Kobe Bryant likely has a torn achilles tendon

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Dragon

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Personal? I'm throwing salt at someone who came in here on some ignorant shit an started crying when it got thrown back at him.

This could have been summed up by simply saying, "it's the Internet, I'll act like an asshole if I want to."

You could have even saved yourself some typing.

Sorry Dastardly Jenks is used to the hockey thread where people actually care about hockey. He's just a little salty because no one gives a shit when Sidney Crosby gets concussed for the thirtieth time here.

I like hockey
 

daycru

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No wonder dastardly jerks has so much free time to brainlessly kvetch about the mean ol' popular American getting more play than some hockey guy.

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Shouldn't the Lakers amnesty Kobe and resign him a year later? He won't play anyways next year and he will still be payed. That would save them A LOT of luxury tax money.

AT tears are 6-12 months recovery. He can come back for the start of the season even, probably before the all-star break.
 
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Goro Majima

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Shouldn't the Lakers amnesty Kobe and resign him a year later? He won't play anyways next year and he will still be payed. That would save them A LOT of luxury tax money.

He's fighting age as much as the injury at this point. If he was younger it may be different but he's nearly 35 as it is and he'd be 36 if he sat out a year.
 

Triple U

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Some real salt in here over Dast, damn lol.

Never make fun of soft ass NBA players. Gotcha.
Nobody gives a shit about Kobe. It's just that your boy literally went from "fuck yo couch" to "why you gotta be so mean bro" in the span of a page when he got called out about trying to make NHL players seem like Spartans or some shit.

There's some saying about glass houses and throwing stones or something.
 

MrOogieBoogie

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I'm sure most active people will agree, being injured in any way, shape or form is one of the most depressing things in the world. I've been recovering from a wrist injury for five months now and it's absolutely taken a toll on me both physically, and more importantly, mentally.
 
But Duncan has a coach who will rest him when he sees him tired or knows he needs him prime for the playoffs. Pringles being the super coach he is will tell kobe to run faster and harder after a week of playing the whole game. Kobe has been on zero rest. Playing all 48 minutes of the game. Disgusting.

I'm sure Kobe has nothing to with him playing all those minutes

Dantoni basically can't say no to they guy or he gets fired
 
i dont think dantoni should get a lot of blame but fuck him anyways.

Some real salt in here over Dast, damn lol.

Never make fun of soft ass NBA players. Gotcha.

more like dont shit up threads looking for attention and pretend to act tough and then cry to mommy when someone on the internet hurts your feelings. i thought yall were supposed to be TOUGH and GRR and ROARRR?

i also find it fucking hilarious cake boss is talking about softness
 

charsace

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Its sad that Kobe's career ended during a rigged game. I know he had nothing to do with it, but some of the taint sticks to him.
 

charsace

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"I'm riding him like freakin' Secretariat," -D'Antoni on Amare's playing time.

Kobe is just the current horse he's ridden into the ground.
 

Maddocks

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I'm sure Kobe has nothing to with him playing all those minutes
Dantoni basically can't say no to they guy or he gets fired

he's the coach, he's supposed to put player safety above all else. That's his job. He cant say,"well go for it kobe!" Kobe hyperextended his knee, he was on the ground holding it, medical trainer ready to examine him and what did pringles do? waved him off because kobe said he's fine. It happens again and this time kobe is limping around the backcourt clearly in pain, but he's the player so of course he will say he's fine. He wants to play, he's willing his team to win even when they gave up. Happened again. Pringles not doing a damn thing. Who cares if your fired, what's the point of having the job if your best player is gone. Besides he has a 3 year contract and he gets paid in full all 3 years even if fired because jim buss is an idiot, but that's a discussion for another time.

Kobe no doubt said he can play, but as a coach you have to look at the big picture and not destroy your star player. two times pringles could have taken kobe out to make sure for a fact he was ok and both times he shrugged it off. Third time cost us kobe and maybe even the final playoff spot. I don't blame it all on pringles, but I place a shit ton on him because he didn't do his job.
 
Achilles tears are some of the random injuries one can get and we are blaming Kobe's playing time on it

I'm glad we have so many MDs on GAF who know the science!
 

lamaroo

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Of course I've skated before, I've even tolerated a hockey game before. And velocity occurs with everything that moves, don't know why you're acting like its exclusive to hockey. And the funny thing about velocity in basketball vs hockey is that in hockey when you change direction or what ever, your pretty little ice skates will slide until your momentum is almost completely dissipated. In basketball/football/soccer whatever, you changing direction means you driving your foot into the ground/floor as hard as you have to at a single point, leaving the burden entirely on your legs to absorb momentum and the impact. It's especially taxing in basketball with these new super lightweight shoes with almost no cushioning and incredible traction to ensure that you get all that impact. If it makes you feel better, I'm sure Kobe could be ice skating in a months time after his surgery.

Now lets continue into you fellating the big strong hockey players...

Nobody has called out this post on its bullshit yet?

Try and play hockey my friend, way more physically exhausting than basketball. Stopping and starting on skates is something that happens many times a shift, and takes way more energy than on foot. You don't have time in a hockey game to do a pretty little loop everytime you need to change direction.
 
Hopefully one day you'll go traveling the world, and you'll notice this thing where people outside of your country have different lingo to yours. Best prepare yourself for it now before you receive a rude shock, lest you go to the UK and get personally offended if somebody asks you for "a fag".



I must be the first person on NeoGAF to enter a topic, see the context and call it as they see it. Imagine that, a world where people are able to discuss perspectives, opinions and ideas on a global scale on the internet.



You've got a world of hardship ahead of you if you take this sort of thing personally.

Since there's no further relevant discussion, I'll leave it as this.
youve been quite the annoying fuck up in here. if you dont care for the discussion or the tone of it then bow the fuck out. You came in here abrasive and ignorant and now you have the nerve to be condescending. just bail out.
 
wow..

didn't like how he handled some of his off court issues and his relationship w former/current teammates, but this guy is/was a baller. can't deny that

I hope he doesn't end his career this way. i have a feeling that he'll be back though
 

Cake Boss

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Nobody has called out this post on its bullshit yet?

Try and play hockey my friend, way more physically exhausting than basketball. Stopping and starting on skates is something that happens many times a shift, and takes way more energy than on foot. You don't have time in a hockey game to do a pretty little loop everytime you need to change direction.

HOCKEY? LOLOLOL NO

It aint popular enough around the world, therefore I cant enjoy it.
 

GeoramA

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Sucks. Would have been awesome to see him in the finals one last time, but they probably would have gotten swept in the 1st round anyway...
 
Nobody has called out this post on its bullshit yet?

Try and play hockey my friend, way more physically exhausting than basketball. Stopping and starting on skates is something that happens many times a shift, and takes way more energy than on foot. You don't have time in a hockey game to do a pretty little loop everytime you need to change direction.

Citation please. Please show me the energy expenditures for both sports and show that hockey is way more physically exhausting than basketball.
 
Nobody has called out this post on its bullshit yet?

Try and play hockey my friend, way more physically exhausting than basketball. Stopping and starting on skates is something that happens many times a shift, and takes way more energy than on foot. You don't have time in a hockey game to do a pretty little loop everytime you need to change direction.

No one cares about hockey. Why is this shit even in this thread? Kobe Bryant is one of the most famous athletes in the world. 9/10 American could not pick Sidney Crosby out of a police lineup.
 

lamaroo

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Citation please. Please show me the energy expenditures for both sports and show that hockey is way more physically exhausting than basketball.

You haven't played both?

Anyway, that was a throwaway statement, ignore it if you like. My post was about calling him on his bullshit. "lol nobody ever stops in hockey".
 

Derrick01

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For being fans of the Toughest Sport in the World, hockey fans sure have a bad case of inferiority complex to gate crash a thread of another sport just to prop theirs up. I guess the toughness kind of starts and ends with the players only. Or maybe it's just physical toughness with no mental.
 

bjb

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Achilles tears are some of the random injuries one can get and we are blaming Kobe's playing time on it

I'm glad we have so many MDs on GAF who know the science!

Other mechanisms by which the Achilles can be torn involve sudden direct trauma to the tendon, or sudden activation of the Achilles after atrophy from prolonged periods of inactivity. Some other common tears can occur from overuse while participating in intense sports. Twisting or jerking motions can also contribute to injury.

These tears are usually the result of mechanical stress and intratendinous degeneration or pathology. The tendon can be affected by recurrent microtrauma with a low propensity to heal or degenerative changes within the tendon.

Might want to hit the books again, Dr House.
 
No one cares about hockey. Why is this shit even in this thread? Kobe Bryant is one of the most famous athletes in the world. 9/10 American could not pick Sidney Crosby out of a police lineup.
For being fans of the Toughest Sport in the World, hockey fans sure have a bad case of inferiority complex to gate crash a thread of another sport just to prop theirs up.
Cold, hard, truth.
 

numble

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You haven't played both?

I don't think people can make judgements about energy expenditures of major league athletes based on playing the sports themselves, unless they actually played them in the major leagues. Even many athletes that do well in NCAA basketball aren't athletic enough to cut it in the NBA, with the 24 second shot clock, 8 second rule, and competitors that are taller and jump higher.
 
I don't think people can make judgements about energy expenditures of major league athletes based on playing the sports themselves, unless they actually played them in the major leagues. Even many athletes that do well in NCAA basketball aren't athletic enough to cut it in the NBA, with the 24 second shot clock, 8 second rule, and competitors that are taller and jump higher.

I agree with numble. Simply saying "I played both at a non-competitive level and can judge that one sport makes me more tired than another" would be wrong.

So, lamaroo, tell me the measured energy expenditures for each sport and show me again your hard proof that hockey is more exhausting than basketball. Otherwise, blanket statements shouldn't be made.
 
Might want to hit the books again, Dr House.

Good job, you can use google, if you knew a damn thing about about science you'd realize those causes are a blanket broad reason for things in which in we aren't sure or can't predict it. No shit overuse can lead to it, but over a few months of extra use but maybe years.


But you're an MD so I'll take your word for it
 

Truelize

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I'm sorry Milchjon, I don't mean to hamper your experience intentionally. And frankly I couldn't care less how anything compares to the NHL. I live in a country where nobody even knows it exists, and specifically in a city where AFL is religion.

My original point is that an achilles tendon injury, pending permanent damage (rare cases), is recovered from with 4-6 months of surgery and rehab and that I'd seen it enough in various leagues of different sports to know that it isn't worth the melodrama of what's being displayed. Everything else was a tangent, and I apologise for it hampering your internet forum experience.

You don't know a thing. I wonder where you get your expert opinions from. Achilles is a 9-12 month recovery process for normal activity. If you are an elite athlete you will have to be blessed with a body that responds extremely well to the rehab process and heal quicker than average to be playing the sport of your choice in less than a year.
You have never seen an athlete recover from a full tear of the Achilles and come back in 4 to 6 months. Never.

Want to know how I know that you are full of crap?!?! Because I am three months post surgery as of tomorrow and I have been able to walk without an aircast for a week now and was given the goal to be able to stand on my toes in three months. Yes, I saw my surgeon on Thursday and was told that when she sees me back in three months she wants me to be able to walk with a normal stride and to be able to stand on my toes without assistance. Not juggling not working on plyometrics. Standing on my toes.


So that will be at 6 months surgery. And you think full recovery at 4-6 months? Go tell your stories elsewhere.
 

lamaroo

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I don't think people can make judgements about energy expenditures of major league athletes based on playing the sports themselves, unless they actually played them in the major leagues. Even many athletes that do well in NCAA basketball aren't athletic enough to cut it in the NBA, with the 24 second shot clock, 8 second rule, and competitors that are taller and jump higher.

Certainly my experience wouldn't translate to the NBA or NHL, but from experience I exhausted much more energy per shift playing hockey than I did playing basketball. Again that was a throwaway statement though not meant to be taken too seriously, probably should have just left it out considering it didn't really have anything to do with correcting the mistakes of that other poster.

No other hockey league compares to the NHL either in the same way as your example.

I agree with numble. Simply saying "I played both at a non-competitive level and can judge that one sport makes me more tired than another" would be wrong.

So, lamaroo, tell me the measured energy expenditures for each sport and show me again your hard proof that hockey is more exhausting than basketball. Otherwise, blanket statements shouldn't be made.

Read above. If you don't want to believe me, then just take my post as personal experience, I didn't say NHL players exhaust more energy than NBA players in it anyway, but I do believe that.
 

bjb

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Good job, you can use google, if you knew a damn thing about about science you'd realize those causes are a blanket broad reason for things in which in we aren't sure or can't predict it. No shit overuse can lead to it, but over a few months of extra use but maybe years.

But you're an MD so I'll take your word for it

Stick to listening to Drake instead of dispensing false information, Doctor.
 

turnbuckle

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I'm sure most active people will agree, being injured in any way, shape or form is one of the most depressing things in the world. I've been recovering from a wrist injury for five months now and it's absolutely taken a toll on me both physically, and more importantly, mentally.

Yes.

I had 3 tears in the shoulder on my dominant (right) arm last summer. I went from running, swimming, rock climbing, playing basketball, racquetball, lifting weights, and doing disc golf to gaining about 25 pounds of fat, getting depressed, breaking up with my girlfriend, and sitting on my ass doing nothing but working or playing Diablo III for 5-6 months because I felt like there was fuck all else I could do until I had surgery and recovered.

It's been nearly a year since my injury and almost 6 months since my surgery. I'm finally able to work out again and have shed about 20 pounds of what I gained, but I still can't do most of the things I enjoy that helped keep me in shape. Feel like I'll never truly be able to throw a football or baseball again or swing a racquet with as much force as I'd like, but I know the time for a "full recovery" is still several months out so I'm hopefully just being pessimistic.

The most depressing time of my life has been this one; well, the worst of it was the beginning but it's getting better. Now that I'm getting active again I'm at least more optimistic but deathly afraid of re-injuring my shoulder and going back through all this again. The mental part is much harder to bear than the physical toll an injury puts a person through. At least from my experience.

As for Kobe: Second greatest player I've seen in my lifetime. Toughest player I've ever seen in my lifetime. You don't have to be a Lakers fan to feel terrible about this. One less reason to watch the NBA. I hope he makes a full recovery, but I'm not so sure. If anyone could pull it off, a young Kobe would be that guy. I have no doubt this older model will do all he can to prove everyone wrong and I hope he does.
 

Godslay

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I agree with numble. Simply saying "I played both at a non-competitive level and can judge that one sport makes me more tired than another" would be wrong.

So, lamaroo, tell me the measured energy expenditures for each sport and show me again your hard proof that hockey is more exhausting than basketball. Otherwise, blanket statements shouldn't be made.

Ice hockey requires a blend of athleticism that basketball doesn't require. It's physically more demanding at all levels.
 
HOCKEY? LOLOLOL NO

It aint popular enough around the world, therefore I cant enjoy it.

nobody with even a sliver of conscience would associate themselves with a trash sport where black players get bananas thrown at them and receive tweets in which they're called niggers and that they should go play basketball

i shudder to think about the abuse seth jones will receive after all the slackjawed racists that constitute a large part of nhl fandom see him in action
 

Kobe24

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Sean Deveney @SeanDeveney
Dr says Kobe may lose 1-2 in off his vert. When he returns:"80% is realistic, could be 90% bc of how hard he works. It won’t be 100% though”



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Surgeon says Kobe could be back in 6 mos if AT is torn:"I would guess he would be on the short end of the recovery rather than the long end"


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Still, more likely Kobe timeline is 9-12 mos: "For someone playing at the level that Kobe plays at, you’d expect it to be nine months."
 

pompidu

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Nobody has called out this post on its bullshit yet?

Try and play hockey my friend, way more physically exhausting than basketball. Stopping and starting on skates is something that happens many times a shift, and takes way more energy than on foot. You don't have time in a hockey game to do a pretty little loop everytime you need to change direction.
not to rip on hockey but you also get a break every 30 seconds. dont make any sense.
 
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