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BreezyLimbo
Banned
Didn't copy/paste it, and some of the stuff I put in the survey box related to the way communities react to dissenting opinions, so it would defeat the point of sharing it with an audience of that regard.
And unlike most of the tripe I post here, it was a well-constructed piece, probably one of my best regarding League, that I've written.
PhillipCostigan
Member
yeah, if you get a survey they'll aggregate and look at data.
I hope you put it as well as you say Breezy and weren't unnecessarily mean.
I hope you put it as well as you say Breezy and weren't unnecessarily mean.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Nah, it was the most sincere, from the heart thing I've written about League in months. I really do want to come back to League, but it's a combination of factors ranging from balance, community, and the impression Riot gives towards that balance and community, that is stopping me from coming back.
SenorArdilla
Member
PhillipCostigan
Member
care to PM the gist of it to me? It's directly of interest to me.
MercurialTurnip
Member
Hey, any good general tips for climbing through ranked? Just been demoted for the first time to bronze 2.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I think people would generally say:
1.) play what you're good at and only those champs
2.) play the strongest champs you can (meta)
3.) remember the game is an objective-based game. you only need whatever items you need to get the objectives. you don't need to be 6-slotted to end games. lower skill games are plagued by people who don't understand that they have an item advantage or otherwise let the enemy farm too many items and get back into a game.
4.) ward. doesn't matter what your role is; you can buy a pink and use your trinket.
5.) rotate. timely ganks can turn into fast objectives or relieve pressure on other lanes.
6.) win your lane. don't be the weak link. protect yourself with wards, get your cs and kill the enemy should the opportunity present.
Peanut Butter
Member
Is the champion you came up with Lux's evil, exiled twin sister, Xul?
Always be doing something useful. Pushing out a wave counts (starting a threat to take an objective). Sieging is NOT useful unless you're getting damage on the turret/enemy champs with each wave. Even then it's often a push.
Don't listen to all the people saying "win your lane." Winning your lane is nice but going even or losing a little is much better than trying really hard to win the lane and losing it instead. Your goal should be learning what you are capable of and then doing the stuff you're capable of right every time.
Don't counterpick your opponent unless you can counterpick them with a champion you actually play a lot.
Don't do baron if the opponents are all alive.
Don't fight if your team isn't there.
Don't stand in front unless it's your job to stand in front.
Ward your flank.
Don't listen to all the people saying "win your lane." Winning your lane is nice but going even or losing a little is much better than trying really hard to win the lane and losing it instead. Your goal should be learning what you are capable of and then doing the stuff you're capable of right every time.
Don't counterpick your opponent unless you can counterpick them with a champion you actually play a lot.
Don't do baron if the opponents are all alive.
Don't fight if your team isn't there.
Don't stand in front unless it's your job to stand in front.
Ward your flank.
NihonTiger90
Member
Pigeon, please teach my Bronze teammates these things. They do none of them and I am tired of watching Sona 1v2 Nasus and Udyr in the top lane or Jinx standing at the front trying to poke the enemy Leona.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
"There is no Dana, only Xul"
fuck that champ
Wise advice.
Winning my lane is a non-starter as a Croc player tho
Peanut Butter
Member
whoopsie!
Dreams-Visions
Member
Actually he should very much listen to those people saying "win your lane", as it's the healthiest mindset to go in with. You seem to conflate "winning" your lane with killing the lane opponent and only that...so some nuance is in order. Simply slowing the enemy ability to farm, outfarming them, forcing to use critical summoners like teleport when they don't want to, taking their tower, drawing jungler attention to your lane (and thus away from ally lanes/jungle) or denying a superior early laner kills on you also count as "winning" as I define it. Eg if you're mid Kass and survive all the way up to your RoA against a Yasuo or Zed, you fuckin WON. And so to that end it's important that you define your measurements of success are against your lane opponent(s) for the first 15 minutes and accomplish them. Like I said, as don't be the burden on the team. Understand what it means for you to win (that is succeed in your goals) your lane while doing what you can to slow the enemy from accomplishing theirs.
Indeed breaking even is often times winning the lane for many champs (ie malphite), so "winning the lane" tends to be defined differently for different lane comps. Some matchups are bad enough that simply surviving with minimal feeding is the goal. HOWEVER, playing completely passively (ie approaching every lane as a "farm lane") doesn't teach anyone much of anything about how to dominate a lane properly with a given champ matchup. You have to take calculated risks and fail to understand where the limits are. If you really want to move up, you need to be capable of dominating a lane on a fairly regular basis.
As they say, succeed big or fail spectacularly. And learn the lessons along the way.
Oh and speaking of lessons:
7) Make sure you're familiar with the skills and cooldowns of lane opponents. For example, if Blitz misses his grab, you have about 17 seconds to attack his carry freely. Use it. Fiora's Riposte has like a 20 second cooldown or some such. If you can bait it out, you can put a lot of damage on her if you have short cooldowns of your own and enough damage to make it count. If you don't know what the guy across the lane from you does or how he/she works, open up a lolking tab and find out.
MercurialTurnip
Member
just won with mundo and never left top lane until I was 7 kills up, this works pretty well lmao
I mean, nobody in Bronze does these things consistently, that's why they're in Bronze! Or if they do these things well they make other basic gameplay mistakes. For example, I have a lot of trouble losing my lane gracefully and I definitely have a tendency to pick bad fights that I need to guard against. And one of the reasons I play top lane is that I hate ADC positioning requirements.
Honestly the best advice I can probably give, aside from thinking about pushing out waves more, is that after every game, win or lose, you should sit down and identify as many things as you can that you personally did wrong. This helps you improve and also helps keep the focus on the stuff you personally can do better in order to win the game.
I mean, if your definition of "win the lane" is "identify what you're capable of and do it correctly," then sure, obviously we agree. I think that's a little nonstandard!
I have observed a lot of people worry so much about winning the lane that they lose it, so that's the mindset I was trying to prevent.
SenorArdilla
Member
So basically any champ with good base damage can build tank & Titanic and stomp top lane?
now that i think about it, it'd be a really short patch cycle if 6.5 is next week
they might do a second pass since some of these reverts are on experimental crap, but if that were the case then ao shin would be like forever away
i just want zed to be fixed already, i don't really care about new champions or lore or whatever
they might do a second pass since some of these reverts are on experimental crap, but if that were the case then ao shin would be like forever away
i just want zed to be fixed already, i don't really care about new champions or lore or whatever
Peanut Butter
Member
But Zed is such a FUN champion to play against. How could you ever want him fixed.
PhillipCostigan
Member
it would be the usual 2 week cycle.
has it always been two weeks?
at least in my head i'm pretty sure it was three weeks in season 5 at least
zed is a champion balanced around an item that is useless right now
rito got their wish and ruined the item, now balance the champion appropriately
it makes me hate midlane to play it in this state
at least in my head i'm pretty sure it was three weeks in season 5 at least
no sarcasm or joke here
zed is a champion balanced around an item that is useless right now
rito got their wish and ruined the item, now balance the champion appropriately
it makes me hate midlane to play it in this state
Orochinagis
Member
What happened to Zed?
NihonTiger90
Member
I just gave up on a game where my team fought the entire time with each other, Swain died to Yasuo 3 times in the first 5 minutes and nobody warded anything of value.
Black-Wind
Member
This was a strange but fun match.
I really don't know how the stars aligned for this one.
I was VS Top Poppy, Ahri was vs mid Vik. Everything else was just so random
The first time I died it was because i did a tower dive to kill Poppy ... but she didn't attack back so she didn't get any credit for it. Think that helped me snowball that lane. Also, decided to build DMG first cause I was ahead. Turned out to be a good buy.
I really don't know how the stars aligned for this one.
I was VS Top Poppy, Ahri was vs mid Vik. Everything else was just so random
The first time I died it was because i did a tower dive to kill Poppy ... but she didn't attack back so she didn't get any credit for it. Think that helped me snowball that lane. Also, decided to build DMG first cause I was ahead. Turned out to be a good buy.
AzureSkies
Member
my stupid idiot friend made the greatest
chogath build
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-l...-attack-speed-cho-build-the-fury-burns-454308
worst
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-l...-attack-speed-cho-build-the-fury-burns-454308
Nah. Before Dynamic Queue, my queue times in plat1-d3 last season were only 3-10minutes.
Now, it's almost always 10+minutes for solo queue. Gets even longer in duo/trio queue.
we seen some stuff in those queue times man
not even support secondary saves some of them
Black-Wind
Member
Playing Garen really makes me wanna buy Gnar.
Not being restricted by Mana really seems to bring a new element of fun to the table. I know that feeling from Shyvana but her whole damn kit revolves around AA and no one uses mana for those :/
Not being restricted by Mana really seems to bring a new element of fun to the table. I know that feeling from Shyvana but her whole damn kit revolves around AA and no one uses mana for those :/
just found out about that doto 2 tournament fiasco
i find it kinda funny that there's a literal 17 page document drama for that game too
it's interesting how extremely different things can be between valve and rito in just communication
i find it kinda funny that there's a literal 17 page document drama for that game too
it's interesting how extremely different things can be between valve and rito in just communication
Hydrophobic
Member
TF ADC. God help me this will either be really good or really bad, there is no middle ground.
Re: The Shanghai Major,
That has just been a shitshow. Things are supposedly getting better, but I haven't been watching the actual matches a whole lot.
Re: The Shanghai Major,
That has just been a shitshow. Things are supposedly getting better, but I haven't been watching the actual matches a whole lot.
NihonTiger90
Member
Second game of the day went so much better. I FINALLY OVERCAME MY TEAMMATES' MISTAKES
dat malphite tho
Ghost is Bad
Banned
Closing out is hard to do in low elo.
Also Sivir is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo annoying when trying to siege and end games. That QW combo just auto clears waves so she can stall out until 40 minutes when her team out-scales.
NihonTiger90
Member
He played OK but he was stubborn as all hell. Dude wanted to split push all game so we had a ton of 4v5 teamfights.