game.
There is no need to compromise at all.
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modiz
Member
You can compare your lap times in other racing games, too.
These games don't need an always online connection for single player.
MaxwellParrish
Member
I think it's pretty clear : if no events has significant pay advantage there is no reason to chose one race in particular for the grind
