princemarth23
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I'm with you, brother. One of the best parts of the show imo. I always look forward to her antics.
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Kill la Kill |OT|
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I'm with you, brother. One of the best parts of the show imo. I always look forward to her antics.
foxuzamaki
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CornBurrito
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All three of them? Mako is too good to have haters.
I think it will be good, but I hope its not 12 episodes long.
I have a hard time believing that this arc is going to be the second half of the series.
As long as we eventually get to outer space, I'll be ok.
This is exactly how I felt about the show as well. I didn't like the first episode at all but from EP2 on I've loved every minute it. EP6 is probably my favorite because
MEN! DOU! KOTE!
God I can't wait until the Blu-Ray comes out.
CornBurrito
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Honestly I think it is a great show. Not the best anime ever, but I would rate it highly.
What did you think this was turning into?
But it is?
Dunno man, it's stumbled far too much and wasted too much space for it to be the case.
And Ryuko sucks.
Mako deserves better.
A real woman, like Satsuki.
I really hope that doesn't change in the second half.
CornBurrito
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Can anyone point out any major stumbles the show had made?
I think the show has been very good. Maybe it's because I only watch a lot of dramatic shows that I find the goofy energy from KLK so damn refreshing.
It's no Samurai Flamenco in the weekly surprise department, but I like the consistency of KLK. I'm reserving any real judgement until I see the whole thing though. I don't like criticizing individual episodes.
It's no Samurai Flamenco in the weekly surprise department, but I like the consistency of KLK. I'm reserving any real judgement until I see the whole thing though. I don't like criticizing individual episodes.
One of the big ones is sub rather sub-par pacing. It isn't One Piece or Attack on Titan levels of bad but we really did tarry too long with things like the Club Fights and the Kill of the Hill battle here.
Samurai Flamenco is getting weird.
CornBurrito
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I'm not really seeing that. Maybe because I was a latecomer? I marathoned the show on Crunchy and didn't have to wait 1 week for each episode. I haven't really felt they dwelled on anything too long. The only time I hated the pacing was episode 1.
Hmm, sure. The show can't handle drama, it's poorly paced, and after twelve episodes it's like . . . none of the characters are developed much outside of Satsuki. It's in part due to every other member of the cast defining themselves against her, and the contrast between her and Ryuko in that regard seems intentional, but it doesn't make for an engaging watch. It doesn't help that the show rarely carries over momentum built up in one episode to the other, either - I'm thinking of episode seven here in particular, which squanders the lead-in from episode six and somehow turns an episode with Makotaro and MANLY TEARS into feeling trite and unearned.
Even the new stuff in episode 12 feels boringly predictable; it's disappointing that they've chosen to handle the implications of naming the academy Honnoji in such a literal way.
Mako showed a lot of character growth in episode 7 and it was payed off in episode 12, I really do think that the Mako-Ryuko bond has been one of the high points of the series.
foxuzamaki
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Been my opinion aswell, I only think the big 4 fights dragged just a smidge, juuuuuusssst a smidge and it wasent really the fault of those fights, but more that we all expected something to happen, maybe they shouldnt have announced that this was 20+ episodes. though ofcourse, the average viewer wouldnt know this.
Really? I'm not seeing it man, I think you could use episode four (or whatever the episode was where she talks about how lonely she was/had no friends) as something to work off of, but it's not touched upon again. Both 7 and 12 display consistent characterization of what she is, but they're not instances of growth, and such.
foxuzamaki
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eh, we dont need to go into all that for mako, she has a friend now, we know she is better for it and I think the show deemed that it didnt need to go further for all of us sake.
Episode 7 showed that Mako was more complicated than meets the eye. She went through some pretty significant changes that deepened her character and strengthened her normal personality traits as well as her friendship with Ryuko.
Satsuki is such a boring character. She's way too "cool". There's no personality or character flaws in her and she's not really fun to watch.
Ryuko is ok, if really predictable. The show isn't bad, but the two main characters aren't very interesting, everything really falls on the secondary characters. I just finished the latest episode. I'll definitely continue to watch, but there's a of weak stuff in the show that they are hopefully able to rectify by the end of the series.
Ryuko is ok, if really predictable. The show isn't bad, but the two main characters aren't very interesting, everything really falls on the secondary characters. I just finished the latest episode. I'll definitely continue to watch, but there's a of weak stuff in the show that they are hopefully able to rectify by the end of the series.
The episode sets up the sophisticated Mako as something unnatural and out or order, though. It's all reversed by the end. I can see what you're saying with that second sentence, but for me, it seemed more of a regression than anything else.
I actually agree with this. She started off as a fairly interesting character, and some of the background stuff was interesting, but all I got from the flashbacks is that she has always been exactly the same forever and has never developed or changed as a person. If that's a plot point at some point, cool, but right now she comes off as a little static.
I would almost agree to this if not for the fact that we have actually seen many times that Satsuki has many more rounded edges then at first glance.
Doing things like having tea with Sangayama, preventing Gamagouri from committing suicide and a really big one order the Elite Four to evacuate the student body while she deals with Nui and Monaster Ryuko. Yea, her core has been rock solid since Kindergarten but then again she has had no reason to adjust her outlook in life. If she really is Vegeta, she needs a good ass kicking to defrost the ice.
That's a fair point, you're definitely right. I do hope those elements come to the forefront later on, though. The Vegeta comparison is apt.
Handling Satsuki as an Oda Nobunaga is literally the only thing they can do with her; someone that can be seen as both a hero and a villain. She most definitely isn't supposed to be a saint; hell, according to the extended preview
episode 13 is about Ryuuko learning the full extent of the atrocities committed in Satsuki's name and how terrible her totalitarian regime actually is. The new character is called Namida Shinjirou, he is a reporter and an obvious analogy to real life reporters under dictatorial governments.
Kill la Kill hasn't quite amazed me like I thought it would. It certainly exudes style and energy, but I'm not feeling the depth that would elevate it from enjoyable to memorable.
By depth, I mean more like the episodes featuring characters such as Tsumugu or blind-Sanageyama. As much as the series revels in slap-stick humour and plays up its whimsical tone, I feel it needs to be equally counter-posed a sense of urgency and gravitas (such as that provided by the aforementioned episodes). I find it hard to put into words, but it's like when you eat too much much sugar, something bitter becomes unbearable. I couldn't take the whole drama surrounding Ryuko throwing a hissy-fit (episode 12) seriously given that my dominant impression of the series is that it's a comedy. The two extremes in tone didn't mesh well in this case for me.
Moreover, I feel the pace is somewhat plodding. It's been 12 episodes, and we're still stuck at Honnouji. While we know a little bit more about the big players involved (such as Revocs and Nudist Beach), we don't know all that much. I was also going to say that the stakes haven't been raised enough given the 12 episodes (that's one season!), but I'll have to renege given the appearance of Nui.
Maybe I'm just viewing this series as something it isn't trying to be. I had hoped it would be more episodes 5 and 6 with comedy interspersed when, in fact, it's more the opposite. That's absolutely fine, I'm certainly enjoying watching this series, and I'll take this over absolute drek like harem-light-novel-adaptation-#1453.
By depth, I mean more like the episodes featuring characters such as Tsumugu or blind-Sanageyama. As much as the series revels in slap-stick humour and plays up its whimsical tone, I feel it needs to be equally counter-posed a sense of urgency and gravitas (such as that provided by the aforementioned episodes). I find it hard to put into words, but it's like when you eat too much much sugar, something bitter becomes unbearable. I couldn't take the whole drama surrounding Ryuko throwing a hissy-fit (episode 12) seriously given that my dominant impression of the series is that it's a comedy. The two extremes in tone didn't mesh well in this case for me.
Moreover, I feel the pace is somewhat plodding. It's been 12 episodes, and we're still stuck at Honnouji. While we know a little bit more about the big players involved (such as Revocs and Nudist Beach), we don't know all that much. I was also going to say that the stakes haven't been raised enough given the 12 episodes (that's one season!), but I'll have to renege given the appearance of Nui.
Maybe I'm just viewing this series as something it isn't trying to be. I had hoped it would be more episodes 5 and 6 with comedy interspersed when, in fact, it's more the opposite. That's absolutely fine, I'm certainly enjoying watching this series, and I'll take this over absolute drek like harem-light-novel-adaptation-#1453.
If it makes you feel better, producer Masahiko Otsuka textually said that "the second half is much more serious and the real meat of Kill la Kill". This is the quote.
I really hope this injects some much needed depth and animosity into Ryuko. One of my biggest problems with this show is that Ryuko is no hero, she does not stand up for the downtrodden, she has no interest in ending tyranny, she tears down the social order not because it is the right thing to do but because she thought it would "get" to Satsuki
and she got played for her single minded ignorance.
In the first half of the series much ado has been made about the shallowness of Ryuko's current quest, so shallow has it been
that even Mako and Satsuki have called her out on the vapidity of it all.
Indeed, Ryuko at the end of episode 12 was ready to move on to continue her feud with Nui until Satsuki tipped her hand about her role in Issin's execution. I am hoping that the combination of all of these factors generates some actual resentment not just Satsuki but all that she stands for; I have not been feeling the hatred, and I need to feel the hatred between these two.
How does one spoil an OST
I am guessing it has characters that have not been shown yet named in the titles.
I got the impression Ryuuko didn't care much for Satsuki's confession; her response was pretty matter of fact-ish and didn't get particularly mad until she realized she had been used. Still, the end of the episode felt a little weird considering the preview for episode 13 specifically mentions that Ryuuko is doubting herself and hesitates to use Senketsu again.
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