EL CUCO
Member
True! Forgot about him. Mercenaries is a great KZ game. It might be just as good as KZSF IMO. Only on a smaller scale.
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Killzone: Shadow Fall |OT| Nothing Stops This Rain
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True! Forgot about him. Mercenaries is a great KZ game. It might be just as good as KZSF IMO. Only on a smaller scale.
super-famicom
Member
Danner was silent the whole time and didn't seem to have a personality of his own (since YOU, the player, were Danner) unless I missed something in my playthrough. I wish he at least grunted or something whenever he got hit.
End game spoilers: I did like what Danner did regarding
the kid. Saving him and not selling out to anyone at the end did show he had a heart.
I came here to say the same thing, I was amazed by the negativity for this game that it it to difficult, that you will get lost, free fall has bad controls etc. The game is so much better than kz3. It has an old school shooter feel with a bit of deus ex mixed in. But than again my first FPS was Wolfenstein....
But I guess if you just want to be moved from shootout to shootout you will be disappointed
Is it a perfect game? Nope but a solid 8 for sure. As a side note if you look at the facial expressions they are very well done, makes me look forward to the next quantic dream game.
Is there anyway to disable the OWL HUD?
I dont want to turn off everything in the HUD... but i dont really want the OWL commands just sitting there in the middle of the screen around my reticule... do they go away at all or just sit there above, below or to the side of the reticule... it feels off balance when i have it set to the left or right...
I dont want to turn off everything in the HUD... but i dont really want the OWL commands just sitting there in the middle of the screen around my reticule... do they go away at all or just sit there above, below or to the side of the reticule... it feels off balance when i have it set to the left or right...
Are you me?
Yeah, the game is actually easier than KZ2 and KZ3 on normal, imo. Firefights are usually smaller-scale and the OWL is actually useful. I think the difficulty is near perfect. I can understand some of the criticism, like that the pacing is kinda "flawed" (liked it myself), the story is a mess and some parts might be underwhelming to some. But SF is not hard by any means and it's pretty easy not to get lost. The objective marker is good enough and the levels are quite linear.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
It is about time GG and other devs started doing something about all this HUD crap. Now this isn't really a criticism aimed at GG but come on folks. This overscan bullshit has got to stop someday. Let us do what we want with the HUD and actually use the good 20% of our screen that lies blank where HUD stuff could go.
Still looks like they are using 720p spots on the HUD or some crap. I only laugh when I see what Dark Souls people had to play with on their screen lol. Who the hell makes an HUD that big and acts like that is okay? Friggin' icon is the size of a small fist in Dark Souls ffs. Thank lord DSFix saved us there.
As for campaign this ranks a solid whatever. I honestly don't know and don't care. The KZ games have all had ups and downs. What I am not going to do is put KZ2 on a pedestal when that easily had some of the worst sections and worst bro man dialogue of them all. KZ2 was mostly fun. But it was also just a bunch of firefights and slow moving linear sections. I'd say it made corridor realism pretty decent. But it didn't wow me or anything and from what I remember it didn't wow many critics either. So in reality they are all about the same to me but SF has better art direction and gfx by a mile.
KZ3 had some of the coolest actors and setups but sadly did jack with them for the most part.
TacticalFox88
Banned
I don't think there's ever been a game more decisive than this on this forum.
Poster boy for "Love it or hate it".
Poster boy for "Love it or hate it".
polyh3dron
Banned
Multiplayer in this game is SOFA KING FUN.
You mean divisive. The game is only a mixed bag in SP - multiplayer is almost universally loved.
So, I'm on chapter 6 and I'm trying to figure out just when does the game actually get as bad as I've been led to believe? I've been having a blast thus far and outside of the checkpoint system being total ass, I've enjoyed the rather open nature of some of the areas. I'm someone who doesn't like being funneled through hallway after hallway (however disguised they might be) of the shooting gallery that I've done through a lot of these games. Just give me an objective and let me decide how I'll get there and I will investigate every nook and cranny along the way. ..I have been.
Really digging this direction though, reminds me a bit of Crysis 2 in that it's linear as all hell but they at least provide enough leeway in some spots to determine how you're going to proceed. I hope for the next one they continue on this path and blow it open, make stealth actually viable or at least provide no illusions that it should even be possible, and it'd be nice to have the zipline be bi-directional. Playing on Hard so the Owl has actually been useful throughout the campaign, haven't used the stun as much as I thought I would though.
Really digging this direction though, reminds me a bit of Crysis 2 in that it's linear as all hell but they at least provide enough leeway in some spots to determine how you're going to proceed. I hope for the next one they continue on this path and blow it open, make stealth actually viable or at least provide no illusions that it should even be possible, and it'd be nice to have the zipline be bi-directional. Playing on Hard so the Owl has actually been useful throughout the campaign, haven't used the stun as much as I thought I would though.
In my opinion, never. Chapter 7 might be the worst, though, but nothing too bad. Do you mean checkpoint placement or that it doesn't save the game after every checkpoint? If the latter, I agree.
Yeah it's pretty useful already on Normal in my experience. Stun becomes almost necessary in chapter 7, I think.
njean777
Member
Well something weird has happened with this game, I played through the whole campaign on hard mode and it didn't give me the trophies for chapter 1 or 2 but ended up giving me the trophies for all the other chapters, then it failed to give me the trophy for beating the game on hard mode. This is the first time I have ever seen something like this happen.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Well, beyond the obvious trolls most of the complaints are ordinary and quite small in the scheme of things. If you are having fun up to that chapter I seriously doubt you need to pay much attention to them. The usual bickering about random whatever and -4 points for lazy level design, story, and it's too hard is basically what half the thread is about.
For me personally the game took a dive in quality after chapter 6. I really liked everything up until then but after that it kind of just became an exercise in frustration and got away from what made the game enjoyable.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I've killed my self from my own grenades from the most ridiculous of circumstances.
No; KZ2 had fantastic AI; some of the best that I can recall from any FPS.
keltickennedy
Member
This game finally clicked for me. I wasn't really digging it when I started playing and took a break from it and just played AC4 all the way through. I came back to it over Thanksgiving break and started to feel real comfortable playing. Now I'm constantly using the owls different abilities and using the adrenaline slow mo when getting overwhelmed by a number of enemies. A big thing that has helped me a lot is constantly using the radar to spot enemies that are in proximity, giving me time to plan my attack. I am enjoying the game a lot now.
MDSLKTR
Member
Done with the campaign, will go back at it in a couple months with a fresh perspective, that's how all the killzone games grow on me over time (I disliked KZ2 and 3 first time I played them only to love them to death years after).
What I hated:
- I get that the shadow marshal must have his signature weapon on him all the time but why can't I have 3 weapons slots like in KZ3? Or at least let me keep the pistols (and why do we barely find any during the campaign? don't keep them exclusive to the mp section)
- Chapter 6, absolutely terrible chapter. Broken and frustrating stealth, no owl, framerate shits the bed at the end of the mission. Hope it get's patched.
- Chapter 8, beautiful graphics but not a single helghast to shoot in them
- WHY DO HEADS DON'T EXPLODE ANYMORE
Absolutely loved everything else. Can't really rank all the games in the franchise yet but I do hope the next killzone takes the mercenary progression system with the purchases and the contracts.
What I hated:
- I get that the shadow marshal must have his signature weapon on him all the time but why can't I have 3 weapons slots like in KZ3? Or at least let me keep the pistols (and why do we barely find any during the campaign? don't keep them exclusive to the mp section)
- Chapter 6, absolutely terrible chapter. Broken and frustrating stealth, no owl, framerate shits the bed at the end of the mission. Hope it get's patched.
- Chapter 8, beautiful graphics but not a single helghast to shoot in them
- WHY DO HEADS DON'T EXPLODE ANYMORE
Absolutely loved everything else. Can't really rank all the games in the franchise yet but I do hope the next killzone takes the mercenary progression system with the purchases and the contracts.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yes, the whole series' antagonist/protagonist relation dynamic is heavily inspired by pre, during and post WW2 history of our own. In case of KZSF there's an obvious parallel with the Berlin wall and the cold war.
End of Ch6 was one of the best fights you could hope for, I think. I really loved it (didn't notice any framerate problems like the poster above either, it was actually quite smooth...) End of Ch9 as well, but I'm not sure if I'd find it as enjoyable if I didn't start it off with a Voltage gun.
Really didn't enjoy what I played of the campaign, hoping multiplayer is downloaded when I get in to give that a whirl.
Couple of videos I took while playing though. Walking bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KsAnWocwqc
Oddly camp celebration to my suicide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq-xQY7njis
Couple of videos I took while playing though. Walking bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KsAnWocwqc
Oddly camp celebration to my suicide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq-xQY7njis
CheDominik
Member
Thanks, really helpful!
Thanks. I may do a few more of these so any feedback for how to improve them would be appreciated. Are there any requests for other parts of the game?
I'm enjoying this first level but stealth seems flawed. I was near a base of sorts and I ziplined down to an enemy to melee him but I guess he wasn't fully turned around so he spotted me before I melee killed him and I think it alerted the whole base. I don't think there was anyone else near him, just underneath, and he didn't fire a shot or even yell before I got him.
If it didn't do that it would have felt pretty badass pulling off what I did. This game seems to be mechanically deeper than 90% of shooters but it's not going to do a whole lot of good if 1 guy sees you and everyone in a mile radius becomes hostile and knows where you are.
If it didn't do that it would have felt pretty badass pulling off what I did. This game seems to be mechanically deeper than 90% of shooters but it's not going to do a whole lot of good if 1 guy sees you and everyone in a mile radius becomes hostile and knows where you are.
Finally finished it and ultimately really enjoyed it.
The end of Chapter 7 mixed with the beginning of Chapter 8 was the point where I liked it the least, but outside of that, the rest of the game was excellent. At times, it truly felt like a nice blend of Halo and Crysis with its own unique flavor, of course.
The much maligned falling sections were hit or miss. The first one, in Chapter 7, was actually really cool and easy to complete. The second one, however, was definitely frustrating initially but once I inverted the flight controls and understood how to control it, I had no issues. It's just such a sudden scene and the game offers the player no chance to really understand how it works before sending you into a building.
The mission variety was pretty top notch, I'd say, as they moved back and forth between lots of different gameplay styles.
It's also quite a striking looking game. This easily stands as one of the finest looking shooters I've seen to date. Just a perfect blend of materials, lighting, shaders, and effects. If not for the inconsistent framerate this would stand as the best looking shooter I've played on any platform to date.
The end of Chapter 7 mixed with the beginning of Chapter 8 was the point where I liked it the least, but outside of that, the rest of the game was excellent. At times, it truly felt like a nice blend of Halo and Crysis with its own unique flavor, of course.
The much maligned falling sections were hit or miss. The first one, in Chapter 7, was actually really cool and easy to complete. The second one, however, was definitely frustrating initially but once I inverted the flight controls and understood how to control it, I had no issues. It's just such a sudden scene and the game offers the player no chance to really understand how it works before sending you into a building.
The mission variety was pretty top notch, I'd say, as they moved back and forth between lots of different gameplay styles.
It's also quite a striking looking game. This easily stands as one of the finest looking shooters I've seen to date. Just a perfect blend of materials, lighting, shaders, and effects. If not for the inconsistent framerate this would stand as the best looking shooter I've played on any platform to date.
Keep in mind that there are alarm terminals that you need to disable to prevent everyone from being alerted. Keep an eye out for those and use the OWL to "hack" them.
That's not actually true. There are number of areas throughout the game that allow you to take out enemies using stealth.
There is to a degree. We're obviously not talking Thief here but up until that guard semi-spotted me and apparently alerted everyone else (which may or may not have happened, I might have missed someone else nearby or a camera) I hadn't been spotted in the level yet.
What I thought was cool was I only had 1 objective but I decided to go pretty much the exact opposite way which led to a very tight mountain pass that eventually led up to a brand new objective which was then placed on my list. I felt like I had actually explored on my own and found something of worth, although I'm sure they would have eventually told me to go up there.
Yeah once the alarm went off I was trying desperately to find it, but these guys were alerted before that happened. As soon as I took the guard out I heard the guy below shout something and come sprinting up the stairs at me.
I got past the much maligned Chapters 7 and 8 last night. And they weren't too bad at all. I think reading about them was far worse than actually playing them. 7 was kinda bland and, yes, 8 has that frustrating freefall section (took me about 20 tries but at least it was short with multiple checkpoints), but overall I dug them. Chapter 8 is GORGEOUS, so that helps.
Story is really bad. I have no idea what I'm doing half the time. That doctor has to be one of the worst video game characters (both in execution and conception) I've seen in a while. But this is a fun, often intense, campaign. And so far I've found it to be no more frustrating than KZ2.
Story is really bad. I have no idea what I'm doing half the time. That doctor has to be one of the worst video game characters (both in execution and conception) I've seen in a while. But this is a fun, often intense, campaign. And so far I've found it to be no more frustrating than KZ2.
The multiplayer UI is more than enough to most people to never play the game. It's a complete mess.
Unfortunately terrible multiplayer UI's are becoming a trend. COD: Ghosts, BF, Medal of Honor: Warfighter all have UI's that need a tutorial to navigate. UI's need to be simple and clear, not puzzles with options hidden behind 4 buttons.
KZ: Mercenary multiplayer UI compared to this mess feels like something made by the Gods.
BadAss2961
Member
Killzone 2 still takes the cake.
If you go toward one of the other objectives before it's active you can deactivate all of the alarms in the area before tackling the rest of the mission. I thought that was a cool benefit for not following the objective markers.
super-famicom
Member
Brightness setting. If the game is too dark/light for your TV/monitor you can move the slider to adjust accordingly.
Ok thanks
So If my plasma is perfectly calibrated I can just leave it at default?
Rising_Hei
Member
Finally, just completed it.
The mark sucks and sometimes you don't even see that robot you're supposed to use or you get your ass pwned -_-
Stealth also sucks, it is not very well implemented... the game works better when it's not triying to make you stealth.
Patch the mark to being clearer... but i don't see how could that fix chapter 10... it wasn't very fun to run around not knowing where my objetives are because the area was so crowed and full of detail... that's not a problem, but when the slightest mistake makes you start from 0... argh
Chapters 1-6 were amazing and 7-9 weren't that bad. I also liked the story... very uncommon to get an end like that
The mark sucks and sometimes you don't even see that robot you're supposed to use or you get your ass pwned -_-
Stealth also sucks, it is not very well implemented... the game works better when it's not triying to make you stealth.
Patch the mark to being clearer... but i don't see how could that fix chapter 10... it wasn't very fun to run around not knowing where my objetives are because the area was so crowed and full of detail... that's not a problem, but when the slightest mistake makes you start from 0... argh
Chapters 1-6 were amazing and 7-9 weren't that bad. I also liked the story... very uncommon to get an end like that
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Contrast adjusts the maximum luminance. Brightness controls adjusts the black-point of your system. Gamma controls the overall brightness of an image. Images which are not properly corrected can look either bleached out, or too dark.
The amount of people playing with dark or pissy images is gotta be shocking, would be nice if the console included a step by step Image brightness/contrast correction program to fine tune. I obviously use decent software, but not everyone is enthusiastic to look or know that there is something wrong, unless its fixed for them.
Beautiful graphics.
I hate the gameplay direction though.
I started playing today. Didn't even have a gun for the first 30 minutes or so. All cinematics, and then sneaking around with a knife. Not cool. Not a good way to start a game (poor design). Then I killed a few enemies with my knife and I couldn't even take their guns. WTF? Very boring. I feel like I'm going to have to force myself to continue playing this again.
The instructions in the top right hand corner are in a tiny font and almost impossible to read. I'm sure it was fine on their monitors when they were developing the game, but do they even test their games on TV's themselves?
The OWL.... I don't want it. Can I just shoot some Helghast scum and blow stuff up already!? Maybe the game gets better later on, but my first impression right now is negative.
Guerrilla Games really needs to move onto a new IP and possibly find some new designers and directors.
I hate the gameplay direction though.
I started playing today. Didn't even have a gun for the first 30 minutes or so. All cinematics, and then sneaking around with a knife. Not cool. Not a good way to start a game (poor design). Then I killed a few enemies with my knife and I couldn't even take their guns. WTF? Very boring. I feel like I'm going to have to force myself to continue playing this again.
The instructions in the top right hand corner are in a tiny font and almost impossible to read. I'm sure it was fine on their monitors when they were developing the game, but do they even test their games on TV's themselves?
The OWL.... I don't want it. Can I just shoot some Helghast scum and blow stuff up already!? Maybe the game gets better later on, but my first impression right now is negative.
Guerrilla Games really needs to move onto a new IP and possibly find some new designers and directors.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Now that I'm done with the campaign I've been playing some MP. It's decently fun, although I really wish they would have locked the FPS at 30 instead of allowing it to fluctuate so wildly between 30-60. It feels like I'm playing a game on my PC with the settings too high.
Wow. You get the OWL, which let's you get the gun, then you get the ammo, then you go shoot dudes. It's like, 5 minutes, maybe 10 if you get lost.
I NEED TO SHOOT PEOPLE NOW THOUGH!
Judging 12 hour games based on 15 minutes of play time is awesome.
From the very start of the 1st chapter, to finally getting a gun.... Way longer than 5 minutes.
It's 10-15 minutes of play time, excluding cutscenes.
I guess I didn't care because the gorgeous graphics were massaging my eyes and that double melee kill they teach you was fucking rad.
Whoaa! Looks like you don't need this game at all. Just play this GIF on your TV and pull the trigger button indefinitely. Satisfaction guaranteed!
... well that was one of my main complaints. Cutscenes, cinematics, etc.... 30-40 minutes in before you even see a gun.
Its just poor design IMO.
I already did that in Far Cry 3 a few months ago so it wasn't nearly as rad to me.