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Kingdom Hearts Unchained |OT| - It's not an X - [UP] Worldwide Release
- Thread starter Malyse
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Nice. KH1 Cloud seems amazing so I hope I can pull one.
The Disney medals seem like a joke in comparison (unless Herc gets more attacks as you level him up).
EDIT: Seems like the story quest icons after 200 were updated with a coming soon sign. Hopefully soon means in a week or two.
I mean, it's virtually splitting the medal pool in half - disney characters, and Squeenix characters.
That, and guaranteed higher ranks (which, again, doesn't matter if you have dailies unlocked and are willing to grind for like 45 minutes)
Versus 50% more medals. So on a large sample size (and again, yes, RNG is RNG) means you approach 1/4 less chance to roll a very specific medal you want (1/2 x 150%) while getting 50% more medals.
edit: fixed statistics jargon since get != approach
That, and guaranteed higher ranks (which, again, doesn't matter if you have dailies unlocked and are willing to grind for like 45 minutes)
Versus 50% more medals. So on a large sample size (and again, yes, RNG is RNG) means you approach 1/4 less chance to roll a very specific medal you want (1/2 x 150%) while getting 50% more medals.
edit: fixed statistics jargon since get != approach
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I'm going to wait until we get confirmation that the 6 new units are in the daily gacha before doing my normal pull.
It comes down to how badly you want a specific medal(or multiples of a specific medal), and whether or not we can actually get them in dailies.
Edit: FF & KH is really tempting because it has a number of great medals, though.
Yes it is. Looks like I'll be trying to get KH Cloud through dailies. Hopefully it doesn't take too long and I can save up my jewels for the next batch of new medals.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I got Hercules, Wisdom Form, and Mulan.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I feel like I'm being trolled. Yesterday I pulled a 5* Abu (along with 5* Wisdon Form Sora and 5* Mushu) and then today this:
Mr. Crappy Monkey, we meet again. Yes, you have Sleep. No, I don't want to use you.
I can at least max level the skill and then transfer it with 100% rate to a non-crap character, right?
Mr. Crappy Monkey, we meet again. Yes, you have Sleep. No, I don't want to use you.
Pence is also the only other Skill unit I have. So, I'm certainly scoring home runs there ....
Well, I went for a daily.
I kinda wish the Cloud had been 3*'s though... This is a problem with the way the Album works =( If I want the 3* in the album, I need to get 3*s dammit.
Edit: I'm happy to have a good Power medal, though.
Edit2: Already have a 4* DiZ with a dot, and honestly would've preferred a Vivi since that's the one out of this trio I'm missing, but I'm not gonna complain about that.
I kinda wish the Cloud had been 3*'s though... This is a problem with the way the Album works =( If I want the 3* in the album, I need to get 3*s dammit.
Edit: I'm happy to have a good Power medal, though.
Edit2: Already have a 4* DiZ with a dot, and honestly would've preferred a Vivi since that's the one out of this trio I'm missing, but I'm not gonna complain about that.
At this point I'd rather keep the jewels from the ~1 week of logins than reroll now.
Just spent the better part of the last three hours raising all my 1-2 star medals to at least 3, thanks to the influx of evolve medals, and fusing most of the dupes together. Just as well, as I never bothered to do a 10-pull early on so my offense was pretty limited and mostly reliant on Friend metals to get me through the rough spots. Now I gotta level the whole lot of them. Naturally, the game deems fit to continue dropping 1 star medal dupes as a form of slow torture. My inventory went from 60 to 85 in an effort to keep pace.
Not like I can do all that much else but grind, seeing as I'm starting to hit walls during story progression.
Not like I can do all that much else but grind, seeing as I'm starting to hit walls during story progression.
I'm liking my KH Cloud, especially since I already had a decent DiZ. My Power game has largely improved. If only I was doing better with Magic x.x Magic as a whole is really inefficient right now, lots of high cost medals, no good high efficiency single targets...
Decided I'm going to wait for the next content drop before even thinking of getting a $15 pack.
Considering the way I grinded the shit out of the first few days, what's going to happen if I unlock dailies on Monday is I'll pull maybe a few new medals, max them out then have nothing to do anyway. I can wait.
Considering the way I grinded the shit out of the first few days, what's going to happen if I unlock dailies on Monday is I'll pull maybe a few new medals, max them out then have nothing to do anyway. I can wait.
I may buy it again next week. Grab a couple dailies and save some discounted gems for the future. At least that's what I'll attempt to do lol.
Dunno if we'll continue to have the discount, or how frequent the discounts will come if they do so. Would rather drop $15 on 3k now than 1.7k later when I want them.
I'll also probably continue to grind the hell out of the dailies lol.
Just kidding.
The new units seem hardly any better than the current best ones. Going by the japanese wikis there will be much-much better units in future though. They've given the current best units a ranking of A while some future ones have an SS ranking.
The medals aren't exclusive to the packs. You can get them from the daily pull (600 for 3).
Lady Siara
Member
Reposting this tier list with the new medals being added.
Definitely worth rolling for all of these, the lowest ones are 8.5 on the tier list.
Definitely worth rolling for all of these, the lowest ones are 8.5 on the tier list.
What makes Minnie so good? Healing skills seem kinda useless.
I'm guessing healing skills will be necessary later on when content gets harder. She's the best heal.
Lady Siara
Member
Sounds like it's a super strong heal (~9k at max for two bars) and it's useful for really difficult stages when you won't be able to kill things in one turn.
Minnie's apparently incredible for high level coliseum, because you actually need to heal there.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
No Minnie in my 10 pull. Did get a few OK things (5* Bambi, 4* Beast and Mufasa immediately come to mind). My daily pull got me a 4* Black Coat Riku, so all is OK.
Lady Siara
Member
Holy butts, Hercules can hit for 22k with his ability when maxed out. For comparison, KH1 Cloud hits for 20k in perfect conditions and Riku w/ black coat hits for ~19k!
That's not a big damage boost considering the extra gauge cost. Power and Speed are both good at dishing out high damage while efficiently using their gauge, an extra point for a minor boost in damage, on a single target attack?
Edit: Unrelated, but wow these Morning Stars are gonna be a seriously difficult DPS hurdle... which kinda goes with this post... Magic and efficiency, especially against single targets, don't go all that great. Especially with what I have at my disposal -.- The fifth slot will help some, but magic eats away at the gauge way too fast, and is mostly AoE which isn't helping in this situation.
this is a freaking great news ! Thank for the information
What makes you think you'll get characters you want from the 10 pull?
http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Hercules
He hits 11 times at 6* and its a single target for magic cards. I'm going all in on Herc today since I need a good single target medal (dude probably hits like an 18 wheeler 11 times).
Also read up on minnie http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Minnie.
Do you plan to do the colosseum or use hp draining medals (don't think we have of those yet)? Then you may want to look into trying to pull her too.
Donald Ver.B... no comment (it looks meh, but I don't know what it's like at 6*, so I can't really say).
KH Cloud looks solid especially if you need another heavy hitter like Riku Black Coat.
Master Form Sora is just a better version of stitch (similar to Wakka and KH Riku being the rare version), so it has some limitations.
And then there is KHII Riku, which unless you have a Limit Form Sora (and even if you do) you will likely want to try and get.
To be fair, you do have a better chance because the pool is divided. You won't be getting the disney characters if you pull FF & KH or vice versa. Sure, you still may not get exactly what you're after, but you certainly have a better chance than when you're pulling from everything.
That said, I'd just say stick with the dailies since none of these are exclusive or time limited(to our knowledge). Unless it's someone who's really serious about coliseum or something and wants a Minnie super badly lol.
But Hercules is Power.
Edit: Also high gauge cost for a single target Power medal, when KH Cloud and Black Coat Riku exist.
Edit2: And on that note, both KH Cloud and Black Coat Riku are in the opposite pack to Hercules, so if my core goal was a heavy hitting single target Power medal, and I was grabbing a 10 pack, I'd go there instead lol.
ahh yeah, I was looking at the border, thinkinng it was blue.
It's likely still worth getting for power to.
It likely does more damage the black coat Riku, as Riku is moderate damage and herc is heavy damage. Also Herc has a higher multiplier at max (3.8 for herc and 3.24 for Riku BC).
I don't see why people get hung up on bar. If herc does around 34%+ damage compared to BC Riku then it is a bit better. The comparable card for BC Riku cost is KH Cloud.(cost wise).
Also considering that in the future you will probably want heals, geting herc/minnie is not bad at all (lol Donald... get the fuck outta here).
If you only care about power medals and have no power heavy hitters then it's probably better to go KH pack.
Only 3k more. Not worth the extra gauge IMO.
As above, it's not efficient. It's not dealing enough more to make up for the extra cost, which is important in any fight that's going longer than 1 turn. And frankly, Power does amazingly already with things that can be achieved in a single turn.
If it was Magic, though, I'd be all over that shit, despite its cost. Magic is in a bad spot right now lol.
It doesn't do that though, someone posted above that it does like 22k compared to Cloud's 20k and Riku's 19k. That's nowhere near enough to make up for the extra cost.
Edit: And furthermore, Black Coat Riku and KH Cloud have similar damage, with Cloud edging Riku out when its conditions are met. They both cost 2 gauge. Hercules deals very slightly more and costs 3 gauge. This is why we compare them lol. If you're talking about damage, you're going into min/max territory, and efficiency is important there as well =p
The big problem with Hercules is the current major use for red deck is grinding Guard Armor. His gauge usage makes it a little hard to sustain as opposed to, say, Black Coat Riku + Wakka every round.
Of course, this is like, launch content, and his burst -is- rather absurd when there's stuff that eventually requires it.
Of course, this is like, launch content, and his burst -is- rather absurd when there's stuff that eventually requires it.
I did not see Lady Siara's post before I posted (I'm not going to read every post all the time). In this case you are correct, but I did say if it dealt 34% more then it would roughly equalize the cost difference.
I was not saying that it is better than them, but a hypothetical situation that I would test out if needed.
Since it does not deal around 50% (its early morning, have to fix some iis issues, so my mind is a bit occupied elsewhere. Don't know why I was thing 33ish%.) more damage, then it is not worth looking into, unless you run into situations where you need as much single target burst as possible in 1 turn.
So yeah the only good disney card is minnie.