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King of Fighters XIV Roster Discussion thread. Leaked roster in first post
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Good find!
Would you (or anyone here, for that matter) happen to know how much of the old AOF/FF crew was a part of '94's development? It certainly would make much more sense why XIV really does feel like a revival of a lot of concepts and themes that take over from where 94 and 95 left off. Right down to how we're back to a guy like Antonov standing in for Rugal as the tournament host, and now Chang and Choi are on a proper "Villain/Outlaw Team" that the 94 dev team originally wanted them on.
Yes, please.
Having said that, though...some of these guys look like they may have been giving new life in the form of some of the XIV newbies. The new lady two spaces away from Kain and the big guy second from the last space on the last row look like they could be Antonov and Toucan Girl in a previous life, to me.
OmegaDL50
Member
Director Oda was originally part of the Garou and Real Bout dev staff.
Apparently a lot of the old guard SNK R&D one prior to the initial bankruptcy and Playmore Acquisition are working on KOFXIV.
I guess this explains why XIV is closer to 98 and older SNK stuff in terms of design rather than more recent KOFs like XI and XIII.
Yeah, I know this much, at least, and still very glad that became the case!
But I was always just curious to know about the backstory of 94, and who was there, at the time. Like Fatal Fury Special's surprise Ryo appearance sparked KOF, and how what became KOF94 itself went through a lot of changes that started as a side-scrolling beat em up, before becoming the first entry in the series that we're all here for, now.
The only other source I know of that speaks on these types of things is Shmuplatons' great translation of the '94 Mook, but otherwise, of course, information is pretty scarce.
Agreed, her design is actually close to what I had hoped Zarina's would be (baggy pants ala Pupa from Rage of the Dragons).
The Garou 2 character looks like she may have been related to Joe somehow, a student maybe?
...Now that you mention it...
A lot of old rumors for Garou 2 said that a "female student of Joe Higashi" (or something to that effect) was going to appear on the roster. This probably was her.
Guess time will tell if Zarina/Toucan Girl really is the revival of that concept or not. We already have Banderas chasing after Mai, so what would be one more South American relation to the Fatal Fury cast?
I would have loved to have seen Rob Python and that dude with the red hair and bad ass gi in action.
Also... KOF NEEDS a Buirki ONE team.
That would add some nice substance to Joe actually, he is currently the odd one out since Terry has Geese to deal with and Andy like you mentioned has... well...
That would add some nice substance to Joe actually, he is currently the odd one out since Terry has Geese to deal with and Andy like you mentioned has... well...
Terry also has his "new" (to most of us, anyway) fangirl Alice to deal with, on the same token. If Joe really is supposed to be portrayed as somewhat more serious this time around, he having a student/protege of his own would give him something to show for, as well.
On that note...I'm glad that the Fatal Fury cast, in general, seems to have quite more relevance to the plot, this time around. Shoot, Tung, of all people, is on the designated Hero Team, so that just gives Terry and Geese more agency to be involved in whatever the old Hakkyokuseiken master is up to.
If anything, I'm just a bit worried about Ryo and his crew being a bit left out. Why they didn't just give Ryo his "Mr. Karate" upgrade/status at long last, so that he would at least have that much cred to his name in-verse, is still something that I shake my head about.
the androgyne
Member
『Inaba Resident』;208229404 said:
Just going off translate, pretty easy to follow and lots of info! Seems they went with the in-house engine after looking at Unreal, so they could get up to speed with 3d properly instead of taking the easy way out. And Nakoruru made it in partly to help get the engine ready for more "unique" characters... like characters with weapons ... ! Don't want to get too excited too soon... but man, the future is looking NOW!
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I always thought that a Garou 2 would have reintroduced characters from the original Fatal Fury games. Strange that this actually wasn't the plan.
KOFXIV's Japanese exclusives all unveiled.
It's great to see them finally give the FF cast some actual significance, they have always just kinda been there in KOF and that was it.
Don't know how involved they are with the story yet but just from the creation/gameplay perspective, they seem to have put a lot of effort into the Ikari team as well.
And yeah, really bummed that they aren't doing much worth mentioning with Ryo. But then again I guess it gives us something to look forward to outside of KOF, it would be cool to see the Karate version in a new FF etc.
Sounds like a juicy interview, Professor said that he might translate it.
Apparently Neo_G explains why he moved to SNK.
It's great to see them finally give the FF cast some actual significance, they have always just kinda been there in KOF and that was it.
Don't know how involved they are with the story yet but just from the creation/gameplay perspective, they seem to have put a lot of effort into the Ikari team as well.
And yeah, really bummed that they aren't doing much worth mentioning with Ryo. But then again I guess it gives us something to look forward to outside of KOF, it would be cool to see the Karate version in a new FF etc.
Sounds like a juicy interview, Professor said that he might translate it.
Apparently Neo_G explains why he moved to SNK.
Shoot, I would have LOVED that Joshin Denki exclusive Garou theme. Amiami has no exclusives this time around
OrochiJR
Member
Do it, SNK!!!! Those characters look pretty awesome, I wonder how far the game was into development before it was canned.
OmegaDL50
Member
Garou was basically the SFIII equivalent for the Fatal Fury series. In the sense that it was almost entirely an all new cast and next generation of newcomers.
Considering the game have an aging (35+) Terry Bogard who is slightly out of shape and can't properly execute the Rising Tackle anymore. The apparent protege of both Mai and Andy, Gato who shares some moves with Tung Fu Rue (Elevator kicks and palm strikes), The son of Geese raised by Terry sharing fighting style influence of both.
B. Jenet who is basically replacement for Mai in a sense, Marco being AOF / Kyokugen Rep, The Dong Hwan and Jae Hoon being the Kim reps. Tizoc, basically being the new wresting candidate replacing Raiden / Big Bear, Kevin Ryan being a distant relative of Blue Mary, Freeman being basically the new Yamazaki as the new deranged fighter character.
Basically the only one seemingly lacking from Garou would have been the Joe protege, it seems Garou 2 would have addressed this.
Hopefully it still happens.
the androgyne
Member
Crazy thing is, they could probably just release MOW2 unfinished, bug ridden, on AES itself and still make money from it, nevermind some emu'd ports!
shaowebb
Member
Whoooooa...is the Team China trailer out yet then? I'm eager to see Meitenkun's sleepy fist.
Atlus streaming KOFXIV from CEO (?).
KOFXIV won't have color edit it seems, according to SRK.
Nope, not yet unfortunately.
KOFXIV won't have color edit it seems, according to SRK.
Nope, not yet unfortunately.
Thanks, will throw this in the CEO stream.
Yeah, I'm not super fond of the character design but I'm really interested in seeing what Sleep Fu will look like.
Holy Order Sol
Member
None. Almost all light fireballs can be treated like a light Sonic Boom in that you can walk behind them even if the motion isn't charge though.
OmegaDL50
Member
The only character in KOF that was similar to Guile was Ash, but he's not in KOF XIV for obvious reasons. I mean he had basically a Sonic Boom esque projectile and a Flash Kick.
Outside of Ash, there wasn't another character with a similar moveset in comparison with Guile.
Technically you could make one in KoF XI (Gai, Silber and Ryo - not sure if there was a Yong Song palette for Kim...).
If the 2nd guy frmo the bottom right is supposed to be Rob Python, the sprite looks taller than I imagined.
None of the other characters looks like the grown-up Chonrei I'd have liked to see in a Garou 2, but still, that's one hell of a reveal after so many years...
There are still some characters whose gameplay hasn't been revealed yet, so for all we know Alice could end up having a similar enough skill set...
I'm going to need the Shunei art by Hiroaki to become a poster. Damn. Do the exclusives themes come with any ditigal copies?
AT_Ryo_Sakazaki translated some of the things discussed in the 4Gamer interview:
"quick traslate (sorry for the english : P)
- The Unreal engine was one of the candidates for the graphics engine. The idea has been shelved in favor of an engine developed from them.
- One of the styles used at the beginning was less "anime" and more realistic. But the iconic characters with strange hair colors (like Kula and Athena) were creating too strong contrast with the style and they were not pleasant
- According to them Sylvie will be the most popular characters among fans
- Hoping that Kukri and Antonov will be accepted by the fans.
- Xanadu is a very deep character, maybe even too much for some people!
- Arcade mode like other KOF, the teams will have some cutscene before some fights and a final ending after the final boss.
- No plans for DLC characters. "Many are ask for the Orochi Team ... but they died! It would be unfair to come up with a "well ... are alive!". In addition to DLC characters it is too early to talk about it, first need to see how the game will sell. However if the demands were high we can maybe find some compromise"
ONLINE MODE
- Free Match (Team Vs, Vs and Single Party Vs) 12 players can participate and you can see the match
- Rank Match. there will be the possibility to search challengers while playing in single player (at the arcade or training mode)
- In Free Match there will be a chat and the ability to play simultaneously 6 match (Like GGXrd lobby)
- RagingStorm command change
- Future plans for SNK?
- Garou 2? The old project for NeoGeo was already half developed
- "I would like to make a new World Heroes (the rights are on SNKPlaymore)"
- "Or maybe a new Buriki One, with modern pad could be played with both the analog without additional special stick."
- "Or an Art of Fighting! They want to bring back the Neogeo brand"
- "Samurai Shodown also a more serious and brute. "MK-style?" (Ask him) Yes, but more "bitter" and suitable for old men who like costume drama.
- Windjammers would be another possible candidate for a sequel but at the moment they have problems of rights."
No clue, the digital version isn't up for pre-order on psn yet iirc.
"quick traslate (sorry for the english : P)
- The Unreal engine was one of the candidates for the graphics engine. The idea has been shelved in favor of an engine developed from them.
- One of the styles used at the beginning was less "anime" and more realistic. But the iconic characters with strange hair colors (like Kula and Athena) were creating too strong contrast with the style and they were not pleasant
- According to them Sylvie will be the most popular characters among fans
- Hoping that Kukri and Antonov will be accepted by the fans.
- Xanadu is a very deep character, maybe even too much for some people!
- Arcade mode like other KOF, the teams will have some cutscene before some fights and a final ending after the final boss.
- No plans for DLC characters. "Many are ask for the Orochi Team ... but they died! It would be unfair to come up with a "well ... are alive!". In addition to DLC characters it is too early to talk about it, first need to see how the game will sell. However if the demands were high we can maybe find some compromise"
ONLINE MODE
- Free Match (Team Vs, Vs and Single Party Vs) 12 players can participate and you can see the match
- Rank Match. there will be the possibility to search challengers while playing in single player (at the arcade or training mode)
- In Free Match there will be a chat and the ability to play simultaneously 6 match (Like GGXrd lobby)
- RagingStorm command change
- Future plans for SNK?
- Garou 2? The old project for NeoGeo was already half developed
- "I would like to make a new World Heroes (the rights are on SNKPlaymore)"
- "Or maybe a new Buriki One, with modern pad could be played with both the analog without additional special stick."
- "Or an Art of Fighting! They want to bring back the Neogeo brand"
- "Samurai Shodown also a more serious and brute. "MK-style?" (Ask him) Yes, but more "bitter" and suitable for old men who like costume drama.
- Windjammers would be another possible candidate for a sequel but at the moment they have problems of rights."
No clue, the digital version isn't up for pre-order on psn yet iirc.
I'm liking this. They seem very ambitious and that's a great sign. Gonna buy 3 kofs to support these fools. They are making dreams happen right now.
Everything sounds good, except for one thing.
No, you fools! You're overthinking it, especially when you're lining up a Final Boss who can apparently bend reality to his whims, already!
If you just don't want to think about DLC for right now, fine. Maybe it might be better that way, so you can just focus on the main product (and also assuage those who are so burned by other companies' practices). But you got so many characters that people want to see return, that "lol they ded" should be the last reason a fighting game dev cites as a reason why they can't return in a game!
No, you fools! You're overthinking it, especially when you're lining up a Final Boss who can apparently bend reality to his whims, already!
If you just don't want to think about DLC for right now, fine. Maybe it might be better that way, so you can just focus on the main product (and also assuage those who are so burned by other companies' practices). But you got so many characters that people want to see return, that "lol they ded" should be the last reason a fighting game dev cites as a reason why they can't return in a game!
Seriously. Falcoon himself said it was 70% done years ago.
Leona, I guess. Her fireball game is nowhere near the same but she has a charge anti-air move and some strong normals. If you don't care about the motion and just want somebody who can abuse the crap out of two moves all day, Athena and Kensou may fit the bill. I mean, Athena has a song for a reason.
YES. YES. YES. This is what I want to see in the future! Glad they didn't go with UE4 to be honest. This game has palette diversity. Also, I love that SNK actually thinks about whether characters returning makes sense.
SNK keeps whispering these sweet nothings into my ear.
CommandThrower
Member
Hmmm. "Too deep" as in he's a mechanically technical character, or "too deep" from a character biography sense? I feel like both could apply with somebody like Xanadu.
Is this the first time they are acknowledging there will be an arcade mode? I'm extremely happy to hear its in the game.
Yup, his Nako is doing everything I hoped she could, and more!
Enjoyed Xiao Hai's K' too, we don't see much of him in this game yet.
CommandThrower
Member
Oh shit, I forgot that was on. I'll have to catch the archive, because I don't have time to watch it now.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Nakoruru looks so strong. I'll have to play her.
Shit, i've said that for like 12 characters so far ~.~
Holy Order Sol
Member
Someone on SRK said ranbu-type motion.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Yeah, the original article says it's qcb-hcf (2141236) now.
OmegaDL50
Member
So it can be done the same way as a Power Geyser now.
That's going to make it easier to do Standing C hit confirm into something like f+A and finish with Raising Storm for an easy 3 hit SDM combo.
I know it was temporary but Robert had a revamped Guile moveset at one point in NeoGeo Battle Coliseum and the PS2 version of KOF XI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXfgD1w5dec
If you gotta trade a pretzel motion, making it another one of SNK's most notable commands makes a lot of sense. As much as I like KI's simple commands, I'd love at least one character to have SNK-style motions, because I honestly love doing them, lol.
Raizing Stohm off of CD's and out of combos all day... I'm never a huge GEESE player, but with the reduction in invincibility on moves in this game, and the lack of Kasumi Todoh, might really push me to playing him for his counters... and to show all the Rock worshippers what a REAL "Howard" plays like, heh heh.
Raizing Stohm off of CD's and out of combos all day... I'm never a huge GEESE player, but with the reduction in invincibility on moves in this game, and the lack of Kasumi Todoh, might really push me to playing him for his counters... and to show all the Rock worshippers what a REAL "Howard" plays like, heh heh.
freeofgreed
Member
Where is this from?
Rising_Hei
Member
I'm loving how the game is shaping to be. Everything, even the visuals.
The only problem is that when there are close ups you notice how ugly the game is, and how generic the characters look like with this 3D. But you don't play the game with that camera, so... it really looks like the neogeo games when we're actually playing.
The only problem is that when there are close ups you notice how ugly the game is, and how generic the characters look like with this 3D. But you don't play the game with that camera, so... it really looks like the neogeo games when we're actually playing.