Tizoc
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King of Fighters XIV Roster Discussion thread. Leaked roster in first post
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LelouchViBritannia
Member
Has the day one patch been confirmed?
Observations/Problems I've had with online play, besides the lag:
1. When the lobby host quits, the entire room disbands, so you'll get booted out of your match and the lobby mid-game. Who thought this was a good idea?
2. The game has locked up on me several times when playing online. :|
3. There have been times where I could not join any open lobbies, even lobbies I'd joined earlier.
4. Perhaps some of the issues with lag have to do with the size of lobbies-- I played a guy yesterday several times. The first time I played him was in a 10 or 12 man lobby, that was full, and our matches were pretty laggy. The second time was in a lobby that was just the two of us...and the connection was great. Maybe it was just the host? Dunno.
So maybe smaller lobbies/ranked matches will be the way to play this. I haven't been able to try ranked since everybody has just been playing in lobbies when I've gone online.
1. When the lobby host quits, the entire room disbands, so you'll get booted out of your match and the lobby mid-game. Who thought this was a good idea?
2. The game has locked up on me several times when playing online. :|
3. There have been times where I could not join any open lobbies, even lobbies I'd joined earlier.
4. Perhaps some of the issues with lag have to do with the size of lobbies-- I played a guy yesterday several times. The first time I played him was in a 10 or 12 man lobby, that was full, and our matches were pretty laggy. The second time was in a lobby that was just the two of us...and the connection was great. Maybe it was just the host? Dunno.
So maybe smaller lobbies/ranked matches will be the way to play this. I haven't been able to try ranked since everybody has just been playing in lobbies when I've gone online.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Yeah, confirmed at EVO, I think. Day One patch to include legacy controller support and I'd assume some fixes
Edit: After EVO.
https://twitter.com/snkpofficial/status/764074909060390912
Yeah day one patch adds Legacy stick supports and Neo_G(od) just tweeted that it also adds online improvements.
Offtopic: I GOT IT URLEEEEH!!!!!!
Played about 3 hours of Story mode last night.
I wont leak anything but gotdamn if you're a fan of KOF this game has the best endings of the whole series.
The folks who wrote 'em clearly know and love KOF. I was marking out hard time on the few endings i saw. :3
(One in particular made me laugh, like legit IRL laugh)
Gameplay graphics sucks tho
Hope!
But I'm still skeptical-- years of horrible SNK net code will do that to you. :/
Real talk i expect nothing, i got the game just for the Single Player stuff. ¯\_(ツHope!
But I'm still skeptical-- years of horrible SNK net code will do that to you. :/
_/¯Holy Order Sol
Member
Hope!
But I'm still skeptical-- years of horrible SNK net code will do that to you. :/
Don't know how much it matters, but I randomly bumped into an "AltusInc" account or something like that. If it's real, they probably already let SNK know there were issues to take care of.
Via MMCafe:
Great to see them act quick like this.
Exhibition archive: https://www.twitch.tv/snkofficial/v/84456948
Great to see them act quick like this.
Exhibition archive: https://www.twitch.tv/snkofficial/v/84456948
ldcommando
Banned
Help! Just found the steel book version being sold early for 93 bucks. Don't know what to do...
Will remain skeptical. The same things were promised for KOF XII and XIII.
And I mean...I want this game to work well online- I'm just not getting my hopes up anymore. I used to be the biggest SNK mark here and I just can't get excited for their games anymore because of how they've handled a lot of their releases over the past decade or so. :\
Also from that same article:
LOLWUT
This isn't as bad as the joke that was XII online and XIII console, but it still needs a LOT of improvement. Even DOA5 Last Round works better online than this game does in its current state.
Help! Just found the steel book version being sold early for 93 bucks. Don't know what to do...
That's pretty pricey. The copy I got was $65 on eBay.
But still...URLEY.
RedAssedApe
Banned
would like to be pointed to these reports
the only thing i've seen so far is this srk post. are they both referencing one tournament organizer's tweets? the wording of the posts seem similar heh
http://shoryuken.com/2016/08/13/ear...ve-good-impressions-of-the-games-online-play/
not sure what "servers holding up" has to do with netcode...
ldcommando
Banned
I'm staring at the damn thing here... Decisions decisions
ThirstiestGamer 2.0
Member
Does anyone know the review embargo date for this?
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
That's a win in itself as flawless play online was never an option in their previous titles.
Holy Order Sol
Member
lol Clark's air throw is 100 dmg this is miserable
pretty much my experience with it except I have no idea where my opponents are and bars are mostly lies
pretty much my experience with it except I have no idea where my opponents are and bars are mostly lies
Reading some other impressions and it's really making me think that having just two-man lobbies with the streaming option turned off may make for a smooth experience. Will test this afternoon after work.
If small lobbies are the key to a good online experience...that's OK with me.
I've had matches with people in other states that were buttery smooth. Can't say that about KOF XIII.
If small lobbies are the key to a good online experience...that's OK with me.
I've had matches with people in other states that were buttery smooth. Can't say that about KOF XIII.
My friends are having the opposite. 1 on 1 lobbies feel terrible to them, having it lag and slow down. But when more people join in on the lobby, their connection somehow got better lol
Rummy Bunnz
Member
The slowdown is so erratic it has to be a bug or unfinished
https://t.co/XrOx8oIfra
Mmh, quite enjoying the Zarina play. Great confirms with her long reaching quick normals, lots of wallbounce and stuff everywhere, using, CD for kara-movement with her leaping forward kick for confirms, etc, etc.
Oh, and very solid Kensou play. Quite enjoying watching that too.
Mmh, quite enjoying the Zarina play. Great confirms with her long reaching quick normals, lots of wallbounce and stuff everywhere, using, CD for kara-movement with her leaping forward kick for confirms, etc, etc.
Oh, and very solid Kensou play. Quite enjoying watching that too.
That Billy damage.
Very cool addition, he is looking strong. Being able to combo after overhead and being able to combo said overhead after hard and light normals is excellent.
I really like that two hit command normal of her's and it comboing off of lights. Her normals are looking really effective.
Very cool addition, he is looking strong. Being able to combo after overhead and being able to combo said overhead after hard and light normals is excellent.
I really like that two hit command normal of her's and it comboing off of lights. Her normals are looking really effective.
Justin would have taken this free if it was the full game and not just the demo, he went so far with just Mai zooning, imagine if he had King and Athena in the team!
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I'm competing in/providing a setup for a KOFXIV tournament in Toronto this Saturday. Thinking of running Angel/Zarina/Alice (would Angel be better as point or anchor?) but I might swap out one of the newbies for Geese if I can't get them working in time.
On that note, do folks who already have the game consider Zarina and Alice to be difficult? Learning two characters from scratch in half a week is daunting but I really like them both and would rather only use Geese as a last resort if possible (though that CD -> Raging Storm -> OTG grab setup might get me out of a few jams).
On that note, do folks who already have the game consider Zarina and Alice to be difficult? Learning two characters from scratch in half a week is daunting but I really like them both and would rather only use Geese as a last resort if possible (though that CD -> Raging Storm -> OTG grab setup might get me out of a few jams).
That was fun to watch. One thing I find kinda funny is that people were mostly only dropping combos because they were overly ambitious. Shun'Ei could have just went into a DM so many times, but he went for more wall bounces or additional uppercuts.
And so many resets that left an opponent alive and approaching a comeback. I liked seeing them, as we haven't seen as many MAX->Resets yet, but on a final round? Just kill 'em off!
Was especially nice to see some very Solid Billy play, too. Moves might not do what they did in a previous version for characters, but what they do now seems to have some good thought put behind it. Billy seems to be able to force standing with his cr.C just like Kyo, solidifying his damage and juggles.
MuiMui also seems to be able to combo into her command normal from Far cr.C?! Sounds great for MAX mode combos, since close normals can be a bit suspect off certain confirms.
Zarina looks exactly like what I want after playing Sylvie, Nelson, and Mai in the demo; someone who fights with normals kinda like Nelson's combos, but with the range and variety of Mai's, and that is entirely better ranged than almost everything Sylvie has, haha. Yet still with great close up confirms off lights, and unique hit situations.
Every time I see someone show the potential of a new character, I want to break up my old "mains" and make them captains of new separate teams. Just SO many characters that could end up as surprise hits (As mentioned, I like Shun'Ei more than I expected, for one), and there really looks to be unique fun sprinkled liberally through each member of the cast.
And they're streaming all the pool matches for XIV tomorrow, too. This will make the wait easier...
And so many resets that left an opponent alive and approaching a comeback. I liked seeing them, as we haven't seen as many MAX->Resets yet, but on a final round? Just kill 'em off!
Was especially nice to see some very Solid Billy play, too. Moves might not do what they did in a previous version for characters, but what they do now seems to have some good thought put behind it. Billy seems to be able to force standing with his cr.C just like Kyo, solidifying his damage and juggles.
MuiMui also seems to be able to combo into her command normal from Far cr.C?! Sounds great for MAX mode combos, since close normals can be a bit suspect off certain confirms.
Zarina looks exactly like what I want after playing Sylvie, Nelson, and Mai in the demo; someone who fights with normals kinda like Nelson's combos, but with the range and variety of Mai's, and that is entirely better ranged than almost everything Sylvie has, haha. Yet still with great close up confirms off lights, and unique hit situations.
Every time I see someone show the potential of a new character, I want to break up my old "mains" and make them captains of new separate teams. Just SO many characters that could end up as surprise hits (As mentioned, I like Shun'Ei more than I expected, for one), and there really looks to be unique fun sprinkled liberally through each member of the cast.
And they're streaming all the pool matches for XIV tomorrow, too. This will make the wait easier...
Dark_Tzitzimine
Member
http://mancomb-seepwood.deviantart.com/art/Epic-King-of-fighters-doodle-220753065
I can't decide if this is awesome or insane.
I can't decide if this is awesome or insane.
CommandThrower
Member
That stream had some great Billy play, which is great because he's one of the characters I have my eyes on.
Ahh...just a few days left. First thing I'm doing is hitting training mode with Chang and Xanadu. I've got ideas, and I needs to see if they work.
Don't have the game yet, but personally, I'd like to avoid running characters that have too similar gameplans like Alice and Zarina at the same time. If your opponent gets great at shutting down your in-close mixup and pressure, you're left with little to make them uncomfortable, like projectiles, great command grapples, dangerous Chip damage, or armored moves.
As far as Angel for point or anchor... Hard to say. Are you great at using U.C stuff on it's own? You might be able to run her at point very effectively. But if you want to reply on easy floats/ confirms into DMs, and being able to use her counter DM, she might make a good anchor.
From the 4 you listed, I'd see this as strengths and weaknesses:
Geese: More all around than the others, can switch style from rushdown to turtling on the fly, gets great damage out out DMs, Raging Storm is a legit multi-level threat here.
Zarina: Seems to have easy stuff to use for genral attacks, and has a baby Rising storm in her Yellow Eruption DM, Seems honest, and low on dirty BS style trickery.
Alice: Doesn't leave herself in the best position for extended DM combos, but has solid basic damage. Run-away is gimmicky effective for now, Probably better up-front rather than as an anchor.
Angel: You seem comfortable with her, so might be your strongest? Sounds like a good mid-position choice.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Hm, okay. Who do most people think are stronger between Alice and Zarina? I'll run one of those two on point, Angel as mid and Geese as anchor so I can steal matches with CD Raging Storm shenanigans.
I also have a decent grasp on Terry from my CvS2 and KoF XI days but I've heard a lot of people saying that he's kind of garbage in XIV...
I also have a decent grasp on Terry from my CvS2 and KoF XI days but I've heard a lot of people saying that he's kind of garbage in XIV...
Smooth Operator
Member
I like Alice so far, especially in first position. She's solid, her qcf+a followup is positive on block (+2/3 i think), she has good pokes, her overhead is like, really fast with really good range. The only thing i don't like with her is that i, got a lot of far C/D instead of close C/D even when i feel like i'm in range. I thought it was me at first but Frionel talked about that too yesterday.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Thanks, I'll take all of this into consideration. Can she special cancel 2C or only 2A? I've heard that doing the Duck King followup on QCF+A then continuing pressure with Diving Tackle is a really good blockstring but other than that I need to learn combos/pressure strings for her.
Choppasmith
Member
Slightly OT, but SNK just released a Sky Love (Love Heart's series) trailer on their YT Page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBlqXZua0Tg
I assume like the Dragon Gal trailer, this is just a look back or possible mobile port or something...?
Man I love how rich the world is. REALLY hope SNK is considering making a new game with these characters. I'd take any genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBlqXZua0Tg
I assume like the Dragon Gal trailer, this is just a look back or possible mobile port or something...?
Man I love how rich the world is. REALLY hope SNK is considering making a new game with these characters. I'd take any genre.
Smooth Operator
Member
She can cancel 2A and 2C. Regarding the roll followup it's a good blockstring but you're unsafe on block (When i block that with Alice for example, i can 2B->5B-Rekka)
Oh and yeah, i forgot to talk about 2B->5B : 5B is a 2-hit move, cancellable (With light rekka for example). Really easy to hit confirm stuff with that.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Dang, Diving Tackle's unsafe on block? No one ever punishes it in the videos I've seen so I just assumed it was plus.
Does she rely on hops a lot as part of her gameplan? Even after all this time I still can't do them with 100% consistently during pressure (I can pull 'em off fine in neutral though) so it'd be nice if I were able to focus more on the ground game.
Atlus is streaming: https://www.twitch.tv/atlususa
Pools will Start at 5PM and will be on KPB: https://t.co/T3ti4d9Kx6
You guys are in for a treat with the OT, SAB CA is going nuts with creating amazing pixel art and animation for it.
If by garbage you mean that Terry has been considered one of the stronger characters since first being playable and is much better than he was in XIII then yeah... he's garbage
Dat Alice, her cosplay potential is high.
If by garbage you mean that Terry has been considered one of the stronger characters since first being playable and is much better than he was in XIII then yeah... he's garbage
Dat Alice, her cosplay potential is high.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
If by garbage you mean that Terry has been considered one of the stronger characters since first being playable and is much better than he was in XIII then yeah... he's garbage
Wait, really? Obviously I haven't had a chance to play him and test for myself but during the EVO tournament I saw a couple of pro players calling him unviable and a few more dropping him from the lineup after failing to get results.
Maybe I'll consider him as a sub if he's truly not bad, then. Hmm, potential side time of Terry/Zarina/Love Heart perhaps?
Holy Order Sol
Member
No way Terry can be ass with that Burn Knuckle A, restored normals and that Takuma j.CD.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Yup, a safe burn knuckle on block sounds like a nightmare to deal with
Marvel
could never
I know, very happy to put down SFV for this.
I feel like more so than any other KoF, I'm getting far normals when I feel like I would've gotten close C/D in any other game.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Still wish they would have stayed with sprites :/
How was that the first time I've seen Angel on the WINNER! screen in all this time? lol. Will post the screen if anyone takes one...
I loved the XIII sprites more than possibly anyone around... but I can't fault them for what they accomplished here. I don't know of any company on the planet currently that could make XIII level sprites with this kinda content and make a reasonable profit, or get the game out in less than a decade, heh.
I really think there should be a place for classically 2D companies to continue their craft in smaller, more focused works. NISA does a pretty nice job with portable stuff, for example. And the WIld Guns Reloaded game is like a dream come true for a focused, HD'n of an SNES game to something around Super Neo Geo-ish standards.
SNK made the right call for trying to actually bring back their games division as more than a team that's always on a single, thin lifeline. I hope that they can explore more and more avenues as time goes on, just like they did in the earlier console / arcade eras.
I loved the XIII sprites more than possibly anyone around... but I can't fault them for what they accomplished here. I don't know of any company on the planet currently that could make XIII level sprites with this kinda content and make a reasonable profit, or get the game out in less than a decade, heh.
I really think there should be a place for classically 2D companies to continue their craft in smaller, more focused works. NISA does a pretty nice job with portable stuff, for example. And the WIld Guns Reloaded game is like a dream come true for a focused, HD'n of an SNES game to something around Super Neo Geo-ish standards.
SNK made the right call for trying to actually bring back their games division as more than a team that's always on a single, thin lifeline. I hope that they can explore more and more avenues as time goes on, just like they did in the earlier console / arcade eras.
Terry A burn knuckle can be dp out of in a block string. cl. C (2 hits) into qcb+A has a gap where the opponent with invincible move can just let it ripped. Also, he will always be grabbed on recovery since grabs are no longer techable on special move recovery.
Gap or Punishable by regular grab in Route/ Block Strings:
1. cl. C (1 hit), df+C, [gap] qcb+A
2. [Midscreen] cl. C (2 hits), [gap] qcb+A
3. [Corner] cl. C (2 hits), qcb+A [punishable by regular grab]
4. [Midscreen] cr. C, [gap] qcb+A
5. [Corner] cr. C, qcb+A [punishable by regular grab]
6. cl. D, qcb+A [punishable by regular grab]