HollovVpo1nt
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Lol I can't even imagine what beeing an XBL Silver member on the nextbox will be like.
Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games
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Please look at this 5 minute commercial pause before your game boots! Why else would they mandate online connection if it´s not for shoving ads down your throat in every single screen and in the most intrusive way possible?
digoutyoursoul
Member
It will be similar to Uncharted 3 Free to Play but instead of gaming related ads it will branch out to toilet cleaner, soft drinks and perfume
Oof. This post says it all. Microsoft is going full-douche with this console.
I still refuse to believe Microsoft will do this. I thought maybe if Sony also did it, then Microsoft would follow along. No way they will try to compete with Sony with an online connection requirement.
I'm sure plenty of early casual consumers will buy whatever comes after the 360 and others will who are always online will buy it, but this will end up horrible in the long run.
I'm sure plenty of early casual consumers will buy whatever comes after the 360 and others will who are always online will buy it, but this will end up horrible in the long run.
Nailed it. I call bullshit on this too.
What if MS are actively encouraging this rumour? Then when they do the big reveal and say online isn't required, suddenly they are the nice guy of the console world.
My home is in far North Thailand and the internet rarely stays connected for more than a few hours each day.
If this rumour is somehow true, I'll just get a PS4 instead. I'm not a big Halo, PGR or Gears fan anyhow, so it's not such a big deal.
Oh god.. My heart sunk when I read that. I can imagine this happening. Maybe not before the game starts, but certainly during the mandatory initial install. Ugh..
I've got some experience dealing with peoples reaction to things that are always online and that tells me it ALWAYS reflects badly on the product, people never blame their internet connection or their router or any of the other conditions, they blame the thing telling them it can't work. Every time your internet goes down you'll curse your Xbox, not your ISP. You'll swear blind your wifi was working the whole time because your phone is still saying it's connected even though the reality is it was down just long enough for the xbox to notice and then it came back up. People will hate Xbox because of this requirement.
Want to go an make a cup of tea while the advert is on?
Tough, the camera can tell you've left the room so the advert will be paused until you get back.
Steiner_Zi
Member
Microsoft of 2013 suddenly makes Sony of 2006 seem like a charity company.
If MS changed the alleged 3 mins permissible downtime to, say, 4 hours things might be different!
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
People that claimed to be in the loop thinks its a great console. Such as the gamestop board members claiming to be excited for it this winter. Maybe full games sells better then used games and traded games perhaps?
It wont be true, i bet only the dev kits are always online for security.
You and Microsoft are like kindred spirits, it seems.
Holy shit is he actually serious? That's a troll, right?
I've tutored 4th graders that had better grasps on how to make analogies. Wow.
Acheteedo
Member
Logically one would think this, but MS have defied belief before with a hard drive-less 360, I couldn't believe it when they announced that. Also couldn't believe it when the Xbox 1 was broadband only, that's a very similar situation to this in some key respects.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I really can't see the gains in terms of functionality justifying the potential downsides; even if this sort of thing was done with the purest of intentions (i.e. the "always on" aspect really added to the experience).
That said...
The ONLY reason I can imagine they are doing this is if the whole console is sold on the same principle as a mobile phone; as in hardware is cheap/free and subsidized by the user being required to take out a service plan with a monthly fee.
This type of arrangement obviously requires an external "kill switch" should the client stop paying their regular fees, which is really what this sort of constantly monitored service does offer.
That said...
The ONLY reason I can imagine they are doing this is if the whole console is sold on the same principle as a mobile phone; as in hardware is cheap/free and subsidized by the user being required to take out a service plan with a monthly fee.
This type of arrangement obviously requires an external "kill switch" should the client stop paying their regular fees, which is really what this sort of constantly monitored service does offer.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
if Edge echoes what Kotaku says then it has some kinda weight to it sorry, Edge is Edge
Third parties love measures for their sake. Anti-consumer isn't their concern as long as the measures means more money for them.
nailbombxx
Member
They will claim any negativity will be the result of the vocal "minority".
I doubt there will be a silver option.
I am guessing the system will be subsidized with a subscription model by default if all these rumors are true.
MrNyarlathotep
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Every time someone posts this fucking picture they miss the point that the boycott worked and dedicated servers were added for the next game.
I would hope not, I'm not giving them my credit card to pay for it. It was a pain in the ass to get it off the 360 the one time I did have it on there. If that ends up being the case in definitely not getting the next box since I prefer to just buy prepaid cards.
Scofield94941
Member
Um my stuff is always online and connected to the internet when I sign into xbox live everytime I sign in for the past 8 years. I dont understrand the problem with this
If you get info on your Plus games, you'll see they have an expiration date. So even after you disconnect your PS3, it still knows when the games are supposed to expire.
I don't think it will be the only option, but I do think it will be the focus.
I can't think of any other way to do it.
This is even stupider then having the final consumer version as online only.
Need to fix some code bugs but the nets down?, oh tough, game delayed.
Metalmurphy
Member
They won't?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Convenience.
You install the game onto the hard drive and by activating it, you no longer need the disc. This would allow for multiple games to be installed and remove the need for disc swapping should you want to play a different game/should you be invited to play online in a different game by friends.
There are ways, it all depends on what they intend to do with the disc and how the licence transfer works. Will the disc become nothing more than a coaster after the transfer/installation, or can the licence be deactivated allowing for the game to be sold/traded.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I think people are overestimating how much this will impact anything.
People will have to learn the hard way that always-on sucks. But only for those people with shitty Internet which is not who Microsoft will make most of their money from
They will squeeze more out of people who already have good Internet to make up for the difference
People will have to learn the hard way that always-on sucks. But only for those people with shitty Internet which is not who Microsoft will make most of their money from
They will squeeze more out of people who already have good Internet to make up for the difference
Exactly. 25m people buy Cod every year and play the games online. I think MS are aiming for that audience. As let's face it that's where the money is.
AstroNut325
Member
Agreed. On all accounts.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
No sale if true.
I'll be just fine with my WiiU and PS4.
I'll be just fine with my WiiU and PS4.
You want to play a single player game and you can't play it because your internet connection is down or there's a server problem on MS's end. You really don't see a problem with this?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I hate restrictions on anything really, if I buy something I'd like to be able to use it whenever I want. Which is why I avoid digital purchases if I can. The worst thing is I don't think online always will curb anything. If pirates wanna pirate they will pirate, it might take longer and some extra work but I don't think it will make up for the loss of sales they'll get from people not wanting to deal with the system.
A lot of things go wrong, networks go down, routers break, trees fall etc. If my internet goes down at least I would like to be able to play games while waiting for it to come back up. It may not be a major occurrence but the fact that it can happen and they're brushing it off makes me feel uncomfortable.
Whatever though, it's still just a rumor right?
A lot of things go wrong, networks go down, routers break, trees fall etc. If my internet goes down at least I would like to be able to play games while waiting for it to come back up. It may not be a major occurrence but the fact that it can happen and they're brushing it off makes me feel uncomfortable.
Whatever though, it's still just a rumor right?
travisbickle
Member
Is that across all platforms? Going to tempt everyone to the 720 with drm?
digoutyoursoul
Member
Regarding the casual audience, I can just vision a newspaper or TV station reporting on a mother comforting her son holding a xbox
" No online is destroying my child "
" No online is destroying my child "
I'd say thier aim is that audience yea. Huge numbers buy multiplayer games every year, so it's not as stupid as Gaf thinks.
Yeah because banking on people to pay more is always a sound strategy? Would you say that people would get two jobs to be able to support 720?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Activision would be my 3rd choice behind EA and Ubisoft for publisher who most likely agreed with the always online idea.
Teletraan1
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Don't those people mostly just play COD and nothing else? Why go after those people? You would have gotten them anyway, they had to buy the game since it is online and these online passes could have cashed in on used sales so there is no win there. It is just excluding everyone else who doesn't agree with this practice. Key being the person who buys 10-15 games per year because they can go to your competitor who doesn't have these redic restrictions. MS had these people for the most part this generation. They dont understand why they were successful if they are willing to throw these people away or expect brand loyalty in the face of anti consumer practices. Retaining these customers can be difficult. Ask Sony. These same people were on PS2 and Jumped In.