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Kingdom Hearts Unchained |OT| - It's not an X - [UP] Worldwide Release
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Well, today has been a good day. I've been farming almost non-stop and I've done the following things:
Evolved to 6* and guilted the Card Guards.
Evolved to 6* and guilted Young Herc (I had three 4* Hercs waiting).
Evolved to 6* and guilted Payne (I had three 4* Paynes).
Reguilted my Queen to 15%.
Finished guilting my Wakka (which had 2 dots before).
The Card Guards are quite good at 6*, although you need to sacrifice HP to use them.
Evolved to 6* and guilted the Card Guards.
Evolved to 6* and guilted Young Herc (I had three 4* Hercs waiting).
Evolved to 6* and guilted Payne (I had three 4* Paynes).
Reguilted my Queen to 15%.
Finished guilting my Wakka (which had 2 dots before).
The Card Guards are quite good at 6*, although you need to sacrifice HP to use them.
What's your party name? i got multiple invites and i don't know which one is it =p
Key Warriors
Japanmanx3
Member
So is there a dispel medal? Thought there was but maybe I'm either assuming out overlooking it...
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Alice has a ST dispel for 2 gauges. Belle has AoE dispel for 3 gauges (Do we have heron Global yet?).
Alice removes all the (de)buffs from an enemy.
Poltergust
Member
No, I don't think we have Belle yet.
She may come with the next set of medals since we're supposed to be going to Beast's Castle now.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Just gotta wait it out. Your medals will get better over time with pulls but the difficulty of Adamantite Quests stay the same.
Yeah, it's a gradual progress. You'll get jewels to pull new medals with, which will either be more powerful than the ones you have and thus help you get closer to your goal or they'll be duplicates that will eventually let you guilt your strongest medals. You'll get Cids that will help you put more higher-level medals at once. You'll get Chips that will help you strengthen the medals you do have. You'll level up, get more cost and be able to equip higher-* medals (if you aren't already at 180 cost). You'll get Attack Boost I & II medals that will be noticeable increases in attack strength. So you'll gradually get closer to being able to do these quests.
At first I couldn't even finish the, I think, Starlight Adamantine quest #2. Then a couple of weeks later I could finish it but it was rough and all battles took 2 or 3 turns. Now a month or so later I can finish 95% of it in one turn and only the last battle against the Fat Bandit heartless (& friends) is undoable for me (Fat Bandit is left with half a health bar). Once I get some more Chips into BC Mickey in the next month or so (once Colosseum restarts in September), I think that should be manageable as well, without any more money spent.
And while I can't say I haven't spent any money on this, I haven't had to mindlessly spend hundreds of euros on it either to get to the point where I'm at. So far I've spent 45€ on the game in the ~4 months I've played it, which isn't all that unreasonable for this kind of quasi-MMO-ish online game with more or less constant stream of new content.
If you're unwilling to support the game at all, then you've just got to accept that it'll take you longer to get to the point of being able to do some of these optional quests at good enough efficiency.
At first I couldn't even finish the, I think, Starlight Adamantine quest #2. Then a couple of weeks later I could finish it but it was rough and all battles took 2 or 3 turns. Now a month or so later I can finish 95% of it in one turn and only the last battle against the Fat Bandit heartless (& friends) is undoable for me (Fat Bandit is left with half a health bar). Once I get some more Chips into BC Mickey in the next month or so (once Colosseum restarts in September), I think that should be manageable as well, without any more money spent.
And while I can't say I haven't spent any money on this, I haven't had to mindlessly spend hundreds of euros on it either to get to the point where I'm at. So far I've spent 45€ on the game in the ~4 months I've played it, which isn't all that unreasonable for this kind of quasi-MMO-ish online game with more or less constant stream of new content.
If you're unwilling to support the game at all, then you've just got to accept that it'll take you longer to get to the point of being able to do some of these optional quests at good enough efficiency.
This is the one reason why I am willing to spent money. I only put 15 in once, ebcause of the 0 AP event this week, but I already spent so much time with this game in the last 1 1/2 months or how long it's been out in EU now and I did have fun and still do have fun, that I really would like to support the developers.
Also, meh, while I managed to guilt Riku, Selphie and Paine now, Riku got a decent +24%, but Selphier only has 10% and Paine 12%. >_>
I've taken an MMO-mentality with this game. I'm ready to spend that 15 once every month as a kind of monthly subscription fee and mostly intend to use those jewels for something certain (the avatar boards with Illustr. Yuffie & Cid), don't want to waste them on some completely random pulls that might give me 90% farmable medals... Might use them occasionally for pulls that give something certain like the recent BC Mickey thing, but otherwise these 600, 1500 & 3000 jewel pulls will be mostly done with daily, quest & other free jewels.Sölf;213945582 said:
Personally, this week is the moment where I was waiting to spend money to get a weekly unlock, since the 0 AP event was the perfect moment to stockpile a lot of money and level up and evolve everything. However, after all the whale hunting that has been going on lately, I've refused to do it no matter how much I want it..
I won't spend a dime here unless I see a change in the way the approach this game monetization.
As soon as I failed it the first time, I went back to this setup (because of your posts waaaaaayyy back in the thread) and cleared the 200 lux easily.
Schadenfreude
Member
So someone tell me again why it's better to have Nick and Judy separate medals and not guilted?
alittlelove
Neo Member
There's an argument for keeping several so you could buff multiple times, and you'd never be relying on this medal for damage output so it doesn't matter if it's guilted or not.
Personally J&N costs too much gauge to justify using it over regular buff medals, not to mention RAX - don't really need more than one of them.
Schadenfreude
Member
If only I had one of RAX ;____; Thanks for the info, yo.
Avallon
Member
Is anyone here participating in the no-pull-a-thon being promoted on reddit?
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHea...ux_psa_p2p_players_please_do_not_pull_friday/
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHea...ux_psa_p2p_players_please_do_not_pull_friday/
It's pretty much only if you don't have 3 medals that boost strength by 1 tier. Defense usually doesn't matter because you're trying to 1 turn things if you're looking to boost strength by that much
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Damn, Global players are more bitchy than Dokkan players. You guys need to go through the hardships like JP.
I think it's high time to complain about the game's sorry state in many departments (greedy, non rewarding for either whales or F2P and the farmable medals fiasco).
I was thinking that we should start something on twitter but the "Do not pull" movement could work.
From the reddit thread.
I was thinking that we should start something on twitter but the "Do not pull" movement could work.
From the reddit thread.
We've just been gifted 900 Jewels for some kind of text typo.
That fact that somebody somewhere had a harder time that us doesn't mean we shouldn't complain
But yeah, Reddit can be a bit toxic sometimes.
The idea about sending messages to Customer Support seems good. I haven't thought that it could be expensive for them to keep answering those kind of messages. I will do it and so should other people.
Damn, Global players are more bitchy than Dokkan players. You guys need to go through the hardships like JP.
That fact that somebody somewhere had a harder time that us doesn't mean we shouldn't complain
But yeah, Reddit can be a bit toxic sometimes.
The idea about sending messages to Customer Support seems good. I haven't thought that it could be expensive for them to keep answering those kind of messages. I will do it and so should other people.
What even prompted this? There's currently no content that can't be completed with just a buffer, healer, a guilted epic, and a friend guilted epic(dude who started this is a whale, so he should have all of that and more). I don't even think anything in the next month will take something close to a guilted prem. With a team of only 9 people and seemingly no community manager, i'm not expecting much to happen. Worth a try though
Lol @ getting 900 free jewels for nothing(text error on a medal), but then getting nothing for something that matters( some chests giving no AP or HP in latest missions)
At the moment, the way I'd personally improve the game is...
-either remove farmables from the pull-pool completely, reduce their likelihood to almost zero or set some hard limit for how many farmables one can get from a single 10 medal pull (i.e. max 2 or 3 are farmables)
-jewels should be far cheaper. I think the realistic "ideal" for both sides could be 5€ for 3000 jewels with maybe the Special quest unlocks still being locked behind a 10 or 15€ tier purchase. I feel that would get a lot more people spending a little amount of money on the game instead of far fewer people spending lots of money while still being plenty profitable for SQEX. That way I could see myself spending 20-25€ per month instead of the 15€. A fairer deal for everyone instead of 99% of profits coming from whales.
-give a little bit more jewels daily for everyone, so maybe 100 x 2, 200 x 2 and 400 x 1. It would still take 15 days for someone to get 3000 jewels, so it isn't all that quick yet not ridiculously long either, which would also give a bit more incentive to keep playing the game if you can get (an extra) 10 or 15 medals every couple of weeks instead of it taking 30 days. Leveling up & evolving medals is often the only thing that people can do daily (once they've exhausted new story missions, gotten as far as they can in the monthly Colisseum etc.), so if it takes too long for people to gather enough jewels to get a good number of new medals, they get bored because of the lack of things to do and will more likely drop the game sooner rather than later.
-don't take any more than 2 weeks between adding new story missions. I notice my interest waning if we go too long without somewhat meaty new content. Grindy raids & exp/evolve medal quests, Coliseum & such can hold one's attention only so long before wanting something new that isn't revolved around repeating the same ever harder content over & over again.
-either remove farmables from the pull-pool completely, reduce their likelihood to almost zero or set some hard limit for how many farmables one can get from a single 10 medal pull (i.e. max 2 or 3 are farmables)
-jewels should be far cheaper. I think the realistic "ideal" for both sides could be 5€ for 3000 jewels with maybe the Special quest unlocks still being locked behind a 10 or 15€ tier purchase. I feel that would get a lot more people spending a little amount of money on the game instead of far fewer people spending lots of money while still being plenty profitable for SQEX. That way I could see myself spending 20-25€ per month instead of the 15€. A fairer deal for everyone instead of 99% of profits coming from whales.
-give a little bit more jewels daily for everyone, so maybe 100 x 2, 200 x 2 and 400 x 1. It would still take 15 days for someone to get 3000 jewels, so it isn't all that quick yet not ridiculously long either, which would also give a bit more incentive to keep playing the game if you can get (an extra) 10 or 15 medals every couple of weeks instead of it taking 30 days. Leveling up & evolving medals is often the only thing that people can do daily (once they've exhausted new story missions, gotten as far as they can in the monthly Colisseum etc.), so if it takes too long for people to gather enough jewels to get a good number of new medals, they get bored because of the lack of things to do and will more likely drop the game sooner rather than later.
-don't take any more than 2 weeks between adding new story missions. I notice my interest waning if we go too long without somewhat meaty new content. Grindy raids & exp/evolve medal quests, Coliseum & such can hold one's attention only so long before wanting something new that isn't revolved around repeating the same ever harder content over & over again.
Hope we get Aerith boards tomorrow.
Farmable should definitely be removed at this point IMO. It makes sense to have them in the very beginning in order to dilute a bit the Gacha but at this point the pool is big enough to give you Premium crap anyway lol.
I agree.
I think most people (leaving whales aside) who want to spend money use the Weekly Unlock. I think that's good enough though.
I think Japan gives 100x2, 200x2 and 300x1. And then they have the permanent Jewel Quest. Which is really awesome, but I would be happy if we could get one of the other.
We still have less medals than Japan. And Japan is an older version. I understand that having over 2000 Jewels a week is going a bit crazy asap. But having around 1200-1500 a week would actually be quite cool.
Have they ever done that? I think that so far they've been getting 25 new quests every 2 weeks quite reliably.
The problem with Grindy Raids, Dalies and Coliseum is the rewards IMO. Those same quests would be exciting if there was cool stuff to grab. Like 3-5 Brooms in a board, a bunch of 6* Chip/Dales/Cids and good Skills. But the rewards usually are quite boring, you don't really feel like you are progressing.
A while ago, I remember I got a Attack Boost II in a Coliseum board. It's been a long time since I got one of those lol. And Cids have been quite scarce lately, or at least that's my feeling.
Farmable should definitely be removed at this point IMO. It makes sense to have them in the very beginning in order to dilute a bit the Gacha but at this point the pool is big enough to give you Premium crap anyway lol.
I agree.
I think most people (leaving whales aside) who want to spend money use the Weekly Unlock. I think that's good enough though.
I think Japan gives 100x2, 200x2 and 300x1. And then they have the permanent Jewel Quest. Which is really awesome, but I would be happy if we could get one of the other.
We still have less medals than Japan. And Japan is an older version. I understand that having over 2000 Jewels a week is going a bit crazy asap. But having around 1200-1500 a week would actually be quite cool.
Have they ever done that? I think that so far they've been getting 25 new quests every 2 weeks quite reliably.
The problem with Grindy Raids, Dalies and Coliseum is the rewards IMO. Those same quests would be exciting if there was cool stuff to grab. Like 3-5 Brooms in a board, a bunch of 6* Chip/Dales/Cids and good Skills. But the rewards usually are quite boring, you don't really feel like you are progressing.
A while ago, I remember I got a Attack Boost II in a Coliseum board. It's been a long time since I got one of those lol. And Cids have been quite scarce lately, or at least that's my feeling.
creid
Member
It may just be me, but I feel like the lower amount of jewels we get is balanced by the fact that premiums don't disappear from the medal pool forever when their banner is over. As for complaints that the game is P2W... is that guy new to gacha? Isn't that the whole basis of gacha games?
Grieves
Member
Worth saving my jewels for tomorrow then?
????
Guessing he's referencing JP version since we (global) don't have Divine Rose nor a +25 Olympia.
Where are you getting the news from though?
Avallon
Member
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHea..._new_mowgli_medals_added_to_na_version_after/
We do have Olympia +25 and Divine Rose is coming soon so he's saving up for it.
Dammit! I was so proud of myself for getting all the key blades up to "max" at 24 with the adam quests and then they go and raise it again. :-(
PixyJunket
Member
I'm actually buying jewels with cash and pulling after reading that.
OceanicAir
Member
Looking at those medals I'm almost assuredly pulling. Thankfully I got those 900 free jewels since I was banking on the 750 from the missions to pull again. Knowing my luck I won't get Pooh, Piglet or Terra and get Owl instead ;(
I am currently on 1510 jewels. I still need the last board, so maybe I spent them on the board first so I don't have to care about that one.
Has anyone managed to get the 6 enemies in the daily? I only tried twice, but since we only get a EXP medal and no Cid or Chip/Dale I can't be bothered with this.
Has anyone managed to get the 6 enemies in the daily? I only tried twice, but since we only get a EXP medal and no Cid or Chip/Dale I can't be bothered with this.
Avallon
Member
Sölf;214129071 said:
I got it on my first try. Apparently I'm very lucky.
Welp, I managed to complete all Adamantite quests because this showed up in my friend medals.
I wish something that strong would show up in my friend's list. I have a 100% guilted BCM and the only quest I can't do is 1-turn cards for adamantite.