It seems like you're invincible during flowmotion in this game, too. You can just dash into a wall and beat stuff without taking damage - at least that's what I've been doing so far.
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Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance |OT| Sora is Everyone in Every Dimension
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It seems like you're invincible during flowmotion in this game, too. You can just dash into a wall and beat stuff without taking damage - at least that's what I've been doing so far.
I miss the disney infused gameplay mechanics that the other games had like summons in the main games and the amazing d-links in BBS.
And the ability acquisition system is pretty stupid that most of the abilities are based off the spirits in your party and when you want to create the same spirit but at a better rank you have to get all the abilities of that spirit all over again. Since I hate doing counter productive things like that I just use the three AR card S-rank spirits until I am able to create S rank versions of the other spirits.
And the ability acquisition system is pretty stupid that most of the abilities are based off the spirits in your party and when you want to create the same spirit but at a better rank you have to get all the abilities of that spirit all over again. Since I hate doing counter productive things like that I just use the three AR card S-rank spirits until I am able to create S rank versions of the other spirits.
Just played an hour right now. The only thing that's sticking out is the flowmotion. Seems kinda bland and makes fights a whole lot easier. It's impossible to get hit while doing this.
Not sure how it stacks up against bosses, so I'll probably find it in a few more hours of gameplay.
Not sure how it stacks up against bosses, so I'll probably find it in a few more hours of gameplay.
I'm finally gonna pick the game up tomorrow, so hopefully I'll stop pestering you people with my questions by then.
Does this sound right? You make a dream eater, level it up until you obtain it's permanent abilities, and start over with a new one to get more abilities? That's how getting abilities works in this game?
Also, do you get one permanent ability per dream eater, or are there more sometimes?
Does this sound right? You make a dream eater, level it up until you obtain it's permanent abilities, and start over with a new one to get more abilities? That's how getting abilities works in this game?
Also, do you get one permanent ability per dream eater, or are there more sometimes?
This seems like a very serious design issue, at least from what I've played. The game without Flowmotion seems designed a lot like BbS, where your attacks and commands can all be interrupted, and enemies have patterns and openings to be attacked. If you try to button mash normally, you will probably die fast, and there's real challenge. But then when you throw in Flowmotion, everything no longer makes sense.
The Flowmotion programming seems to completely ignore damage and make all the Flowmotion animations invincible frames. This kinda breaks the gameplay entirely, since there is little reason to use anything else for most of the game, especially when you're in tight corners and the camera is blocking your view. The Flowmotion attacks also seem to automatically lock-on to the nearest enemy, making it even more pointless to try something more "skillful" so to speak.
Really, really strange game design all round. What happened to the BbS I loved?
You get abilities from Dream eaters from their ability board where you spend link points you get from mini games you play with or playing with your dream eater. And there are special locks on the boards that are different from each type of dream eater that you unlock by doing certain things (like leveling up your dream eater to a certain level, linking with them a certain amount of times, ect.)
There are party abilities from dream eaters that are only active when you have that dream eater in your party. Then there are abilities that are active just by having that dream eater in your collection these much less frequent. And when your dream eater either dies (and gives you materials) or you dismiss them and then create a new you you have to start out from scratch on the ability board. (though commands you get from the dream eaters are permanent)
Seven Force
Banned
You can definitely take damage during Flowmotion. I've gotten killed multiple times in the final world when trying to use it to retreat to safety.
It really doesn't seem that way. I just fought the boss in the Hunchback world and
I was able to go right through his spinny chain attack while in flowmotion. I'd take damage after I attacked and his attack was still going, though, so I had to re-initiate it as quickly as I could.
You can get hit during Flowmotion movement, but can you get hit during a Flowmotion attack? Because that's what I'm talking about. It's usually a long-ish attack animation that hits the area around the attack, and you can't get hit at all during that process.
Wait, it's possible for a Dream Eater to die? Also, what's the number next to the drop gauge mean. I'm up to The Grid, and I still have no idea.
Also, how do you know the difference between an ability that will stay with you permanently and one that will leave when your dream eater isn't in your party? eg. HP up etc
Also, how do you know the difference between an ability that will stay with you permanently and one that will leave when your dream eater isn't in your party? eg. HP up etc
Yep once your dream eater runs out of HP you have to revive it or else it will die and give you materials.
I heard people getting the special AR card Dream Eaters, letting them die, getting the materials, then summoning them again, rinse and repeat.
Seven Force
Banned
I've definitely taken damage during the Shock Dive and Kick Dive Flowmotion attacks. Not sure about the other ones.
Fuck, they die? Like just from passing out in gameplay? Or just from neglect? How does that work?
EDIT: I'm too slow. That's really annoying, though.
mugurumakensei
Member
What level are you playing at? I've definitely died during a flowmotion attack more than once.
Standard.
They die if you dont revive them in time after they run out of HP. But you get certain materials so this could be used to get certain materials easily.
mugurumakensei
Member
Ah, perhaps it's pride mode only cause that's what I chose.
InsaneZero
Member
It's definitely possible. Found it out the hard way when I attempted to go to Prankster's Paradise straight from Traverse Town on Proud. Turns out when you do scratch damage to the monsters, the monsters will laugh at your Flowmotion and punch you right in the face.
I'm noticing it on Pride as well.
Also random question: Do I just use the cards in the Spirits menu with camera on to get the cards to work?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Yeah, you can definitely take damage during flowmotion attacks. I've gotten killed by bosses while I was in the midst of a flowmotion attack. As I get further in the game, I find enemies dealing me damage while in flowmotion more frequently.
Seven Force
Banned
How far in are you? It gets progressively riskier to use the farther into the game you get, especially on Proud Mode.
Well, that's good to know, but right now it feels like a broken system. I'm really early in the game, those are just my general impressions in the first world.
mugurumakensei
Member
Ah first world, yea... It was easy to spam til I got to the boss. He's the first one I couldn't own with flowmotion. I switched to long range and spirit linking with the bosses.
They go a bit into the design philosophy of Flowmotion in an Iwata Asks on the game. Was an interesting read for sure.
Seven Force
Banned
Yeah, it's pretty broken for the first one or two worlds. I agree that it could use some tweaking, though.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Yeah, that's definitely true as far as the first world goes. In the second world I had the boss kill me in flowmotion attacks numerous times, and in the third world I'm seeing regular enemies hurting me while in flowmotion. So it definitely seems to get progressively less broken over time.
Seven Force
Banned
I think you can disable all of the Flowmotion stuff aside from the wall jumping from the Command Menu, too.
Wolf Akela
Member
Yeah, disable Flow Motion. Enjoy taking 10 minutes to get through each hollow area.
nintendoman58
Member
Flowmotion to me is only useful depending on the kind of enemy you're fighting. Sora's Grid boss I found myself using flowmotion less while Riku's Prankster Paradise boss I found myself spamming it just to keep up with the damn thing. I'm also playing on Proud, and I gotta say, I like the challenge it's giving me.
Can definitely get killed during some flowmotion attacks. That wall kick one though I don't think you can. That one is especially useful when the camera spazzes out and you can't see the enemy since it auto locks on. It's why I've used it 999+ times according to end game stats.
Mattakuevan
Member
So, I've played the game for about 7 hours and I really don't think I like it at all.
I loved KH1, Mostly liked KH2, and think BBS is the best in the series.
This is... just kinda bad.
I don't really know how to put it in words really, but I am amazingly bored. Everything seems like I should like it but I have almost no motivation to keep playing.
It seems like others are also feeling this. It's just so odd because it seems just like the other games and it is relatively high quality.
It kind of feels... sterile? I guess.
Edit: I'm going to keep playing for now. If I still don't give a shit at 10 hours I'll probably just sell it.
I loved KH1, Mostly liked KH2, and think BBS is the best in the series.
This is... just kinda bad.
I don't really know how to put it in words really, but I am amazingly bored. Everything seems like I should like it but I have almost no motivation to keep playing.
It seems like others are also feeling this. It's just so odd because it seems just like the other games and it is relatively high quality.
It kind of feels... sterile? I guess.
Edit: I'm going to keep playing for now. If I still don't give a shit at 10 hours I'll probably just sell it.
Why on earth would you play a Kingdom Hearts game on anything but the hardest difficulty level? Flowmotion might be a key to victory on sub-Proud Mode difficulty levels, but it sure as hell isn't on Proud and I guess it will be even less so on Critical.
I play all games on the normal difficulty mode my first time through, because they received the most balance and playtesting.
Sorry I'm not as cool as you.
toddhunter
Member
I find the kh games too frustrating on high difficulty. The camera for instance is always fucked up except for kh2 so why make it hard for yourself? Especially when the gameplay is mostly repitition.
Normal may be easy, but for me it is also actually fun.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
3D is definitely way more challenging than Birth by Sleep was. I thought Birth by Sleep was way too easy (aside from a handful of boss fights), and I'm finding 3D is really challenging me on Proud. It's definitely a big step up in that department.
Seven Force
Banned
3D on the hardest difficulty is pretty challenging, but it exposes how annoying some of the enemy design is, and the frame rate drops actually seem to hinder things at times. (The
being the biggest offender.)
Traverse Town boss rush during Sora's 2nd visit there
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I usually find most Kingdom Hearts music to be pretty "meh"...really, outside of Simple and Clean, Sanctuary, Traverse Town, Hand-In-Hand, and Dearly Beloved, most of the music, especially the Disney Worlds, are usually pretty dull...
But this game has been great! The battle music in Pinnochio's World, Sora's version, is so upbeat and happy, especially when "When You Wish Upon a Star" pops up, and I agree with what someone said earlier, the Musketeer world has a great battle.
And of course the Gargoyle Boss music. Whoa. No wonder they used it in commercials.
But this game has been great! The battle music in Pinnochio's World, Sora's version, is so upbeat and happy, especially when "When You Wish Upon a Star" pops up, and I agree with what someone said earlier, the Musketeer world has a great battle.
And of course the Gargoyle Boss music. Whoa. No wonder they used it in commercials.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
The Grid is just so fun to run around and explore. I can't remember the last time a Kingdom Hearts game actually had me feeling like I was exploring an area as opposed to just walking from one small area to the next as the story demanded it. I really love how much bigger everything is here (now would it hurt for the next game to have some NPCs?).
And those random guards pack a bit of a punch. Especially compared to the other regular enemies to this point.
Overall, I love The Grid. I think they've done a great job realizing it, as an area that's both unique as well as a lot of fun to explore. Although, I don't really think this world's reality shifting is as cool as the first two were.
And those random guards pack a bit of a punch. Especially compared to the other regular enemies to this point.
Overall, I love The Grid. I think they've done a great job realizing it, as an area that's both unique as well as a lot of fun to explore. Although, I don't really think this world's reality shifting is as cool as the first two were.
SoulUnison
Banned
Hey, remember when enemies could be staggered or blocked, and Super Armor was only for bosses and special occasions?
Remember when enemies had patterns and weaknesses and didn't just pinball and teleport around wildly, battering you with relentless attacks from every blind spot?
Remember when Sora and Riku didn't control like they're made of tissue paper, and Aerial Recovery was actually worth a damn?
Specifically, what they hell is up with the boss of Fantasia on Sora's side? It's got like 8 health bars. It's fought in an arena that is next to impossible to traverse and that drives the camera crazy. It's entire strategy is to constantly play teleport keep-away while summoning barrages of projectiles that have unreasonably good tracking, can't be interrupted, and are *unblockable*.
I feel like I've completely stopped having fun with this game.
Remember when enemies had patterns and weaknesses and didn't just pinball and teleport around wildly, battering you with relentless attacks from every blind spot?
Remember when Sora and Riku didn't control like they're made of tissue paper, and Aerial Recovery was actually worth a damn?
Specifically, what they hell is up with the boss of Fantasia on Sora's side? It's got like 8 health bars. It's fought in an arena that is next to impossible to traverse and that drives the camera crazy. It's entire strategy is to constantly play teleport keep-away while summoning barrages of projectiles that have unreasonably good tracking, can't be interrupted, and are *unblockable*.
I feel like I've completely stopped having fun with this game.
SpaceBridge
Member
Aw man, are the TWEWY characters as awesome and funny and smartly written in their own game as they seem to be in KH3D?
sorijealut
Member
So desperately need a TWEWY... I'd do away with any/all other RPGs for a year if I could play it.
SoulUnison
Banned
I just can't do it. I'm 11 level over the Battle Level for the final world, and it's still just a clusterfuck.
I'm starting over on Standard difficulty. I'll deal with Critical when I unlock it.
I'm starting over on Standard difficulty. I'll deal with Critical when I unlock it.