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Talents

Banned
Being positive about top lane is like one of those death scenes in movies where someone is bleeding to death and you keep telling them IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT YOU GONNA MAKE IT YOU HEAR ME WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THIS, WE'RE ALL GOING HOME AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE YOUR FAMILY

I despise top lane, but it's the only other solo lane apart from mid, yet it's the least fun role apart from support. Seeing top being locked in for you is so painful.
 
Being positive about top lane is like one of those death scenes in movies where someone is bleeding to death and you keep telling them IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT YOU GONNA MAKE IT YOU HEAR ME WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THIS, WE'RE ALL GOING HOME AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE YOUR FAMILY

And then top feeds cho
 

pigeon

Banned
ehh, my ranking for best league designs is complicated but it probably includes:
thresh
ori
tf

Thresh's design is problematic just in that he's too perfect. Thresh is one of those perennial LCS champs because he can pretty much fit into any comp. He can pick, he can engage, he can disengage, he can chain CC, he gives a shield, he provides mobility to his team. What is he supposed to be bad at?

works for mid too

i think top is the only lane that softly whispering in their ear everything will be ok doesn't work

top laners too intense

It's because top laners are trained from birth not to show emotion.

Whenever you're sad or afraid you can't talk about it. Just go off by yourself and splitpush. Just keep splitpushing til you feel better.

It's a culture of toxic toplanery.
 
I love teasing you guys because I just get to say things without actually giving information

first response of "Ao Shin" is exactly what I wanted :p

Maybe those capitalised letters are a total red herring. Maybe I'm in the mood for that after Firewatch and there's a DEEPER MEANING
 

kenbo

Member
Wednesday is going to be fun. Not only because I have to stay up for 22 hours for work and my flight but also for something else... reAlly intereSting
I would've been happier not knowing thanks. Argh.

75% win rate on Shen top/jg right now. See if I can get that closer to 80% and then I might actually play some ranked.
Man I think I just suck at shen. I miss his E in lane, I stack his w with the taunt, I w when they're not auto attacking me.

I lost to a yi as shen. Think about that.
 

Newt

Member
I guess today I'll be nice to Zky for once. Newt fanart style.
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Type2

Member
Silver is actually kind of fun. It's feels like going to community college to pad your GPA.
3-7 placements a blessing in disguise.
 

pigeon

Banned
Man I think I just suck at shen. I miss his E in lane, I stack his w with the taunt, I w when they're not auto attacking me.

I lost to a yi as shen. Think about that.

I am pretty low elo but I think Shen is just pretty hard. Top lane is full of lane bullies and hyper carries and Shen is neither, just a plain old tank with global pressure. His new kit also has a lot of skill cap -- using W effectively is tricky.

I had a lot of trouble laning with Shen at first and the big thing I did to improve was to use E and W way less. Q is Shen's trading tool and helps him last-hit as well so just using it all the time and walking up to auto your opponent when possible is fine. Then you have E and W to respond to whatever they do instead of trying to use them proactively. Shen suffers from the same pattern as Renekton in that if you do a full combo -- E through them, Q for the trade, W to protect yourself -- suddenly all your defensive tools are on cooldown for 10 seconds, including your shield since you need to use an ability to activate it. But unlike Renek he can't chunk you to half health in one combo, so a lot of the time it's better just to do the minimum unless you think you can get the kill.

When using E, keep in mind that it's variable-length so Shen will dash only to your cursor if it's closer to him than the max dash length. If you put your cursor on your opponent and hit E, and they are moving away from you, you are guaranteed to miss.

Shen also has terrible waveclear, obviously, so you will probably spend a bunch of time pushed under turret. That is okay because it's pretty hard to dive Shen since he can taunt you under turret. But I recommend doing some last-hitting practice and remembering how last hitting under towers works -- two turret shots plus an auto for a melee minion, one turret shot plus about 1.2 autos for a ranged minion (so a Q auto will suffice), about four turret shots and an auto for cannons, and watch how your minions are dpsing as well.

It's also tough as Shen because, as Zky has noted before, other champs get laning pressure at 6 and you don't. You get global pressure instead, which doesn't help you with your matchup. Everybody else gets presents at level 6 -- Shen gets responsibilities. To win the game you need to use your ult both effectively and constantly. You want to ult into a close fight or heavy trade, turn it into a kill fast, and then be proactive in finding an objective to grab afterwards. Ideally while your opponent is backed so you don't lose your turret right away.

It's bad to ult somebody who won't benefit from the shield but it's worse to ult somebody who dies before you get there. It's also bad to ult in somewhere and then not actually have anything to do. When I'm in top lane I tend to splitpush a bit and use the ult for offensive pressure and TP for map positioning.

Shen has a lot of weaknesses -- his AoE CC is pretty poor, he is not great at pushing turrets or sieging, and he lacks stickiness to secure kills. In exchange he gets a lot of damage for a tank and tons of mobility and global pressure, plus a very powerful teamfight ability with W.
 

faridmon

Member
After all the wins yesterday (5 wins out of 5), tonight have been awful with only 2 wins out of 7.

Climbing out of Bronze VI is getting harder and harder.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
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idk what this comic means but graves' face is funny

Wednesday is going to be fun. Not only because I have to stay up for 22 hours for work and my flight but also for something else... reAlly intereSting
I love teasing you guys because I just get to say things without actually giving information

first response of "Ao Shin" is exactly what I wanted :p

Maybe those capitalised letters are a total red herring. Maybe I'm in the mood for that after Firewatch and there's a DEEPER MEANING
ehh i like being hype and shit like the next person but i'd rather not bother if it's just smoke

if it's not costy trolling it'll prolly just be another adc since rito seems to have the hots for adcs but i'm all burned out

tbh u should be fired for this



Thresh's design is problematic just in that he's too perfect. Thresh is one of those perennial LCS champs because he can pretty much fit into any comp. He can pick, he can engage, he can disengage, he can chain CC, he gives a shield, he provides mobility to his team. What is he supposed to be bad at?
he doesn't really excel at any of those things, the only thing he's best in class at is the lantern and he's just really strong in the right hands cos he does a fair bit of everything rather than tunneling on just one thing.

also i'd add braum to the list of best designs in league, i don't like playing him much but his design is really clean and cohesive

It's because top laners are trained from birth not to show emotion.

Whenever you're sad or afraid you can't talk about it. Just go off by yourself and splitpush. Just keep splitpushing til you feel better.

It's a culture of toxic toplanery.
the only emotion top laners know is rage

I guess today I'll be nice to Zky for once. Newt fanart style.

i actually saw this one a while ago but knowing the tendencies of certain lolgaffers i didn't wanna promote ppl buying dmg items on sona
 
the only emotion top laners know is rage

I have to agree.

They either do well and not talk or they feed and rage.

Still remember that flaming Garen screaming for ganks at level 2-3 cause he was against Teemo. After giving up first blood he raged and abandoned his lane cause the Mid laner or jg wouldn't come to his rescue. Game was a wash ...

I know Teemo is seen as a Garen counter but if you know this and don't address it in champ select then IDK what to say to you. Coulda asked to swap lanes but people don't do that for w/e reason.

Every time I play top I feel like I completely forget there are other people in this game for spans of time ... until someone ganks top :/
 

Hard

Banned
top lane = best lane

It's a game of matchups and building small advantages

the lanes over if you die once, so it's really intense

junglers = invisible

adc = whiner

support = lol

mid = toxic
 

garath

Member
Damn afkers. Type2 and I were having a good game, our midlaner was super strong and then he just goes afk. Teammate said he had to go do his taxes. His mom said so.

-_-

Fortunately we rolled the next one. Silver is kinda fun in some ways. The opposing bot lane was so bad and scared almost all game.

Still getting +25 lp and losing 15. I'll get back to gold in short order if I manage to get jungle or a good support a few more times.
 

JulianImp

Member
the only emotion top laners know is rage

Yes.

Just played another round of jungle Skarner, and Shaco crapped on me with an invade while I was trying to kill red at level 2. Then the enemy team kept getting some kills but didn't manage to take any objectives. I die four times with only an assist to show for it (ulting someone back into GP's cannon barrage). Slowly but surely, we began to get our act together and capture objectives, we lose the first baron due to me forgetting I even have smite, but we eventually take our fifth dragon and win. The match was 52 minutes long and we all had full build, meaning I had enough HP to tank really well, slows and movement speed to stick to opponents and the attack stats to be a decent threat. I feel he's certainly more fun to use than Naut since I "do more" while hitting stuff, even if it's just spamming Q every two or so seconds.

Meanwhile, our top GP was all whiny at Trist, but once the game was over he apologized and said he was on tilt due to the overly long game.

Man, how I love Skarner's ult when people aren't wise enough to pack QSS or Mikaeus'... Walking in and supressing carries while the rest of my team goes to town on them is really satisfying, and ulting badly positioned enemies into tower range never gets old.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
finally had a game where elise started to click - was able to pull off her combos and use rappel really well a few times
 

zkylon

zkylewd
ew, TF? A passive and an E with no interaction, summoner spell for an ultimate, point and click as his bread-and-butter ability.

he's a really high skillcap champion with clear exploitable weaknesses as well as unique strengths that involve teamplay and personal skill, he has moments of strength that are telegraphed and cooldowns that keep him in check and he's also thematically strong with abilities that tie to his character

he's one of the game's best designs

he could probably have another e but i don't think his e is too bad
 

Blizzard

Banned
I feel like I only play malphite mid when I have given up playing mains and want the other team to suffer.

When they pick zed mid, an AD top, and an AD jungler, for instance. It was still hard since I was getting shredded by a Tristana, but we won and I had 500+ armor.
 
Top laners- Least toxic players on their teams

Junglers- Young Fap Kings

Mids- meh

AD- I mean, marksmen- Mayors of Rage City

Supports- Boxes of assorted chocolates because you never know what you'll get
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
he's a really high skillcap champion with clear exploitable weaknesses as well as unique strengths that involve teamplay and personal skill, he has moments of strength that are telegraphed and cooldowns that keep him in check and he's also thematically strong with abilities that tie to his character

he's one of the game's best designs

he could probably have another e but i don't think his e is too bad
I think you're absolutely out of it...
 
Got paired with a guy in a heavy streak of loses because he just simply run into the enemy and feeds them because he wants to be in bronze V.

Why on earth this guy doesnt get banned or something
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
when you come back from a 14k gold deficit because you win that one team fight and your team listens when you say you can push through their base and end before the respawn timers are up :')
 

Talents

Banned
Got paired with a guy in a heavy streak of loses because he just simply run into the enemy and feeds them because he wants to be in bronze V.

Why on earth this guy doesnt get banned or something

Yeah I don't get how Riot doesn't ban some people. Like that Pornstar Zilean guy a while back who constantly trolled Gross Gores games by going disco nunu and shit. He did it for months and months and didn't get banned.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Yeah I don't get how Riot doesn't ban some people. Like that Pornstar Zilean guy a while back who constantly trolled Gross Gores games by going disco nunu and shit. He did it for months and months and didn't get banned.

what's a disco nunu and why is it bad
 
It's official, I have to learn a counter to Galio.

That bull shit champion stumped all over my Diana once (cause I didn't know what he could do. Shield hat heals you when it's hit? wtf?) and I faced him again tonight with the only other mid I know (Ahri) and that was a bore just I had to spam Q. Apparently he's an "AP Tank" so I would need an AD Mid.

Time to start Operation Mid Vi next time I see him? (I have played her in Customs for practice and I see why everyone uses her for JG. Her kit relies a LOT on getting her to level 3. Before that you're playing with an arm tied behind your back so maybe that's a terrible idea ... but Imma try it some day).

Of maybe Wukong?
 

Bacon

Member
It's official, I have to learn a counter to Galio.

That bull shit champion stumped all over my Diana once (cause I didn't know what he could do. Shield hat heals you when it's hit? wtf?) and I faced him again tonight with the only other mid I know (Ahri) and that was a bore just I had to spam Q. Apparently he's an "AP Tank" so I would need an AD Mid.

Time to start Operation Mid Vi next time I see him? (I have played her in Customs for practice and I see why everyone uses her for JG. Her kit relies a LOT on getting her to level 3. Before that you're playing with an arm tied behind your back so maybe that's a terrible idea ... but Imma try it some day).

Of maybe Wukong?

How often do you play aginst Galio? I feel like I haven't seen him played in like months lol

Also vi mid sounds terrible
 
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