You honestly think a game won't change between a demo and the final build? How about if the owner of the studio comes on GAF and says its an old, glitchy build - would that convince you?
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning - Review Thread
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You honestly think a game won't change between a demo and the final build? How about if the owner of the studio comes on GAF and says its an old, glitchy build - would that convince you?
Pretty sure they addressed the lack of swag though.
Extra Sauce
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I feel my swag leaving my body as people make fun of me for using the word swag.
Cruel irony.
Cruel irony.
LiquidMetal14
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The camera didn't bother me as much as the FOV. I hope that's adjustable on the PC release.
NoirVisage
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its an ugly word, relish the detox and get some actual swagger about you.
I find the camera almost perfect. There's a few hiccups here and there (notably glitches that have been confirmed fixed) but it handles perfectly fine. This is on the PC with a 360 controller. I'm curious if there's something I'm just missing about this bad camera (since it's a common complaint) or if there's something else afoot.
As for the UI ... hm. I get what you mean but it's really easy to use and the entire Compare mechanic on looting (+ Junk menu) kind of negates almost all of the menu complaints I could have. The HUD is serviceable and I can semi-agree that it doesn't feel like it has a lot of extra polish to it ... but it's also an HUD and it's hard to really care that it's "only" serviceable.
I think it may be a bit hyperbolic to claim it'll "blow everything out of the water" and all that but if only because I think it creates unnecessary hype for the game to aspire to. I'd rather see it reach that height and then have it touted rather than have it lauded about before we get our shot with it.
That said, I am looking forward to the game at least having my favorite combat of the genre and I hope this leads to more actually fun combat to be had down the road. If the rest of the game (i.e., the story, dungeons, etc.) is half as fun/engaging as the combat, I'll be more than satisfied with the game as a whole.
I guess personal opinions will be personal. I think there is more than enough good in this game to be better, in certain aspects, than Skyrim or Dark Souls. Each game has their strong points and weak points. I stopped playing Skyrim because of the game breaking bug I experienced. However, until that point I was enjoying it. I know I am going to enjoy KOAR quite a bit also. If I encounter a game breaking bug in it, the same effect is more than likely to occur. The difference being, several (including Curt himself) from BHG and 38 Studios has come on here and personally stated that they will address each issue that is possible. The camera being one thing they are looking into right now. Can they promise it will be fixed; no. If they can will they; I get the impression, yes. The thing is that most developers hide behind PR BS when addressing any concern. Some of you are being a little irrational in your defense of your opinions. You don't like it because it cursed at grandmother or whatever reason. Don't think because you don't like it that it must be a bad game or must do something worse than another game in the genre. Once again, guess personal opinions will be personal.
Damn, good thing that Curt and company have thick skins. Otherwise they would likely end up being commited to a mental institution with the ridiculous notions some have.
Damn, good thing that Curt and company have thick skins. Otherwise they would likely end up being commited to a mental institution with the ridiculous notions some have.
Baconsammy
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Yeah, I'm done interacting with you.
GoofsterStud
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Anyone heard information on the PC version yet?
I am just want to make sure that it's not a horrible console port like Devils May Cry.
Mediocre or better would be acceptable (Sonic Generations and Skyrim)
I am just want to make sure that it's not a horrible console port like Devils May Cry.
Mediocre or better would be acceptable (Sonic Generations and Skyrim)
GoofsterStud
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Try the demo.
I never play demo's. I have played to many that ruin things for me in one way or another in the past.
I'd say it is mediocre. Seems pretty lacking in graphic settings and clearly uses console textures, but runs well and has above average controller support.
Edit - They get a free point for not using mouse smoothing/accel, something even a lot of hardcore PC studios are fucking up these past few years.
GoofsterStud
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It's similar to the latter Fables; it doesn't feel as constricted to me as Fable 1, which IIRC was severely limited by Xbox 1 hardware.
That's just it though, the reviewer has played it. His opinion is that it will surpass benchmarks reached by other games. I can see where he is coming from but at the same time, I don't like to sit here and claim I have first hand knowledge because I don't. And neither does anyone else, with the exception of reviewers and others that have received the game early.
Sylonious
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Yeah, the EA guy was there with him during the live stream. They have an exclusive.
Yes, though some March magazines are starting to get out there that also have Amalur reviews in it (like OXM apparently). Otherwise the reviews are under embargo; not sure when exactly but safe to assume either the 6th or 7th.
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They had to do what they had to do to make sure the game sells. Almost like the Famitsu of America. Of course I have no clue if the game is deserving of that score, but if the general opinion becomes that it isn't, it's pretty obvious the whole exclusive review thing was just a giant moneyhat.
Seems like a terrible practice though in general, no matter if this particular game deserves the score or not
I wonder if that will shake the very idea of reviews completly
Also IGN stated that Amalur has much better combat than Dark Souls, which did make me very suspecious, that is why i noticed it was the only online review in the first place
Sylonious
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Lol, there are people here playing it and streaming the game on USStream.
You can ask people here if you are suspicious.
Been watching a live stream for like 3 hours. The game looks pretty cool.
That's a pretty illogical comparison.
Dark Souls combat is what it is because it's part of the game design, it would be totally broken if you could do in that game what you can do Amalur.
They're both great combat systems in third person fantasy games, but that doesn't mean there's grounds for comparison.
Also, I really doubt IGN was "moneybagged" on this review. I don't if I would personally score the game that high yet, but a 9 isn't the kind of score that leaves me going "what?!". It's a really solid title that has a few small problems, besides that, it's great.
Vinterbird
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Better then Dark Souls depend on where you are coming from on that topic. I prefer easy going arcadey action, rather then the focused and slower going tempo of the Souls games. It's a personal preference, like every single review out there.
And exclusive reviews happen all the time in every medium, it's it something new, and all if the "moneyhats!" things are funny, since I don't ever remember there ever being any concrete evidence of it ever happening in the industry. There has been review tours to a hotel to play the game and so on, but that is not a bribe, it's a way to control the review experience.
I dont know, they seemed to eager to downplay all other recent RPGs and compare them to Amalur, both Skyrim and Dark Souls
Add the exlusivity and i cant but feel there is a chance they are not that unbiased
I may be wrong of course
, the game itself seems good anywayVinterbird
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I dont know, they seemed to eager to downplay all other recent RPGs and compare them to Amalur, both Skyrim and Dark Souls
Add the exlusivity and i cant but feel there is a chance they are not that unbiased
I may be wrong of course
I think it's over thinking it. I honestly just think it comes down to "I like this better then the other games, and I will now try to explain it in a overstated dumb fashion", and then it becoming a controversial topic suddenly.
Pretty much. And I can see someone preferring Reckoning's combat over Dark Souls, even if I don't think it's actually better. Much like I know a lot of people prefer Batman's combat over Devil May Cry.
It's very accessible and flashy, so it looks cool even without having to put in much effort to master it.
Been playing the PC version for about an hour, pop-in + draw distance/LOD is 99% like the demo.
Sadness
That's a shame.
Been playing the PC version for about an hour, pop-in + draw distance/LOD is 99% like the demo.
Sadness
At least you get to play. Not even a pre-load on steam yet
.At least you get to play. Not even a pre-load on steam yet
Yep, I'm mad salty. I want to pre-load it already, stupid slow internet connection. Come on valve, press the switch already!
I meant that I'd rather it reach the height from the collective word of mouth rather than a bar set by the hype engine/reviews.
Felix Lighter
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What graphical options do we have access to?Been playing the PC version for about an hour, pop-in + draw distance/LOD is 99% like the demo.
Sadness
Off of the top of my head, we have the same as in the demo but either the texture or the shadow option have more settings to choose from.
I am not at home so I can't post pics, sorry.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
How do you get the PC version early?
I have too much work these days, Amalur will have to wait some warmer weather. Entire Serbia is in half a meter of snow...
Pirates released a crack.
Pirates released a crack.
My educated guess is Monday at noon EST.
Lol, it wouldn't take much to have better combat than Dark Souls, since its combat was pretty much craptastic. Reckoning seems to have far more viable combat styles. Still, I can't see why designers try to include systems requiring fine timing given the large input lag from wireless controllers and modern tvs.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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We was told there are Super Bowl ads, so be on the look out tonight.
Barack Lesnar
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Seriously? wow that's a huge cost, like almost 3 mil per 30 secs
MushroomSamba
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Gerstmanngate.
Their community manager (Muse?) said on the official forums that there won't be trailer. It was just a false rumor.
Think of it like this.
If you were IGN and were getting exclusive reviews, but you started handing out scores of 5, would you continue to be offered exclusive reviews? Or would publishers find a website that's more.. agreeable?
I can't really say if there's moneyhatting involved (and this applies to every title, not just Amalur). I do know however that there are benefits to providing good scores. The promise of a free lunch is enticing, works, and is used in all areas of business, including the game industry.
Ya no SB ads, though we would have loved one, or two
The LOD stuff, I am actively looking at it, and for it, and honestly it's not something that's affecting the game play for me.
Now understand that has NOTHING to do with how it's going to affect you, but I urge you guys on the fence to watch this event, before deciding go/no go.
I think many of the demo concerns will be answered, maybe for the better, maybe for worse, but I am ok with whatever your purchase decision is once you see gamers actually playing it.
Like every game I've ever played I have nit picks and concerns, and you can assume this is a biased comment or not given my position, but I've run into nothing that's encroaching on my enjoyment.
I'm on the XBox build right now btw.
Hardest thing for me to date has been something that's plagued me forever in MMO's. Incorporating 'new' abilities. I get so set on my style that I have issues incorporating my new skills like shadow bolt/daggers when the get introduced
Also, even though I KNEW it to be true, I am finding it pretty damn cool that as I grow in ability, my 'skill' as a player can help me get better, twisting combo's and skills together.
One more thing, save Reckoning mode It's clear to me now, EVEN ON NORMAL MODE, that Reckoning mode is exactly what it was intended to be, an ultra powerful way to overcome an otherwise unbeatable encounter.
What's cool to me is that it's made me, even when my Reckoning meter is full, try to save it and persevere through some tougher encounters, saving Reckoning mode for battles I know are incoming.
Oh and one more thing, there are some "Boss" fights, end of quest fights, that our designers got sneaky as hell on.
Had one last night where I was like, oh man, nice, I did it. Only to turn around 30 seconds later and realize THIS was the final encounter, which was damn cool.
The LOD stuff, I am actively looking at it, and for it, and honestly it's not something that's affecting the game play for me.
Now understand that has NOTHING to do with how it's going to affect you, but I urge you guys on the fence to watch this event, before deciding go/no go.
I think many of the demo concerns will be answered, maybe for the better, maybe for worse, but I am ok with whatever your purchase decision is once you see gamers actually playing it.
Like every game I've ever played I have nit picks and concerns, and you can assume this is a biased comment or not given my position, but I've run into nothing that's encroaching on my enjoyment.
I'm on the XBox build right now btw.
Hardest thing for me to date has been something that's plagued me forever in MMO's. Incorporating 'new' abilities. I get so set on my style that I have issues incorporating my new skills like shadow bolt/daggers when the get introduced
Also, even though I KNEW it to be true, I am finding it pretty damn cool that as I grow in ability, my 'skill' as a player can help me get better, twisting combo's and skills together.
One more thing, save Reckoning mode
It's clear to me now, EVEN ON NORMAL MODE, that Reckoning mode is exactly what it was intended to be, an ultra powerful way to overcome an otherwise unbeatable encounter.What's cool to me is that it's made me, even when my Reckoning meter is full, try to save it and persevere through some tougher encounters, saving Reckoning mode for battles I know are incoming.
Oh and one more thing, there are some "Boss" fights, end of quest fights, that our designers got sneaky as hell on.
Had one last night where I was like, oh man, nice, I did it. Only to turn around 30 seconds later and realize THIS was the final encounter, which was damn cool.
Wool over your eyes, not mine. The owner would have no reason to lie about something he wants me to spend sixty dollars on.
Baconsammy
Banned
Curt can't help teasing us. Let us buy the game now!
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