Fenderputty
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Hockey fans are an odd bunch.
Kobe Bryant likely has a torn achilles tendon
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Hockey fans are an odd bunch.
Big Baybee
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lmao
Dastardly Jerks
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I'm sorry Milchjon, I don't mean to hamper your experience intentionally. And frankly I couldn't care less how anything compares to the NHL. I live in a country where nobody even knows it exists, and specifically in a city where AFL is religion.
My original point is that an achilles tendon injury, pending permanent damage (rare cases), is recovered from with 4-6 months of surgery and rehab and that I'd seen it enough in various leagues of different sports to know that it isn't worth the melodrama of what's being displayed. Everything else was a tangent, and I apologise for it hampering your internet forum experience.
Who did you see come back from one in the NBA? The most recent tears all resulted in retirement in the NBA--Barkley, Shaq, and Billups, who is basically retired.
Your original point was calling NBA players, and in this case, Kobe Bryant, a pussy because they take an excessive amount of time to recover. This was proved false, as Kobe almost always plays through his injuries. Any NBA fan can tell you that, regardless of they how they feel about him personally.
Second, can you provide some examples of 34-year old NBA shooting guards who suffered an achilles tear and how they fared after recovery?
Elton Brand came back from his tear in 2007. He was younger than those guys though.
Dastardly Jerks
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Didn't Dominique Wilkins make a successful comeback?
Fenderputty
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It's who it happened to that's causing the melodrama you fuckwhit. Kobe moving on signifies a closing of an era. Even slaty Kobe haters are in here acknowledging this. It looked like he was gonna be great for another couple of years too. Who knows if he'll be good at 36 after trying to recover from this.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Knux-Future
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Not really. Brand was never the same afterwards
OptimoPeach
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an ACL injury is like stubbing your toe, guys
Of course I've skated before, I've even tolerated a hockey game before. And velocity occurs with everything that moves, don't know why you're acting like its exclusive to hockey. And the funny thing about velocity in basketball vs hockey is that in hockey when you change direction or what ever, your pretty little ice skates will slide until your momentum is almost completely dissipated. In basketball/football/soccer whatever, you changing direction means you driving your foot into the ground/floor as hard as you have to at a single point, leaving the burden entirely on your legs to absorb momentum and the impact. It's especially taxing in basketball with these new super lightweight shoes with almost no cushioning and incredible traction to ensure that you get all that impact. If it makes you feel better, I'm sure Kobe could be ice skating in a months time after his surgery.
Now lets continue into you fellating the big strong hockey players...
ItWasMeantToBe19
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He was a lot more functional than the other guys who had the injury though. Going from being in the MVP discussion to being just a random big man was a pretty gigantic fall though.
victreeb3l
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NHL lol
hope kobe is able to recover from this. would be terrible way for him to go out.
hope kobe is able to recover from this. would be terrible way for him to go out.
Nique came back, but he wasn't at the end of his career. He only had like 9 seasons under his belt. Kobe has like 17 now.
Dastardly Jerks
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Ease up champ, no need for that.
Kobe is very important to your specific part of the globe. It makes it very hard for the rest of the world to understand when on the outside all we see is "marquee player of a major sport" and compare it to the same example happening to marquee players of other sports (in this case, I'm mentally personally comparing to rugby/AFL, hockey and even cricket superstars who have gotten achilles tendon injuries and come back successfully).
Grow up, mate.
Knux-Future
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Brand also spent a good part of the year second guessing every move he made....which resulted in him fucking up his shoulder.
He's probably the only exception. You are talking about it like its not a big deal when most players never recovered, Elton Brand included. Even Laron Profit tore it at a young age and never returned to the NBA.
I'd like to see him come back as a PG.
Who?Memo Okur gets forgotten even in injury discussion
Gucci Messiah
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EDIT: Wrong thread
NBA players lol
Err?
For someone who came in here with his chest out, it's shocking how quick you retreated to the high ground.
Buba Big Guns
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I realize a torn Achilles tendon is really bad...but a guy with the drive of Kobe will get past this injury. Career ending is pretty melodramatic at this point, not really surprising though with the status of the American sports media.
Also Erik Karlsson is a fucking beast. Thank God we didn't have to deal with this hyperbolic shit.
Also Erik Karlsson is a fucking beast. Thank God we didn't have to deal with this hyperbolic shit.
Goro Majima
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A 35 year old with a torn ACL is almost always "done" in most sports. I'm sure he'll run off somewhere and get as much deer antler spray, HGH, or whatever it takes to get back to the game but it would take a medical miracle for him to come back 100% for a sustained amount of time.
Dastardly Jerks
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There's a bit of difference between slinging some salt at professional athletes and acting vulgar to people directly on the internet.
This is an Achilles, not an ACL.
Dreams-Visions
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Nobody is going to ask for or expect 100% Kobe.
Ken Masters
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When he comes back its going to be sad to see him with no lift or explosiveness
Fenderputty
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Mate, champ lol. You came in here calling NBA players pussies and don't even understand the context of the OP. Kobe will go down as one of the greatest of all time and that era is coming to an end. Pull your head out of your ass and quit a ting like a jerkoff.
HalfBakedProphet
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Kobe's been playing for an eternity in sports years, its gonna catch up. Even then he can still play at a high level at 34. Its impressive, but sometimes its best to walk away.
Look at Nash. He can still play and has skill but he's dealing with a new injury every other week slowing him down. Its best to just hang it up at some point when you aren't completely broken physically.
Look at Nash. He can still play and has skill but he's dealing with a new injury every other week slowing him down. Its best to just hang it up at some point when you aren't completely broken physically.
Ken Masters
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Just makes the fact that Duncan at 36 being the best big in the NBA averaging almost 20/10 even more amazing
Well I'm just gonna call a spade a spade in such a domain, and you're just gonna have to ignore me or just see it for what it is.
Goro Majima
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I have football injuries on the brain I guess. I'm pretty sure ACLs are more common than torn achilles in the NFL anyway.
So in some ways, it's still worth noting that it's likely the end of an era.
Delicious Waffles
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That was my initial thought when seeing this as well.
I'm not really a basketball fan but Kobe has been around for most of my life. It would be weird to watch highlights and not see him around anymore. Plus, wasn't there a recent interview where he was contemplating retirement within a year or two?
Fenderputty
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Who wants a less than 100% Kobe? Even if he does recover, he won't be the same player. Especially when you consider his age.
Exactly.
Maddocks
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But Duncan has a coach who will rest him when he sees him tired or knows he needs him prime for the playoffs. Pringles being the super coach he is will tell kobe to run faster and harder after a week of playing the whole game. Kobe has been on zero rest. Playing all 48 minutes of the game. Disgusting.
Five pages in and people are arguing whether this deserves its own thread? Isn't that somewhat self-evident at this point?
I remember Isaiah going down with an Achilles when I was a kid. Sucks to see your favorite players go out with injury, but you gotta remember that with these hyper competitive guys, they usually won't stop until their body just breaks anyways.
Maybe we'll see Kobe try to buy a Canadian team now, too.
I remember Isaiah going down with an Achilles when I was a kid. Sucks to see your favorite players go out with injury, but you gotta remember that with these hyper competitive guys, they usually won't stop until their body just breaks anyways.
Maybe we'll see Kobe try to buy a Canadian team now, too.
Saved us from those racist Spaniards in 2008, so yes, he does.
and don't forget when he plowed through Rubio's ACL in an act of outstanding bravery. Damn those Spaniards.
I retract my previous statement about awarding Kobe the purple heart. Make it the Medal of Honor.
Dastardly Jerks
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Hopefully one day you'll go traveling the world, and you'll notice this thing where people outside of your country have different lingo to yours. Best prepare yourself for it now before you receive a rude shock, lest you go to the UK and get personally offended if somebody asks you for "a fag".
I must be the first person on NeoGAF to enter a topic, see the context and call it as they see it. Imagine that, a world where people are able to discuss perspectives, opinions and ideas on a global scale on the internet.
You've got a world of hardship ahead of you if you take this sort of thing personally.
Since there's no further relevant discussion, I'll leave it as this.
at his age and with that mileage on the clock he is going to find it very very difficult to make it back at any sort of equivalent level.
http://lowerextremityreview.com/article/return-to-football-after-achilles-tendon-rupture
"Only two-thirds of National Football League players ever come back, and those who do find their performance significantly affected."
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do the Lakers amnesty him and save themselve $50m in luxury tax?
http://lowerextremityreview.com/article/return-to-football-after-achilles-tendon-rupture
"Only two-thirds of National Football League players ever come back, and those who do find their performance significantly affected."
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do the Lakers amnesty him and save themselve $50m in luxury tax?
I knew you were lying when you said you weren't involving in the Vancouver riots. This post proves it!
Fenderputty
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If he's done, I hope he can coach. I know most greats don't have the mindset, but he looks like he enjoys it when he takes that responsibility du to light injuries.
IHaveCandy
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Shouldn't the Lakers amnesty Kobe and resign him a year later? He won't play anyways next year and he will still be payed. That would save them A LOT of luxury tax money.
Personal? I'm throwing salt at someone who came in here on some ignorant shit an started crying when it got thrown back at him.
Fenderputty
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This could have been summed up by simply saying, "it's the Internet, I'll act like an asshole if I want to."
You could have even saved yourself some typing.
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