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[Napalm_Frank]

So, recently I've been trying to find well-known PS3 games that I have missed and, among other titles, I've just bought both HD remixes off Amazon, mainly because I'm curious about the Disney stuff.
Problem is I'm totally unfamiliar with this series and Jrpgs in general (I think Anachronox is the only one I've ever played), I hope this is the right place to ask a few questions:
- First of all, how are the remasters compared to the PS2 originals?
- Should I play all the series or just focus on the two "main" entries?
- Are these games even good? How do they compare to other JRPGs?
- Any advice for a novice of this genre?
Thanks

1. Overall better with more content. Graphically this is one of the best remasters on PS3 and they redid the the soundtracks for 1+2.

2. This is hard to say at this point. I'd suggest trying out KH1 if you even like the series. If you are into the series after that you might want to try out Chain of Memories but it's very different and many can't stand it. If you want to know more about the plot you can always just watch the cutscenes online or if you really like the main game style, Disney cameos ect. and have mindless fun you can jump straight to KH2 (and BBS after that which is a ''main entry'' by pretty much every meter).

3. That's a very hard question to answer, you have to form your own opinion. Like personally I adore how KH1 plays but there are tons of people who think it's very clunky early PS2 era game and in some cases they are absolutely right. But at the same time it is a game where Square really took risks to make a game like no other mixing elements from multiple game styles.

If you look it as an pure action (rpg) game KH2 is by far the better game but KH1 has many elements that are lost in the sequel like platforming (some people hate this), secrets and overall a much more interesting world where you can discover new little secrets and things every time you play. Like if I had to really strech it I would say KH1 is the ''Zelda'' of the series while KH2 is the ''Devil May Cry''.

It's hard to compare it to other JRPGs. It's totally a thing of it's own.

4. It's pretty straight foreward game, you can't really screw yourself over. I suggest playing on Standard (Final Mix) difficulty for the first playtrough. Don't worry too much if you get a little lost in some of the worlds (Tarzan), you ain't alone.

 

[Galileo]

All right, thanks for the replies people, I'm really looking forward to playing KH1

 

[Son Of D]

Just tried fighting (secret postgame boss spoilers for BBS)

Spoiler

No Heart

with Aqua. I died but that battle was pretty intense and fast. Also the framerate just dies during the first part of the battle where he summons all the keyblade copies at you, I mean yikes.

 

[Falk]

Yeah, that and the last boss of the Secret Episode both tank the framerate. I smell unoptimized translucency.

 

[EphemeralDream]

I started playing Birth by Sleep on II.5 remix.

Is it normal for the game to show "configuring trophy data" before I choose a game and then again "configuring trophy data" when I actually start Birth by Sleep?

Just want to make sure my PS3 isn't bugging out.

 

[Cedric]

Just reached the last room of the Cavern of Remembrance... This thing is so fun, the level design is leagues ahead of anything else in the game. I really hope KH3 spices up it's world's using the cavern as an inspiration, although I highly doubt it since BBS and DDD have continued the classic empty field trend.

 

[corn_fest]

Just reached the last room of the Cavern of Remembrance... This thing is so fun, the level design is leagues ahead of anything else in the game. I really hope KH3 spices up it's world's using the cavern as an inspiration, although I highly doubt it since BBS and DDD have continued the classic empty field trend.

Ehhh... there's a lot of verticality to most of BBS/DDD's environments, even if they're still barren encounterboxes.

As long as they continue in that direction with KH3, I'll be happy.

 

[Order]

Finally beat

Spoiler

Data Luxord

I never want to hear "Do you know the rules" again

 

[Cedric]

Ehhh... there's a lot of verticality to most of BBS/DDD's environments, even if they're still barren encounterboxes.

As long as they continue in that direction with KH3, I'll be happy.

Not sure what you mean by verticality, but the thing I like about the cavern is that you actually have to use various abilities to move from point A to point B. Areas are connected in a variety of ways, and the environment actually interacts with you (turning the wheels, conveyer belts, blocks that push you away, moving platforms etc). There are also plenty of treasures you can't access on your first way through the cavern. I think maybe there was one world in BBS with a lot of platforming, the Disney Town one, but it's been so long since I've played. Going to start a playthrough as soon as I'm done with 2.

 

[Andamo]

Does anyone have any suggestions for Mushroom XIII No. 8?

I've been using Master Form, Fatal Crest (for Berserk Charge), and then getting rid of my MP so I can do an endless combo.

The highest I can get is 83, and I was only able to accomplish that once. Then it shoots away from me and I can't get to it again. It falls faster than I do in Master Form so I can't land and hit it as it falls.

I tried using Wisdom Form and Fatal Crest. When I start the battle, I use Thundaga until I run out of MP and then I use my endless keyblade shot attack until my MP returns and I can use Thundaga again and I cycle through them. I got to 84 once, but I can't get anywhere near that number again.

 

[WeaponKnight]

I tried using Wisdom Form and Fatal Crest. When I start the battle, I use Thundaga until I run out of MP and then I use my endless keyblade shot attack until my MP returns and I can use Thundaga again and I cycle through them. I got to 84 once, but I can't get anywhere near that number again.

I got 99 hits using Wisdom Form and Fatal Crest, after hours of suffering with Master Form. Make sure you keep a bit of distance but not much.

 

[Seda]

Using the Wisdom form technique I got it on my second try.

 

[Chuy]

Does anybody know of any place that i can use to grind to level-up post battle of 1000 heartless? I just barely hit level 31 and getting wrecked by encounters and absolutely destroyed by Xaldin at the moment.

 

[badcrumble]

Does anybody know of any place that i can use to grind to level-up post battle of 1000 heartless? I just barely hit level 31 and getting wrecked by encounters and absolutely destroyed by Xaldin at the moment.

Rather than just leveling up, it's not a terrible idea to try to hit up different worlds if one in particular is giving you a ton of trouble at the moment.

As far as Xaldin is concerned, just stay away from him and all you'll need to do is successfully dodge one move at a time. He's pretty simple but needs to be approached much, much less aggressively than just about any other enemy in the game. And I caution you that just leveling up won't necessarily make a huge difference if you don't change tactics.

But if you do want to grind, I strongly suggest just doing so at Hollow Bastion. Enemies are tougher now but the Hollow Bastion defense system will launch enemies for you and generally make your job a lot easier, and Hollow Bastion spawns tons of enemies for you.

 

[Chuy]

Rather than just leveling up, it's not a terrible idea to try to hit up different worlds if one in particular is giving you a ton of trouble at the moment.

As far as Xaldin is concerned, just stay away from him and all you'll need to do is successfully dodge one move at a time. He's pretty simple but needs to be approached much, much less aggressively than just about any other enemy in the game. And I caution you that just leveling up won't necessarily make a huge difference if you don't change tactics.

But if you do want to grind, I strongly suggest just doing so at Hollow Bastion. Enemies are tougher now but the Hollow Bastion defense system will launch enemies for you and generally make your job a lot easier, and Hollow Bastion spawns tons of enemies for you.

Well i had tried all the various worlds and was repeatedly getting game overs until i managed to progress only beast`s castle which why i stuck to there.

With the Xaldin battle my main thing was most of the attacks were either putting me in critical health or a straight up OHKO. I did manage to beat him though once i figured out his pattern and countered then.

Also thanks for the tips though i do appreciate it.

 

[badcrumble]

Well i had tried all the various worlds and was repeatedly getting game overs until i managed to progress only beast`s castle which why i stuck to there.

With the Xaldin battle my main thing was most of the attacks were either putting me in critical health or a straight up OHKO. I did manage to beat him though once i figured out his pattern and countered then.

Also thanks for the tips though i do appreciate it.

Congrats on beating Xaldin - he's basically the big difficulty spike/gate for a lot of the game. If you can beat him, you ought to be able to take on the rest of the worlds pretty successfully in order of battle level without too many problems.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Sorry for the bump, but I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around the new secret ending in coded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F-M9Gafpdk

1. Whats going on here?

2. When does this take place?

3. Is that a young xehanort? Huh? Where did he come from?

4. Is Axel (Lea) and Saix (Isa) nobodies, but the rest aren't?

5. What are they choosing for exactly?

Wtf is going on....

edit: I have not played 3D yet. So If this is explained in 3D, then disregard this entire post!! Thanks guys.

 

[xfactor99]

Sorry for the bump, but I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around the new secret ending in coded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F-M9Gafpdk

1. Whats going on here?

2. When does this take place?

3. Is that a young xehanort? Huh? Where did he come from?

4. Is Axel (Lea) and Saix (Isa) nobodies, but the rest aren't?

5. What are they choosing for exactly?

Wtf is going on....

edit: I have not played 3D yet. So If this is explained in 3D, then disregard this entire post!! Thanks guys.

The scene will make 95% more sense if you play 3D. Although there's still some room for speculation, it's really hard to talk about the scene if you don't know what went on in 3D.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

The scene will make 95% more sense if you play 3D. Although there's still some room for speculation, it's really hard to talk about the scene if you don't know what went on in 3D.

Ok. Thanks. Literally just finished 2.5, so I thought by including this scene, I was supposed to get it or something.

I felt like a moron. I spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out wtf was going on. I kept thinking back to kingdom hearts 2 and trying to figure out where this pieced in, lol.

Thanks.

 

[Falk]

As a heads up, after playing DDD you're still going to be just about as confused about what's going on.

Just to keep expectations in check.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

As a heads up, after playing DDD you're still going to be just about as confused about what's going on.

Just to keep expectations in check.

Honestly, everything up to 3D I get. I understand who everyone is, how they came into being, etc etc. I would say I understand about 95% of the story so far.

Only problem are the inconsistencies that Nomura likes to fuck around with. If you read those interviews he does, they are hilarious. People ask him plot hole questions, and he just makes an answer on the spot about having a strong heart, so that explains any question.

Anyways, I feel good about going into 3D.

How is 3D anyways?

Just finished bbs, and didn't super love it. It felt like a handheld game, which I know it is. But there didn't seem to be a lot of worlds, and they were all kinda generic. Snow white, Cinderella, and sleeping beauty all just blended for me. Half the time I forgot where I was.

Also, having to restart my skills constantly just got really infuriating. By the time I got to the third character, I honestly didn't give a fuck anymore about playing it. I "finished" it, but not really. Need that last xehanort report, so mehhh. Just watched the ending online.

 

[Falk]

It's a decent game, with some questionable systems but a solid experience overall.

My biggest hang-up is getting cancer from trying to play an action game on the 3DS.

 

[TurboLibre]

So here's a weird question, how the heck do you play defensively in this game? My guard never seems to work and the dodges are crappy at best. Because I'm fighting an optional boss with a hit counter above my head, and nothing seems to work. Reflect freezes you and works for maybe a second, and the guard doesn't seem to work in the air so I'm constantly getting juggled when the enemy starts teleporting. Throw in how floaty Sora is, it's making it really hard to react to any of their attacks.

Any tips? Because I've had this issue all game and even though I've played though it maybe three times before, this is the first time I've had an issue with it.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

So here's a weird question, how the heck do you play defensively in this game? My guard never seems to work and the dodges are crappy at best. Because I'm fighting an optional boss with a hit counter above my head, and nothing seems to work. Reflect freezes you and works for maybe a second, and the guard doesn't seem to work in the air so I'm constantly getting juggled when the enemy starts teleporting. Throw in how floaty Sora is, it's making it really hard to react to any of their attacks.

Any tips? Because I've had this issue all game and even though I've played though it maybe three times before, this is the first time I've had an issue with it.

Block does work on all his normal scythe attacks on the ground. You can dodge in the air by using Aerial Dodge (that you get from leveling up Master Form) or casting reflect. If you get hit you can dodge the next attack in the air by using Aerial Recovery.

Blocking is in fact the key move for that bossfight. He will get stunned after successful block of his basic combo and allows you to use reaction commands.

Also if you want you can combo the Reflect spell. Combo Plus/Air Combo Plus abilities allow you to string more but really block is the primary defensive move to use in that fight. However spamming reflect is very good way to deal with his Ultimate moves finisher later in the fight.

Honestly never try to attack until after a successful block.

 

[TurboLibre]

Block does work on all his normal scythe attacks on the ground. You can dodge in the air by using Aerial Dodge (that you get from leveling up Master Form) or casting reflect. If you get hit you can dodge the next attack in the air by using Aerial Recovery.

Blocking is in fact the key move for that bossfight. He will get stunned after successful block of his basic combo and allows you to use reaction commands.

I'm hitting guard constantly though, and it only works a fraction of the time. I feel like there's a delay once I hit the button because guarding right when I'm hit sure isn't working. I'm even testing it at the start of the fight, and hitting square the instant the boss starts still manages to juggle me.

Edit: Managed to get decently into the fight and was somehow one hit KO'd when these dark disks appeared. I think I'm gonna avoid these bosses. They've all be straight up garbage.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I'm hitting guard constantly though, and it only works a fraction of the time. I feel like there's a delay once I hit the button because guarding right when I'm hit sure isn't working. I'm even testing it at the start of the fight, and hitting square the instant the boss starts still manages to juggle me.

You need to guard lil before the enemy attack hits. The guard status does stay a little while so you don't have to perfectly time it. After the first successful guard you can spam it to continue any other followup attacks of the same combo.

 

[KillerDark]

I finally beat

Spoiler

Lingering Will

on Critical after fighting it for 6-8 hours total. That was intense and incredibly satisfying. I got it to 1 hp two attempts before I beat it but just couldn't land a finisher and then got hit and my attacks were locked. Managed to survive 3 DM's and break that but then messed up on the next one haha. Such a fun (after you start learning how to deal with the various moves at least) and crazy fight.

Just have to do EX missions, some Olympus Coliseum stuff and the data fights and I will have the plat!

 

[Andrefpvs]

Guys, Birth by Sleep: trying to get 100% reports on Critical -- bad idea?

 

[Seda]

Guys, Birth by Sleep: trying to get 100% reports on Critical -- bad idea?

In terms of difficulty or time?

Speaking difficulty, the trickiest thing to complete is Mysterious Figure as Terra, because his slide sucks as a dodge. I had to abuse the jellyfish enemies at Neverland a bit to boost him up some.

More annoyingly it's a bit of a timesink, Mirage Arena (including command board) especially.

 

[Andrefpvs]

In terms of difficulty or time?

Speaking difficulty, the trickiest thing to complete is Mysterious Figure as Terra, because his slide sucks as a dodge. I had to abuse the jellyfish enemies at Neverland a bit to boost him up some.

More annoyingly it's a bit of a timesink, Mirage Arena (including command board) especially.

I guess both, lol. Thanks for answering!

I guess I'll do Proud 100% and then a Skip-Everything Critical run.

 

[Psxphile]

100% is actually pretty doable on Critical.

Y'know, barring any weird trophy-popping glitches.

 

[Megatron]

This is $20 on amazon and best buy. $15.99 with gcu. That's the price I was waiting for.

 

[Andrefpvs]

Beat BbS with all characters, completed the secret episode, completed reports with Aqua.

Let's load Ventus's save file... -- Radiant Garden battle level: 6.

Oh well, that sucks. But I beat all the optional bosses with Aqua at level 48, so it's not like I'll need to grind with Ventus.

Now Terra -- that guy is going to need some levels. Let me load his save file...

Spoiler

Radiant Garden battle level: 6.

...

 

[Seda]

Beat BbS with all characters, completed the secret episode, completed reports with Aqua.

Let's load Ventus's save file... -- Radiant Garden battle level: 6.

Oh well, that sucks. But I beat all the optional bosses with Aqua at level 48, so it's not like I'll need to grind with Ventus.

Now Terra -- that guy is going to need some levels. Let me load his save file...

Spoiler

Radiant Garden battle level: 6.

...

Kill the blob enemy thing in Neverland with Mega Flares.

 

[Andrefpvs]

Kill the blob enemy thing in Neverland with Mega Flares.

Yeah, I guess that's the best option (._.)

What level were you with Terra when you beat the MF?

 

[Seda]

Yeah, I guess that's the best option (._.)

What level were you with Terra when you beat the MF?

I think I went to 80, on Critical. That took a long time (was watching something while I was leveling him) and was probably more than I needed.

Terra sux tho

 

[Falk]

I went all the way to 99 because I mistakenly thought there was a trophy for that.

 

[Seda]

I went all the way to 99 because I mistakenly thought there was a trophy for that.





:|

fixed

 

[SoraanTribal]

So what are the chances this is gonna come to the PS4 soon-ish? I have owned it for the PS3 for several months now, but been busy with other games. I was thinking about playing them both in the summer, but with FFX HD coming to PS4.. and KH3 obviously on the way later on the PS4, it seems likely this will be ported over, too eh?

 

[DKHF]

So what are the chances this is gonna come to the PS4 soon-ish? I have owned it for the PS3 for several months now, but been busy with other games. I was thinking about playing them both in the summer, but with FFX HD coming to PS4.. and KH3 obviously on the way later on the PS4, it seems likely this will be ported over, too eh?

I think a collection with both 1.5 and 2.5 for PS4 will be announced during SE's E3 conference.

And/or they will announce a Dream Drop Distance port for PS4 which could also be included in that collection to get people to double dip on 1.5 and 2.5.

 

[SoraanTribal]

I think a collection with both 1.5 and 2.5 for PS4 will be announced during SE's E3 conference.

And/or they will announce a Dream Drop Distance port for PS4 which could also be included in that collection to get people to double dip on 1.5 and 2.5.

Yeah, I was thinking about waiting until at least E3 before starting anything just in case they do something like that.

 

[GetDigitized]

I think a collection with both 1.5 and 2.5 for PS4 will be announced during SE's E3 conference.

And/or they will announce a Dream Drop Distance port for PS4 which could also be included in that collection to get people to double dip on 1.5 and 2.5.

That'd be incredibly scummy of them.

 

[Haeralis The BRave]

I don't know if its worthwhile waiting for a PS4 version, personally. The ports are just so good; outside of the Dualshock 4 I can't see them cranking up the graphics / framerate more than they already did for the PS3 version.

 

[Vashetti]

I don't know if its worthwhile waiting for a PS4 version, personally. The ports are just so good; outside of the Dualshock 4 I can't see them cranking up the graphics / framerate more than they already did for the PS3 version.

KH1.5 was only 810p, so there is the bump to 1080p there that would be beneficial. They could probably go to 60fps too, with more AA.

I've heard BBS is prone to framerate drops more-so than 2.5, which could be ironed out too.

 

[Falk]

Just add option for original soundtrack and call it a day

Spoiler

rofl

 

[GetDigitized]

Just add option for original soundtrack and call it a day

Spoiler

rofl

You forgot the special exclusive digital pre order b̶l̶i̶t̶z̶b̶a̶l̶l̶ gummy theme.

Although, remote playing kingdom hearts would be tempting...

 

[Falk]

Why would you want to play KH on portables? I thought we -just- escaped that fate.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

KH2 is nearly perfect, I'd wish for 60fps but I don't think they'd do it.

I'd just ask for better loading times, a Retry boss button, and fixing the final boss reaction command they fucked up.

 

[GetDigitized]

Why would you want to play KH on portables? I thought we -just- escaped that fate.

So i can play when I'm away from home/my console. It's obviously better to play it on a TV, but time constraints ~_~.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Limit Form Genie the PS4 remaster we deserve ((