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[NullPointer]

Just saw this over at IGN and thought it threadworthy considering how much people love them trophies.

(ign / twitter)

Some posters in the Ground Zeroes OT think there is more to the story. Or at the very least more details.

 

[Silky]

Weird...then again, are any budget priced retail titles out for PS4 that have platinums?

 

[vdlow]

Velocity Ultra is not a full-price game and has a Platinum Trophy, IIRC.

 

[Levito]

In 2001 we got Zone Of the Enders, now we don't even get a Platinum Trophy?



Gaming... Has changed.

 

[okayfrog]

Tell that to Ratchet and Clank: Into the Nexus.

EDIT: Though, maybe the rules have changed for PS4 titles.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Hmm I don't buy it either, it feels like there's more to the story.

 

[GrizzNKev]

What is the definition of full price?

 

[Hatchtag]

wat.
Cheaper digital games usually have them (Guacamelee, Hotline Miami).
Hell, non-full priced retail games have them (HD Collections have multiple ones!).
I don't buy his reasoning.

 

[Family Fry]

Sony have regulations for that?

 

[TMC]

Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time was not a full priced game and it had a platinum...Many others as well.

 

[Dead Prince]

i'm sure there's a workaround.

 

[erpg]

Guacamelee, 4 hours at 15$ is a full priced game. Has Platinum.
Ground Zeroes, 2 hours at 30 is an overpriced game. No Platinum.

 

[JayEH]

PSN games have plats and so do HD collections (like the MGS HD collection) so Sony's reasoning here doesn't make sense.

 

[Slashlen]

There must be a secret rule that the game must be at least 3 hours long.

 

[shwimpy]

Trine 2 has a platinum...

 

[Mesoian]

Tell that to Ratchet and Clank: Into the Nexus.

EDIT: Though, maybe the rules have changed for PS4 titles.

Right? Or Up Your Arsenal.

It'll be interesting to see Sony's response if Konami decides to lean into that one.

 

[Twin Tails]

no trophies for demos

 

[sjay1994]

Strider was 14.99 and it had a platinum trophy....

Come on Kojima

 

[BomberMouse]

There are DD less than 20 who have a PT. They just need to justify they have enough content.

I call BS on kojima's part.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

What is the definition of full price?

Selling a demo for $60 instead of $30.

 

[Kusagari]

There are multiple examples that prove otherwise.

Kojima is bullshitting.

 

[The Silver]

Sony agrees its a demo.

 

[hamchan]

$50 in Australia and not even a platinum trophy.

Also Wipeout HD, Resogun etc came out cheaper and had a plat, so that's BS.

 

[Prelude.]

Is it really tied to the price? It seems kinda weird.

 

[Savantcore]

I don't understand why this is such a talking point.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

 

[nckillthegrimace]

So that's clearly not true. What's the deal, Kojima?

 

[reptilescorpio]

A bunch of F2P and DD titles have a plat. This makes no sense.

Weird...then again, are any budget priced retail titles out for PS4 that have platinums?

Angry Birds is priced lower here

 

[Dead Prince]

Selling a demo for $60 instead of $30.

anarchy: rush hours. $8 with platinum.

 

[Chamber]

Sony agrees its a demo.

I was trying to think of a nice way to say this but yeah, perhaps so.

 

[Chuck]

That's pretty lame. The collections they put out have 1 per title so I'm pretty god of war one had six platinums. Or the Sly collection which was $40 had 3.

 

[Steel]

Why the hell does resogun have a platinum then?

 

[Carbonox]

Would it be wrong to see a trophy in The Phantom Pain that's based on you getting 100% in Ground Zeroes so at least your trophy hunting in Ground Zeroes is worth something at least? So it would read your game data and give you the trophy if you've completed Ground Zeroes completely.

Would make some people happy I guess...

 

[Alienous]

Sony have regulations for that?

They do regulate trophies. You can't, for instance, just give players every trophy upon opening the game. I explain it as best as I understand it below. I think Kojima is simplifying it:

It's a content assessment.

You have to have a game that can justify the larger set of trophies, content-wise. And Playstation have some regulations regarding what can be a trophy, and how many of each type of trophy you're allowed (by that I mean trophies for completion, different difficulties etc). If you can't reach their internal parameters, and seemingly if you aren't a Playstation exclusive, they deem the game a "smaller content game" which come with a smaller trophy set.

 

[funkystudent]

Well... what about all the other non full priced games that have them?

Oh right. They take longer then a hour to complete.

 

[Konosuke]

Smells like bull. Hotline Miami has it. Smart As has it. Sound Shapes too. Start the Party and Sports Champions have it.

 

[sjay1994]

Sony have regulations for that?

They have no regulation for not having a platinum based on price.

They do however have a regulation for giving a platinum when the game barely has any trophies.

Ground Zeroes only has 11 trophies.

 

[Mesoian]

I don't understand why this is such a talking point.

They want you to pay 40 dollars for a demo.

 

[Joeki11a]

Plat cost 9.99

 

[Salex_]

I don't understand why this is such a talking point.

Trophies/achievements are a big thing now for some reason. The number of people who would buy, not buy, or play a game they don't like because of trophies is increasing.

 

[jimi_dini]

Guacamelee, 4 hours at 15$ is a full priced game. Has Platinum.
Ground Zeroes, 2 hours at 30 is an overpriced game. No Platinum.

Someone mistranslated Kojima.

He actually said: No Platinum Trophy for Ground Zeroes, because not a full-length game.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah... Bullshit.


Guess I should have kept the "not a full game" knocking too, oh well.

 

[The Bookerman]

at 34$ canadian, no way I'm buying this demo. Rental it is.

 

[erawsd]

What? But theres a 100 hours of gameplay in there.

 

[hamchan]

If it's more about the amount of content in the game (ie not much) then that's funny.

 

[Alienous]

Smells like bull. Hotline Miami has it. Smart As has it. Sound Shapes too. Start the Party and Sports Champions have it.

And Resogun.

PlayStation console exclusive downloaded games seem to get separate treatment.

 

[Savantcore]

They want you to pay 40 dollars for a demo.

And if it had a Platinum trophy, they could get away with charging 60?

 

[Jrs3000]

Sony have regulations for that?

No trophies for demos policy I guess. Which makes since and is funny as it seems sony considers it that in way by their actions.

 

[Fox_Mulder]

ERRATA CORRIGE: because it's a demo.

 

[NullPointer]

What? But theres a 100 hours of gameplay in there.

OK I laughed way too loud at this. Oh man.