Going off my time with the game and the giantbombcast the game would be better without all the poorly written boring sidequests that just make the mash X combat even easier.
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Kingdoms Of Amalur: Reckoning |OT| An Enemy-Pounding Funfest
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Going off my time with the game and the giantbombcast the game would be better without all the poorly written boring sidequests that just make the mash X combat even easier.
Done deal. Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
Baconsammy
Banned
Some of the sidequests are great. And you can do as many sidequests as you want, it's not going to make the dungeon quests easier since those scale to you. It's pretty safe to ignore anyone that says the combat amounts to "mash x". All that tells me is you haven't played the game, or you haven't played it much.
It scales by 10 each point and the max of it tops out at a better damage over time effect than the best Gems you can make and with the same proc rate. If you think it's worthless then you must find the weapons with Poison on them equally (rather, more so) worthless.
Poison is also a built-in 33% damage debuff on targets afflicted with it.
@Money: I have 600k and my repairs on a full set of Set equipment and Unique loot is somewhere around 300k ... and most my armor is only half damaged. Vendors have items to purchase for 300-600k+ as well at
Rathir
So how far in are you again? I'd also like to note that doing more quests and outleveling places takes a LOT of leveling since most of them scale pretty well (Dalentarth world map region scales to 16-18 and the dungeons into the 20s) and enemies scale faster and higher than their equipment drops (or, rather, their equipment drops are capped). I'm fighting enemies scale to Level 35-36 area but with Level 14 requirement equipment.
Wow, this game is such an unexpected surprise. I've been playing the PC version, and despite work/going to the gym, I've still managed to put in 13+ hours into the game. Which I know isn't a lot for folks here, it's a lot for me. I'm not the type of person who can sit and play a single game for long stretches of time, but this game really has its hooks in me. Sooo good.
My only real complaint - and this is minor - is the targeting is a little odd when using keyboard/mouse. Who my character is aiming at depends entirely on what direction I'm hitting on the keyboard instead of who I'm aiming at with the mouse. That said I can't give up the K/M controls for a 360 contoller because I don't want to give up using the skill bar. All in all though, this game is a nice change over Skyrim. There are so many little things they've done right. Looking forward to getting more time in the game this weekend.
My only real complaint - and this is minor - is the targeting is a little odd when using keyboard/mouse. Who my character is aiming at depends entirely on what direction I'm hitting on the keyboard instead of who I'm aiming at with the mouse. That said I can't give up the K/M controls for a 360 contoller because I don't want to give up using the skill bar. All in all though, this game is a nice change over Skyrim. There are so many little things they've done right. Looking forward to getting more time in the game this weekend.
Wind's Howling
Member
80% of all the sidequests I played never gave me the ''been there, done that'' feeling, and if you do get a quest with the mission to kill X enemies they tell you the reason as to why to do so. There is a lot of information put into these sidequests and it surprised me a lot. It is definitely not like World of Warcraft where the sole purpose to do those quests is to level up.
Wind's Howling
Member
The points are better invested in Blood Honing and Execution in my opinion. The no increase in poison chance has seriously made me reconsider. But if people want to go a full finesse class they have to pick that ability, especially with some armor out there that are specifically tailored for non-hybrid classes. I do not know why but Poison does not favour me in this game, despite it being a very powerful power in other games. I prefer ice or lightning for both their aesthetics and usage bonuses.
The quests in Detyre seem to tie-in together really well. For instance, the Red Marshes has
three separate NPCs in the region that come into contact with the local cult that massacred the village (and tries to off you when you enter the area); their quest lines intermingle and culminates in the whole lot of you wiping out a Niskaru Lord
I don't know why it stands out to me but the Mage faction was really nice. I liked the bits of lore in the second-to-last quest and I actually took the time to read every single letter I was given here.
Pay to Cure Disease; Healing is just for Health.
How are you getting to Blade Honing and Execution without points in Envenomed Edge entirely? Extra weapon trees? The traps? You're rather hard pressed to reach 35 points spent without the points in EE if you're using one Finesse weapon only. Envenomed Edge scales relatively well, all things considered, and frees up a Gem slot/Gem crafting for Poison damage to trigger Mysterious Toxins or Paralytic Poisons.
And it's a 33% damage debuff on a 15% proc rate for weapon with a high swing count (Daggers/Faeblades); if you're using non-edge weapons (Hammer, Staff, Sceptre) or any of the bigger weapons (...just Greatsword, I guess), then it's not so great.
It's not super amazing WOW type skill but 50 damage/5 seconds (or 70/5 if you have +Abilities capped out) that can crit, debuffs, and is bound to proc on every target with Finesse weapons isn't terrible.
Edit: Though I do think the cost is like 5% too high :|
Wind's Howling
Member
Baconsammy
Banned
You can spot the people that haven't played the game when they claim all the side quests are been there done that with no story other than fetch this or kill that. Some memorable optional quests I've done:
Helped a man turn back into a wolf
Helped a guy that was getting stupider by the minute regain his intelligence
Found a man his bride-to-be only to discover she was a sea monter
Saved a town from a spider infestation, and hunted down the queen. Was given a house as a reward.
Re-enacted 3 ballads
Stole some pornographic books and returned them to a monastery? Seriously, dont just collect those books. Read them. Funny stuff.
And none of those quests count the awesome faction quests that are also optional. And all of this was just in the starting section.
Helped a guy that was getting stupider by the minute regain his intelligence
Found a man his bride-to-be only to discover she was a sea monter
Saved a town from a spider infestation, and hunted down the queen. Was given a house as a reward.
Re-enacted 3 ballads
Stole some pornographic books and returned them to a monastery? Seriously, dont just collect those books. Read them. Funny stuff.
And none of those quests count the awesome faction quests that are also optional. And all of this was just in the starting section.
Robobandit
Member
Well, I started over last night.. decided to just make a new profile and work on a new character instead of deleting my other one.. I think I screwed myself out of the first available house through certain actions.. (killing a npc before I completed their quest seems to have an effect on things)..
I'm using a big hammer and boy are they satisfying. I think I'm going to need to keep a pair of daggers too so I can properly deal with faster enemies like boggarts.. they're chewing me up a lot because I don't have the timing down perfectly on my hammer swings.
Sometimes they leap at me and I just "swing for the fences" so to speak, and they go flying. "..and it's outta here! The crowd goes wild!"
Most of the time they hit me, though.. so I think I'll kill them with a faster weapon.
I'm using a big hammer and boy are they satisfying. I think I'm going to need to keep a pair of daggers too so I can properly deal with faster enemies like boggarts.. they're chewing me up a lot because I don't have the timing down perfectly on my hammer swings.
Sometimes they leap at me and I just "swing for the fences" so to speak, and they go flying. "..and it's outta here! The crowd goes wild!"
Most of the time they hit me, though.. so I think I'll kill them with a faster weapon.
Eh ... I dunno. I really do think Envenomed Edge has merit, though Longbow's Bleed is more important so full Finesse should squeeze that in instead.
I just think the 15% proc rate gets a bad rep since it's the equivalent of the weapon proc rate (as far as my limited sample size has told me) and a higher chance wouldn't do much after the first application anyway.
Baconsammy
Banned
I went with chakrams to handle that. It also helps when you get the skill that let's you ignore all stuns. Basically you're free to carry out all your attacks without interruption, but you'll still taking damage.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Yup, anyone discounting the side quests is full of it. Many of them are HUGE quests with a ton of content that would be "main" quests in every other game. Nothing like WoW at all where you just kill X monster and then come back to the guy. Many of these are big quests with big dungeons or big events. I don't even know why they call them side quests.
Anyway, I played the game ALL day yesterday and my back was hurting for playing so much lol. Everyone buy this if you like RPGs, it's so damn good.
Also, the difficulty gets harder, even with the ability to abuse potions. You can get comboed down so fast even before you can use a potion sometimes.
Wow, I'd never finish a game if I started over every time that happened.
Wind's Howling
Member
The start of this week started out with some personal private issues and I only played this game to take my mind of these issues. Just having something to play. When this happens I am just a robot until I finally come to my senses again. Hence why I want to start over.
100% agree. I have no points in Mercantile, but I do have Detect Hidden (up to hidden doors), I'm obsessive compulsive and break all crates\barrels, and pick up everything to sell. I hit level 13 last night, and have a little over 70k in gold. That's after a 10k repair bill.
I'm having a blast with this game. Almost a pure Finesse build, with high stealth, and daggers. Shanking fools never gets old...and the backstab animation for Trolls and Ettins is AWESOME.
Playing Steam version, 1080p with a wireless 360 controller from the comfy couch. Loving the bright, vibrant world, and the overall art direction for the environments that I have been in. Playing on normal, and thinking of bumping up to hard. Potions + Reckoning mode = win button, so I think I could use a little more of a challenge. Love the loot, though I have not found any Finesse orange drops yet, only a couple of Sorc ones.
I'm still not on board the UI. I hate how the compass, the status effect icons, and the health\mana bars are set "in" instead of resting in the corners. What a waste of screen real estate. Was the UI hard coded for 4:3 ratio? Doesn't ruin the game for me.
100 hours in Skyrim and 10 hours in KOAR. I was hopelessly addicted to Skyrim throughout the 100 hours. But at this point, I'd say KOAR gets my nod because of the combat and incredibly well-designed abilities and destinies tree.
I'm basically done with the game and while I started skipping side quests after a certain point, I've likely seen more than most and I can safely say I've not seen a single one I would characterize as "great" and even calling them good is exaggerating. They are basically at best just passable excuses for dungeon crawling and at worst very much mmorpg-esque kill x/fetch y. It doesn't help that the rewards are almost always very mundane and usually just a small amount of gold. The faction quests are a bit better, but it's still hard to care about the lore due to the way it is presented and how uninteresting the core of it all is.
The combat is fun, but unfortunately the people saying it's just mashing X aren't too off as even on hard that's all that is required from you as long as you mix in some potion hotkeys.
Skyrim is by far the better game, even if KOAR does combat quite a bit better.
The combat is fun, but unfortunately the people saying it's just mashing X aren't too off as even on hard that's all that is required from you as long as you mix in some potion hotkeys.
Skyrim is by far the better game, even if KOAR does combat quite a bit better.
ttocs
Member
Same. I'm finding that I'm a lot more engaged in the gameplay that I was with Skyrim. Don't get me wrong, Skyrim's world is a star in and of itself, but the gameplay in KoA is really hooking me.
Get Blacksmithing; now you'll never sell anything!
And what would be a good/great quest? What separates them is the presentation of the quest and the story/lore surrounding it; the rationale of the quest. If we want to start removing dress-up than you're rather hard pressed to not make a "kill X / fetch Y" quest.
90% of Skyrim's quests are like that so it's a non-factor when comparing both. The problem with Skyrim is that the world is so beautiful but you end up spending 80% of your time in dark boring dungeons filled with generic creatures waiting to be killed via a terrible combat system.
Quite a ways into the game i think I have an honest problem with the drop system.
I get that you can just play the game with one character and do any playstyle with them. Even not counting aesthetics aside from having the race you want, that's a great feature.
But the problem is that the gear you get in this game is never, ever close enough to your level. My might is 70 right now. So why do I constantly get gear, blues or purples, requiring maybe at most 20? The only reason i can think of is that it's gear for multiclassing.
I don't want to multiclass. I want to be the big brute warrior. Where's the great gear for my big brute warrior?
PS: Jesus I want a new hammer already. Having to buy a hammer in the store is embarassing. I'm just past
and i'm still using the gear i won at the arena.
I get that you can just play the game with one character and do any playstyle with them. Even not counting aesthetics aside from having the race you want, that's a great feature.
But the problem is that the gear you get in this game is never, ever close enough to your level. My might is 70 right now. So why do I constantly get gear, blues or purples, requiring maybe at most 20? The only reason i can think of is that it's gear for multiclassing.
I don't want to multiclass. I want to be the big brute warrior. Where's the great gear for my big brute warrior?
PS: Jesus I want a new hammer already. Having to buy a hammer in the store is embarassing. I'm just past
breaking the siege
Wind's Howling
Member
I'll just state this as being an opinion and not even remotely close to fact.
And I do not know how you faired against lets say sprites, treshes or even gangs of giants but just mashing the X button against them is pure dead. Of course you can use a lot of potions but then you are removing the fun from combat if you do not dodge and use all types of spells at your disposal.
Loot is level capped to the area itself, not the level of the enemies (or your character). The drops all actually do favor more focused builds rather than hybrids (Level 18 equipment have a requirement of basically 80% of your points in that tree).
Loot progression seems to follow a certain curve that the developers had in mind for your level path through the game. Then there's the 300 some odd sidequests to muck that level progression up.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Finally got to some hard enemies. Those ettin war chieftons knocked me for a loop when I first encountered them. Once you learn the moves of the enemies in this game, it becomes easy. Its always great to meet new enemy types because they make the game feel threatening again.
Smoke bomb is crazy good too. You can use it in towns too so you can steal stuff without people seeing you.
Smoke bomb is crazy good too. You can use it in towns too so you can steal stuff without people seeing you.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Really enjoying myself so far, interested to see how well it holds up after 60+ hours though.
Everything about it really does give me this retro action RPG feel that I feel I've been missing for a generation. At first it feels like it's not something you'd want to sit and play for 12 hours straight, but then I put in 5 last night and only stopped because I had to go to work today.
Everything about it really does give me this retro action RPG feel that I feel I've been missing for a generation. At first it feels like it's not something you'd want to sit and play for 12 hours straight, but then I put in 5 last night and only stopped because I had to go to work today.
gosh i thought i was still rushing through the game too. I have a bout a mirrion sidequests i haven't done. I'm only level 20 something too. Shops seem to carry much better equipment than what drops in the area for me
Edit: I think what i'm getting at is that whenever loot drops it falls into two categories. It's either something I wont use or it's something I can use. Never something that I have to look forward to using.
So something I just found out that makes the housing system in this game better than any other RPG that I can think of in recent memory. When you use a stash in one house, it collects things for every stash in every house you own. So you have access to all of your stashed gear in every house no matter what house you stashed it in.
The combat was excellent from what I played in the demo. It was very much Ninja Gaiden/God of War-esque. Timing and charging were essential to getting the most out of the combat system. I'm pretty sure that air-combos and juggling play into it later on as well.
I really don't get the complaints about it being MASH X 2 WIN since the game merely seems to let you get by on that. If you want to truly express yourself as a player, and make fights easier by kicking even more ass, it's best to learn the deeper intricacies of the combat system.
gosh i thought i was still rushing through the game too. I have a bout a mirrion sidequests i haven't done. I'm only level 20 something too. Shops seem to carry much better equipment than what drops in the area for me
The area after
the siege of Mel Senshir
Mel Senshir
Yeah, there's never really a "loot to look forward to" feeling, just the "hoping for better loot" feeling. Personally, I'm fine with it as there's still a loot progression.
Downside of this is ... only having one stash! Mine is almost completely full of Unique/Set equipment. I wanted to collect them all
I understand, because I constantly space out when I'm playing games and miss chunks of the story. I honestly would never finish an RPG if I restatred every time that happened.
Only through blacksmithing, I guess.
I second this. I am only level 14 and have been in numerous encounters where I have been gang raped and could not even be bothered to just spam the square button. You have to block, parry, roll (or blink), use melee, range and magic/special abilities in order to survive many encounters. Every game like this has some trash mobs where you can hack n' slash with ease, but to say that is all that is required in order to get through the meat of this game is flat-out bullshit.
The area afterDownside of this is ... only having one stash! Mine is almost completely full of Unique/Set equipment. I wanted to collect them all
I'll take that over having to lug everything from one house to another like I had to do in Skyrim. Get an upgraded house? Time to move all my shit from my old one to the new one. That took forever.
How is this for a hybrid Sorcy/Finesse?
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The_Darkest_Red
Member
This game has me completely and totally hooked. I'm at 13.5 hours played right now after owning the game for 3 days and I can't wait to jump back in to do more quests. Everything about the game, even the quests that some might describe as "fetchy" or mundane is a blast for me right now. Obviously there is a lot of personal preference involved with this type of thing but I find this game to be much more compelling and interesting than Skyrim ever was for me in just about every single way.
I'd personally put two points from Healing Surge into Envenomed Edge. But that's basically my projected Shadowcaster build if I switch to it from my 79/44 Spellcloak one; there's some excess skills (or not, if PC with Keyboard/Mouse) but all three Elemental passives serve to boost Elemental Rage and then there's Tempest.
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Deleted member 17706
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I can't say how it gets later on, but I have 20 quests completed and all of them have been fairly interesting to me. I guess it all depends on whether or not you care about the world and lore. That kind of goes without saying, though.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
You mean the text color? It represents item rarity.
White is common
Green is infrequent
Blue is rare
Purple is unique
Yellow is set piece
Im only at around 10 hours but I am very much enjoying it. My biggest complains are occasional drops in difficulty due to outleveled content and having to retreat dungeons (for quests) in which the chests do not respawn and enemies are faceroll material.
I am getting a bit bored of my 100% finesse dagger + bow build with the hunter destiny. Any recommendations? I do like finesse, so perhaps I could spice it up by branching out towards sorcery or might?
Also, any thoughts on persuasion? I put most of my points into detect hidden but am now sharing them between stealth, persuasion etc. Persuasion seems very nice as I keep managing to keep purple quest items for myself instead of turning them in to NPCs...
I am getting a bit bored of my 100% finesse dagger + bow build with the hunter destiny. Any recommendations? I do like finesse, so perhaps I could spice it up by branching out towards sorcery or might?
Also, any thoughts on persuasion? I put most of my points into detect hidden but am now sharing them between stealth, persuasion etc. Persuasion seems very nice as I keep managing to keep purple quest items for myself instead of turning them in to NPCs...
Wind's Howling
Member
That is what I eventually had as well, especially when watching videos of people playing hybrid classes or full mage.
Haunted
Member
New to loot games, eh?
White is common.
Green is uncommon.
Blue is rare.
Purple is unique (named).
This scheme actually holds true across a multitude of games.
Thanks!!
BrettWeir
Member
Only thing i have found in this game that i hate, is that i cant get this damned House of Ballads armor set out of my inventory.
And i wish you could salvage purple/gold gear for crafting.
Other than that, this is all i have wanted in a single player RPG. So much fun! And the environments are jaw dropping.
And i wish you could salvage purple/gold gear for crafting.
Other than that, this is all i have wanted in a single player RPG. So much fun! And the environments are jaw dropping.