Count Dookkake
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Copernicus said:degenigrator
Is this a new word?
Copernicus said:degenigrator
MWS Natural said:I was directly referencing being discriminated in a situation for being gay. Your sexuality has nothing to do with buying a car, house or getting a job. You cannot be discriminated against being gay unless you walk in announcing this. My name alone can bring discrimination against me without someone ever even meeting me. Do you include John Doe [Homosexual] on your CSV? That was my point, not that gays don't have their own struggles.
Exactly. All it takes is to speak in what someone perceives in a gay manner and you can be discriminated against. Want to help your partner choose a car, or look for a property with them? I guess that is flaunting your sexuality. Pretty poor statement from you MWS Natural, I expect better.Gaborn said:While this may be true, there was actually a case in Britain very recently where a married couple that owned a B&B denied a gay couple a room after they had registered online just because they were gay.. I'm relatively certain other gay people have been fired for simply mentioning they were involved with some people of the same sex *coughmilitarycough*. I'm not going to get into a pissing match and claim that gays have it worse, we do not, but we absolutely have issues in this area as well. It is also worth noting that even if you don't "announce" yourself, sometimes being perceived as an effeminate male (a characteristic that gay or straight people can have) is sufficient to trigger a response because of the perception of homosexuality.
Gaborn said:While this may be true, there was actually a case in Britain very recently where a married couple that owned a B&B denied a gay couple a room after they had registered online just because they were gay.. I'm relatively certain other gay people have been fired for simply mentioning they were involved with some people of the same sex *coughmilitarycough*. I'm not going to get into a pissing match and claim that gays have it worse, we do not, but we absolutely have issues in this area as well. It is also worth noting that even if you don't "announce" yourself, sometimes being perceived as an effeminate male (a characteristic that gay or straight people can have) is sufficient to trigger a response because of the perception of homosexuality.
Um, but don't you support people being allowed to practice exactly that type of discrimination?Gaborn said:While this may be true, there was actually a case in Britain very recently where a married couple that owned a B&B denied a gay couple a room after they had registered online just because they were gay.. I'm relatively certain other gay people have been fired for simply mentioning they were involved with some people of the same sex *coughmilitarycough*. I'm not going to get into a pissing match and claim that gays have it worse, we do not, but we absolutely have issues in this area as well. It is also worth noting that even if you don't "announce" yourself, sometimes being perceived as an effeminate male (a characteristic that gay or straight people can have) is sufficient to trigger a response because of the perception of homosexuality.
ZephyrFate said:Michael Jackson changed races, so it's not like you even have to stick to your race anymore.
adamsappel said:Um, but don't you support people being allowed to practice exactly that type of discrimination?
Glad you took it seriously.Londa said:there is a person on earth that really believes this? You can't change your race. lol
Maybe they're just against anal sex in their bedsGaborn said:While this may be true, there was actually a case in Britain very recently where a married couple that owned a B&B denied a gay couple a room after they had registered online just because they were gay.. I'm relatively certain other gay people have been fired for simply mentioning they were involved with some people of the same sex *coughmilitarycough*. I'm not going to get into a pissing match and claim that gays have it worse, we do not, but we absolutely have issues in this area as well. It is also worth noting that even if you don't "announce" yourself, sometimes being perceived as an effeminate male (a characteristic that gay or straight people can have) is sufficient to trigger a response because of the perception of homosexuality.
straight people have anal sex and not all gay people have anal sex.Jamesfrom818 said:Maybe they're just against anal sex in their beds
Better start banning straight people thenJamesfrom818 said:Maybe they're just against anal sex in their beds
Londa said:there is a person on earth that really believes this? You can't change your race. lol
There should be a questionnaire before reserving a room.btkadams said:straight people have anal sex and not all gay people have anal sex.
they should have that in public bathrooms too!Jamesfrom818 said:There should be a questionnaire before reserving a room.
Do you plan on having anal sex in our room? Y/N
ZephyrFate said:Glad you took it seriously.
and, legally, people have been able to all the time. Look up gracias al sacar someday.
Count Dookkake said:Never heard of "passing"?
A shame how little attention is paid to African American history.
huh? he said he was kidding about michael jackson changing his race. his post makes sense.Londa said:First of all, how was I to know you are joking? You showed no indication of kidding around. Also you are the type of poster who says stuff that no rational person would say out loud in the real world, so its kind of hard not to believe that you really meant it.
Dude, if that is the case, then why are gays born this way if they can change their sexuality by going to church?
Papers don't change who you are. I support people changing their race on paper to get jobs and to get a opportunity they couldn't get by being who they are. Because no one should be held down for their race.
Your whole post is not made for normal brains. You sat and said you were kidding then say you really wasn't because of gracias al sacar. Which one is it? You can't have it both ways.
btkadams said:huh? he said he was kidding about michael jackson changing his race. his post makes sense.
The fact that you took a post about Michael Jackson seriously shows that you really don't understand jokes and/or sarcasm.
But in terms of people actually changing their race in the eyes of the law, gracias al sacar is an example.
I'm pretty sure history has shown that church does not 'fix' sexuality nor does it change it. That's a completely different issue. Instinct vs. skin color.
Londa said:Dude, if that is the case, then why are gays born this way if they can change their sexuality by going to church?
Because you can make a jest, (as any reference to MJ changing his race is bound to be) and then make a factual statement afterward. This is not some zinger, it is just you being obtuse.Londa said:Guess you didn't see the part where he mentions people changing their race. Why point that out if he was really joking?
i saw the whole post. the second half doesn't have anything to do with michael jackson. why are you even arguing this?Londa said:Guess you didn't see the part where he mentions people changing their race. Why point that out if he was really joking?
Londa said:ever heard of race not being how you look and actually were you can from? Don't be shallow. This is why people that don't look the stereotype always are asked if they are mixed. Cause they can't be black with THAT HAIR!
ZephyrFate said:Michael Jackson changed races, so it's not like you even have to stick to your race anymore.
Dead Man said:Because you can make a jest, (as any reference to MJ changing his race is bound to be) and then make a factual statement afterward. This is not some zinger, it is just you being obtuse.
Count Dookkake said:I am sorry your ignorance is so embarassing to you. I just wanted to point out that throughout American history, plenty of black folks managed to hide their blackness from whites and even other blacks.
Londa said:Yet everyone non-white can bleach their skin like MJ and be white! Its so easy. Yet sexual preference is so hard.
Kinitari said:Would it be easier for you to go down on a girl, consistently, for the rest of your life (I am assuming you are straight) - or have a 1 time surgery?
I'm pretty sure he knows that. That's why he said you going down on a girl for the rest of your life as if it would be difficult.Londa said:I'm female and race isn't your appearance. BTW MJ had multiple surgeries.
Londa said:That isn't changing their race. That is being mixed with a appearance favoring white. You are the ignorant one. But its ok. I'm glad to teach you.
btkadams said:I'm pretty sure he knows that. That's why he said you going down on a girl for the rest of your life as if it would be difficult.
Londa said:I'm female and race isn't your appearance. BTW MJ had multiple surgeries.
Kinitari said:Regardless, I think it would be easier for me to change my appearance with some surgery than to not have sex with women anymore, and strictly blow dudes. I don't think I have the mouth or the... constitution for it. And most importantly, I am not gay. A gay person has probably nearly as much trouble with the thought of straight sex. You as a straight woman, I am assuming, would have a lot of trouble switching teams for the rest of your life.
You're... not a very smart person, are you?Londa said:Dude, if that is the case, then why are gays born this way if they can change their sexuality by going to church?
I know I may be ignorant here, but I thought you were born gay and it wasn a choice :\ Well I originally always figured it was a mixture of both, some ppl born gay some change their mind. But after being around gaf for so long I've gotten the idea that people are born gay and its not a choice, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that on several occasions at least.Kinitari said:Regardless, I think it would be easier for me to change my appearance with some surgery than to not have sex with women anymore, and strictly blow dudes. I don't think I have the mouth or the... constitution for it. And most importantly, I am not gay. A gay person has probably nearly as much trouble with the thought of straight sex. You as a straight woman, I am assuming, would have a lot of trouble switching teams for the rest of your life.
Dude, if that is the case, then why are gays born this way if they can change their sexuality by going to church?
Londa said:What does appearance have to do with changing your race? Depending on the person you can't really tell them what they can't or won't do with their body.
Yet everyone non-white can bleach their skin like MJ and be white! Its so easy. Yet sexual preference is so hard.
oneHeero said:I know I may be ignorant here, but I thought you were born gay and it wasn a choice :\ Well I originally always figured it was a mixture of both, some ppl born gay some change their mind. But after being around gaf for so long I've gotten the idea that people are born gay and its not a choice, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that on several occasions at least.
oneHeero said:I know I may be ignorant here, but I thought you were born gay and it wasn a choice :\ Well I originally always figured it was a mixture of both, some ppl born gay some change their mind. But after being around gaf for so long I've gotten the idea that people are born gay and its not a choice, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that on several occasions at least.
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Ok, gay gaf please clear this up for me. I swear I've read on this forum that your born gay and its not a choice (which i dont mean negatively).
Yet after birth there is variance.Londa said:They are saying they are born this way.
Kinitari said:I wasn't talking about changing race - you made a that implied that it would be harder for someone to change their appearance, like Michael Jackson, than it would be to change their sexuality.
Is the quote. I simply disagree, I think it would be harder for me, for example, to go gay for the rest of my life than to change how I look.
Sexuality is a complicated subject, let's just say that it's pretty much decided before you're out of the womb, but it's not just 'gay' or 'straight' - look up the kinsey scale of sexuality. Some people are mostly straight, or mostly gay. Regardless, vagina's scare some gay dudes as much as the idea of a penis anywhere near me scares me.
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I personally don't think anyone is born with a sexual preference in mind. It's life experiences which lead to the life you choose. I'm not going to sit here and argue the point with someone who is homosexual who strongly believes the opposite. No different from shitting on an individual's religion, race, or favorite super hero.
Londa said:You replied to a comment that was talking about race. Why say anything about changing your appearance if you were not addressing what the comment was saying. Which was, appearance is not race. Race is where you came from.
That is your opinion on what you find easier. It doesn't apply to all.
Nope. There are studies that show how hormone during pre-pregnancy in mother is one of the causes. There are some studies cited in that long index/ring finger thread if you're interested.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I personally don't think anyone is born with a sexual preference in mind. It's life experiences which lead to the life you choose.
Kinitari said:I just wanted to address your opinion that changing appearance was harder than changing sexuality. If you don't want to press the point, that's fine, I just completely disagree.
Londa said:They are saying they are born this way.
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I personally don't think anyone is born with a sexual preference in mind. It's life experiences which lead to the life you choose. I'm not going to sit here and argue the point with someone who is homosexual who strongly believes the opposite. No different from shitting on an individual's religion, race, or favorite super hero.
Wow, are you really saying that we're devaluing someone's race by saying sexuality is an immutable trait? Get the FUCK outta here.Londa said:You replied to a comment that was talking about race. Why say anything about changing your appearance if you were not addressing what the comment was saying. Which was, appearance is not race. Race is where you came from.
That is your opinion on what you find easier. It doesn't apply to all.
totally agree. It saddens me that a gay person would try to devalue someone's race as something you can change, while they continue to say its impossible for themselves to change their sexual preference.